6 noob questions

[jthawne]

Hi everyone, new here and new to the hobby. A friend of a friend recommended I start with Eccie. I have a few questions I was hoping someone could answer for me.

1- Is there a way to identify which girls are more "noob friendly" than others? I'm extremely inexperienced (think of a typical nerd who likes doing math problems for fun, that's me). Will they guide you through it like a "real girl" or do they expect you to just do whatever you want and then disappear?

2- I noticed some girls list age requirements (such as "prefer men over 40"). I'm 25. Will this prevent a lot of girls on here from wanting to go out with me because they think I'll be immature/unprofessional or something?

3- Since I have not seen any girls, how would I "verify" myself? I have no references. I also work for myself (trade currencies online) so no employment info, so I'm not sure how this would work. I do have an office building so would that work, insofar as she could come for a chat in the conference room to see that I'm a real person? I also have a pretty nice car (~$150k) so would that be enough to show that I'm not LE? (seems counterintuitive to expect that they would waste so much money just to bust 1 or 2 girls)

4- My friend asked how you know that LE/scammers aren't just making fake accounts and reviewing themselves to appear legitimate. I thought this was unlikely because they'd have to spread out the fake reviews over at least a few months to look real, and then all of that work would be wasted after 1 person comes on and reports them. So 6 months of work for 1 bust would be idiotic. Am I correct, or is there some truth to what he suggested?

5- Do girls prefer attractive guys? I don't look like Shrek or anything but I don't look like Brad Pitt either. I also have eczema/acne, I don't know if girls find that unattractive.

6- Are you supposed to wear a suit or something when you meet a girl? Or would I just show up in what I usually wear around the house (sweats and a batman t-shirt or something)?

Thanks in advance. btw I live in Houston
- Jordan

[Brot]

You should take in for a moment that this is an illegal activity and if you have weighed out the risks and consequences.

Eccie: search newbies, search burner phones and then read.

P411: get an account

Do not concern yourself to much about what the providers want beyond showing up; on time, clean, respectful and with the donation. Beyond that make it about what you want.

Good luck but remember this is a road once traveled you can never go back.

[FrontRunner]

Originally Posted by jthawne

1- Is there a way to identify which girls are more "noob friendly" than others?

There is a list of Houston newbie-friendly providers in this thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1366691

[FrontRunner]

Originally Posted by jthawne

3- Since I have not seen any girls, how would I "verify" myself? I have no references.

The newbie-friendly girls on that list (many of them) will indicate what personal info they want from you to do screening. As the other poster said, though, getting a p411 account and letting them screen you will go a long way and lessen the need for you to provide personal info to providers.

[pyramider]

Holy Tebow ... is that pesky Search tab broken, again.

jthawn, please use the Search tab for your newbie questions. You will find all of your newbie questions there, and many of real lives, too. Do your due diligence in this, or any other, hobby. Or live with the consequences ... your choice.

[Guest021817-2]

Wait!!!!!!!

There is a search fiumction for hookers?

No friggin way!!!!

[Guest021817-2]

I am making new words.... I am loud and proud

[RafaelH]

P411 is your ticket, for the reasons stated.

Regarding question 1, tell the lady she is your first experience in the hobby and that you are nervous. She'll guide you through the session. I'd recommend an older provider (mid '30s and up).

Regarding question 2, you need to know how to act like a gentleman and treat a woman with respect. Ladies tell me this is the number one reason why they don't see younger men.

[Fancyinheels]

Let me be the first provider to welcome you in this thread with a big Irish kiss! (Irish kisses make French kisses green with envy, ya know.)

Good advice here, so far. Now, my answers:

1. Most providers will indicate in their ads, Showcases, and sometimes even signature lines if they are newbie-friendly, and it doesn't hurt to PM them and ask. Yes, like Rafael said, tell them you are just entering the Hobby and they will be patient and gentle -- unless you don't want them to be.

2. Alas, you had better check age requirements. Sadly, in the experience of many ladies, younger guys tend to be undependable and unpredictable (more no shows, a tendency to overstay); have less disposable income (they haggle, or expect a lady who doesn't offer less expensive quickie sessions to make an "exception" for them); often treat companions as "objects" (don't call providers "whores," please, and don't take the attitude that since you paid for it, you can do what you want with it); and generally behave in a less mature (boyishly thoughtless) manner. Again, Rafael (don't know him but would like to ) has made a wise comment about being a respectful gentleman, always. Personally, since I am an aged-like-fine-whiskey lass, I prefer gents who aren't young enough to have sprung from my loins, can talk about subjects I am culturally familiar with, and have realistic expectations of an older woman's body and energy level.

