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08-11-2017, 03:27 PM
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Why should this be a sticky? So the whores can move to different hotels and the list can be changed to those hotels next year? LE goes where the whores are...
You fuck tricks for money, you run the risk of getting busted for illegal activity...maybe that should be the sticky...
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True. However, such warnings benefit gentlemen, who are ALSO at risk. I didn't see anything in the article specifying that only providers were arrested. (And interestingly, it's fellows who have suggested stickyhood. I just typed a list for quick reference.)
Things continually change, so ANY alert will eventually outlive its usefulness. Does that mean we shouldn't bother? New info can always be posted, and evolving content is par for the coarse on all boards to attract additional members and income, isn't it? Yes, take it for granted that as an adult recreational site, we attract LE attention, as well.
A thorny nudge that the Hobby isn't all roses might keep some on their toes after relaxing their guard. Seems like something the Escort Client Community Information Exchange might consider topical.
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08-11-2017, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fancyinheels
Things continually change, so ANY alert will eventually outlive its usefulness. Does that mean we shouldn't bother?
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Shouldn't bother making it a sticky? Yes...that's absolutely why we shouldn't bother...how many alerts do you see stickied at the top of that forum?
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08-11-2017, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fancyinheels
True. However, such warnings benefit gentlemen, who are ALSO at risk. I didn't see anything in the article specifying that only providers were arrested. (And interestingly, it's fellows who have suggested stickyhood. I just typed a list for quick reference.)
Things continually change, so ANY alert will eventually outlive its usefulness. Does that mean we shouldn't bother? New info can always be posted, and evolving content is par for the coarse on all boards to attract additional members and income, isn't it? Yes, take it for granted that as an adult recreational site, we attract LE attention, as well.
A thorny nudge that the Hobby isn't all roses might keep some on their toes after relaxing their guard. Seems like something the Escort Client Community Information Exchange might consider topical.
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The only people that would benefit from the disclosure of such a list would be the traveling whore and even then there shouldn't be a problem as long as she can verify the client and quickly move on to another traveling destination. The average whore doesn't travel to work.
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08-11-2017, 10:05 PM
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Actually doesn't matter to me whether the lust bust hotel list becomes a sticky or not. Awareness has been raised and the info is now in relevant forums where it can be easily searched by those prone to do so.
However, I disagree with the thought that such data only benefits "the traveling whore." The info might also be of value to local ladies hosting, area providers who make outcalls to the named establishments, and Hobbying gentlemen who could get caught up in a sting or as collateral damage while playing at the places.
More concerning to me is the pointlessness of these police procedures. Is human trafficking really being stopped by arresting consenting adults in upscale surroundings for P4P? Likely not, so seems a waste of LE resources, but as is every other opinion I express, just my lousy 2 cents for what it's worth. There will always be some agency trying to enforce a misdirected code of morality.
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08-11-2017, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fancyinheels
Actually doesn't matter to me whether the lust bust hotel list becomes a sticky or not. Awareness has been raised and the info is now in the appropriate forums where it can be easily searched by those prone to do so.
However, I disagree with the thought that such data only benefits "the traveling whore." The info might also be of value to local ladies hosting, providers who make outcalls to the named establishments, and possibly gentlemen who could get caught up in a sting or as collateral damage.
More concerning to me is the pointlessness of these police procedures. Is human trafficking really being stopped by busting consenting adults in upscale surroundings? Likely not, so seems a waste of LE resources, but as everything I say, it's just my lousy 2 cents.
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Houston and Texas in general have a huge problem with trafficking much of which involve scenarios where the girls are somewhat or outright compelled to work as prostitutes and enlist or get enlisted in organized crime. In other words, most aren't all that independent. Local indie ladies usually rely upon PI, move around frequently to different locations that aren't necessarily upscale or hot with undercover cops, or set up shop in an apartment or house that they share with other girls. The Johns that get caught in these stings are inexperienced and answer dubious ads that don't feature a well-known provider or in other words they frequent BP or BP-like websites.