3. Forget the car as proof of anything other than you can drive. With no references, you'll have to provide concrete info that can be discreetly researched online, such as full name, city of residence, phone, email, and reiterate your age. Some ladies take employment info, and even self-employment can be verified. I have gone to gents' offices, even have an option on my website for a meet & greet, but I'm a rarity. Do your diligence first and make sure that the provider is someone reputable who you want to trust with all that data. P411 is an excellent idea, but some ladies will still be reluctant to see you with no prior Okays. Be willing to work with your first companion to get that important vouch, but don't take any chances or do anything that makes you uncomfortable.

4. Goes back to doing the research. Stick with ladies who are positively reviewed by multiple gentlemen who are also well-known on ECCIE. Look at the ladies' histories; how long have they been members, do they post frequently (and not just ads), do they have websites? Google their phone numbers and see what pops up. You might be surprised.

5. ALL men are attractive in their own way. (I'm not just talking about their wallets.) The ladies who do this happily and with longevity are looking past shallow physical imperfections and handicaps and really want you to have a good time, because you deserve it! There is always something fun to be done. The one static that you can't escape? Be clean, lickably so.

6. Dress appropriate to the environment. Coming to my apartment, for instance, sweats and a Batman tee are perfect, especially if I can wear my Iron Man vs. Hulk tank top - and nothing else. Again, just be freshly bathed in clean clothing that won't draw attention. (Save the Bozo costume for the clown convention.)

All other questions from newbies may be forwarded to DEAR FANCY, tart originator and administratrix of the aforementioned Houston Newbie-Friendly Provider List, c/o this establishment. Or, you can read the Education tab on my website, which is pretty encyclopedic.

[pyramider]

Oh what do you know?

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Oh what do you know?

Just a few fellows in the Biblical way.

[samantha thom]

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Let me be the first provider to welcome you in this thread with a big Irish kiss! (Irish kisses make French kisses green with envy, ya know.)

Good advice here, so far. Now, my answers:

1. Most providers will indicate in their ads, Showcases, and sometimes even signature lines if they are newbie-friendly, and it doesn't hurt to PM them and ask. Yes, like Rafael said, tell them you are just entering the Hobby and they will be patient and gentle -- unless you don't want them to be.

2. Alas, you had better check age requirements. Sadly, in the experience of many ladies, younger guys tend to be undependable and unpredictable (more no shows, a tendency to overstay); have less disposable income (they haggle, or expect a lady who doesn't offer less expensive quickie sessions to make an "exception" for them); often treat companions as "objects" (don't call providers "whores," please, and don't take the attitude that since you paid for it, you can do what you want with it); and generally behave in a less mature (boyishly thoughtless) manner. Again, Rafael (don't know him but would like to ) has made a wise comment about being a respectful gentleman, always. Personally, since I am an aged-like-fine-whiskey lass, I prefer gents who aren't young enough to have sprung from my loins, can talk about subjects I am culturally familiar with, and have realistic expectations of an older woman's body and energy level.

3. Forget the car as proof of anything other than you can drive. With no references, you'll have to provide concrete info that can be discreetly researched online, such as full name, city of residence, phone, email, and reiterate your age. Some ladies take employment info, and even self-employment can be verified. I have gone to gents' offices, even have an option on my website for a meet & greet, but I'm a rarity. Do your diligence first and make sure that the provider is someone reputable who you want to trust with all that data. P411 is an excellent idea, but some ladies will still be reluctant to see you with no prior Okays. Be willing to work with your first companion to get that important vouch, but don't take any chances or do anything that makes you uncomfortable.

4. Goes back to doing the research. Stick with ladies who are positively reviewed by multiple gentlemen who are also well-known on ECCIE. Look at the ladies' histories; how long have they been members, do they post frequently (and not just ads), do they have websites? Google their phone numbers and see what pops up. You might be surprised.

5. ALL men are attractive in their own way. (I'm not just talking about their wallets.) The ladies who do this happily and with longevity are looking past shallow physical imperfections and handicaps and really want you to have a good time, because you deserve it! There is always something fun to be done. The one static that you can't escape? Be clean, lickably so.

6. Dress appropriate to the environment. Coming to my apartment, for instance, sweats and a Batman tee are perfect, especially if I can wear my Iron Man vs. Hulk tank top - and nothing else. Again, just be freshly bathed in clean clothing that won't draw attention. (Save the Bozo costume for the clown convention.)

All other questions from newbies may be forwarded to DEAR FANCY, tart originator and administratrix of the aforementioned Houston Newbie-Friendly Provider List, c/o this establishment. Or, you can read the Education tab on my website, which is pretty encyclopedic.

THIS IS AN AWESOME RESPONSE!!! :-)

[jwood]

Find another hobby till your at least 35. Try a dating site. As previously stated once you get into this it's hard to get out.

[johnjon44]

Originally Posted by jwood

Find another hobby till your at least 35. Try a dating site. As previously stated once you get into this it's hard to get out.

Unless your BROKE

[FrontRunner]

Originally Posted by johnjon44

Unless your BROKE