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08-11-2017, 10:51 PM
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Houston and Texas in general have a huge problem with trafficking much of which involve scenarios where the girls are somewhat or outright compelled to work as prostitutes and enlist or get enlisted in organized crime. In other words, most aren't all that independent. Local indie ladies usually rely upon PI, move around frequently to different locations that aren't necessarily upscale or hot with undercover cops, or set up shop in an apartment or house that they share with other girls. The Johns that get caught in these stings are inexperienced and answer dubious ads that don't feature a well-known provider or in other words they frequent BP or BP-like websites.
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You're absolutely correct in that there IS an organized and pervasive trafficking problem, and it needs to be addressed appropriately by the authorities. However, generalizations do not encompass all situations and segments of participants, i.e. one blanket doesn't cover everybody. You cannot presume to know what ALL providers and clients do, and there's a discernible number who diverge from your description above. Even seasoned Hobbyists and hussies find themselves in sticky wickets, but knowledge is power. Let's educate the population of ECCIE, some of whom may have recently migrated from BP and know no better.
Good to have different perspectives on either side of the Hobby fence.
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08-11-2017, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fancyinheels
You're absolutely correct in that there IS an organized and pervasive trafficking problem, and it needs to be addressed appropriately. However, generalizations do not encompass all situations and segments of participants, i.e. one blanket doesn't cover everybody. You cannot presume to know what ALL providers and clients do. Even seasoned Hobbyists find themselves in sticky situations, and knowledge is power. Let's educate the population of ECCIE, some of whom may have recently migrated from BP.
Good to have different perspectives on either side of the Hobby fence.
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In other words, Houston is sketchy as fuck. Predictability, reliability and consistency are thrown out the window in this town.
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08-11-2017, 10:58 PM
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In other words, Houston is sketchy as fuck. Predictability, reliability and consistency are thrown out the window in this town.
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And in that I will agree with you 100%! We are our own world, good and bad, and everything and everyone must be judged on their individual merits. (Gad, so much more mental work, isn't it?)
Goodnight, sir.
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08-11-2017, 11:06 PM
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And in that I will agree with you 100%! We are our own world, good and bad, and everything and everyone must be judged on their individual merits. (Gad, so much more mental work, isn't it?)
Goodnight, sir.
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I rather not do the mental work. I will just go to Dallas.
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08-12-2017, 11:09 PM
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Too deep for my hobby pockets......in and out hotels......I ain't getting married or having 4 hour sessions just getting quick fix.
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08-12-2017, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cum1more
Too deep for my hobby pockets......in and out hotels......I ain't getting married or having 4 hour sessions just getting quick fix.
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PI makes a killing off of the hooker trade. 20-30 dollars for 1-2 hours of personal time. You can't beat that in Houston. Some whores are good about deducting that "incall" fee from their asking price.
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08-12-2017, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter
^^^^ typically LE runs an ad as a woman incall to catch tricks or poses as an outcall trick answering ads including icky gurls....to catch whores.
They need the action to go down on their own turf.
they set up in an adjoining/connecting room and record the activity from the wires/bugs . Once the right words are spoken, .....they enter the room.....SURPRISE.
generally "no" to your other scenarios
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Globespotter is spot on.
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08-13-2017, 07:42 AM
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Actually, the point I was trying to make was more that the newspaper reporter literally missed the boat by merely relating hotel names and numbers of pops. An empty
All of the LE methods have been well known for years.
My intended point was more like a "so what!"
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And, for those who don't know it, the "circuit" still exists as well in which very high dollar ladies roam the country at will, with very knowledgeable local madams (gasp!) assisting.
These high dollar hotties are mainly in the very large and higher end metros -- convention type cities where high spenders are their main clientele.
You won't see any 'net advertising.
And if an HDH is in the "executive" or even the "presidential" suite at a top of the line hotel property, you won't see any LE there, unless maybe he(or she!) is an attorney general type (LOL).
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08-18-2017, 08:37 PM
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This thread is relevant again.
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