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11-20-2013, 09:22 PM
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More Dem on Dem crime. Fortunately, she lives another day to see the light.
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11-20-2013, 09:33 PM
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Crime is historically greater in economically deprived neighborhoods - it is well documented. More anti-poverty programs, less crime.
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11-20-2013, 09:50 PM
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Programs
More anti-poverty programs, less crime.
No anti-poverty programs and the crime will move to where there is anti-poverty programs.
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11-21-2013, 01:36 AM
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If only it was that easy. Chicago would be a red city if victims of crime became conservatives.
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11-21-2013, 01:37 AM
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Crime is historically greater in economically deprived neighborhoods - it is well documented. More anti-poverty programs, less crime.
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Care to show us some of those documents?
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11-21-2013, 07:06 AM
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Care to show us some of those documents?
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Ever heard of Youngstown, Ohio?
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11-21-2013, 10:46 AM
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Ever hear of Hootersville?
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11-21-2013, 11:29 AM
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In Youngstown, it has massive poverty, unemployment, and crime, secondary to it being a rust belt city. Consider that documentation of the link between poverty and crime, as if everyone didn't already know it.
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11-21-2013, 12:51 PM
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Crime is historically greater in economically deprived neighborhoods - it is well documented. More anti-poverty programs, less crime.
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Actually, more dads, less crime. Anti-poverty programs don't do shit.
Those neighborhoods aren't economically deprived. They are second parent deprived. Crime is overwhelmingly caused by boys raised by a single mother. No other factor is a better predictor of crime than being raised by a single parent. And that is true even in middle class and upper middle class families.
So, do progressives have a program to fix that?
If you REALLY want to see your theory deflated, watch this YouTube clip on Freakonomics, abortion and the crime rate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6gOeggViw
Crime started dropping in the US around 1988, just about 15 years after Roe v. Wade (in 1973). Fifteen is about the age when teenage boys starts causing trouble.
No other factor has as strong a correlation to the reduction in crime that we have seen as legal abortion. Not community policing, not mandatory sentences, not poverty programs, nada.
On average, abortion gets rid of more future criminals than future law-abiding taxpayers.
Do progressives have a programs to expand THAT?
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11-21-2013, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bert Jones
In Youngstown, it has massive poverty, unemployment, and crime, secondary to it being a rust belt city. Consider that documentation of the link between poverty and crime, as if everyone didn't already know it.
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What percentage of the homes are single parent homes?
Let me answer that for you. About 57%:
http://www.city-data.com/top2/h7.html
Youngstown is No. 20 on the Top 101 Cities with the highest percentage of single parent homes.
How are you going to fix that?
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11-21-2013, 12:57 PM
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How do we know this wasn't a bunch of rich kids out having some "fun"?
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11-21-2013, 12:59 PM
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How do we know this wasn't a bunch of rich kids out having some "fun"?
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Good question
Bert?
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11-21-2013, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ExNYer
Actually, more dads, less crime. Anti-poverty programs don't do shit.
Those neighborhoods aren't economically deprived. They are second parent deprived. Crime is overwhelmingly caused by boys raised by a single mother. No other factor is a better predictor of crime than being raised by a single parent. And that is true even in middle class and upper middle class families.
So, do progressives have a program to fix that?
If you REALLY want to see your theory deflated, watch this YouTube clip on Freakonomics, abortion and the crime rate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6gOeggViw
Crime started dropping in the US around 1988, just about 15 years after Roe v. Wade (in 1973). Fifteen is about the age when teenage boys starts causing trouble.
No other factor has as strong a correlation to the reduction in crime that we have seen as legal abortion. Not community policing, not mandatory sentences, not poverty programs, nada.
On average, abortion gets rid of more future criminals than future law-abiding taxpayers.
Do progressives have a programs to expand THAT? |
I'm certainly in favor of a woman's choice, cruel as it may be to abort a child. Interesting correlation and video by Professor Levitt and a great point about reducing the number of unwanted babies, but how are you going to sell it to the government - as a eugenics program that cuts crime, with the disagreeable side affect of an increase in abortions?
Why don't we create programs that value every person born, not kill off the undesirables? Might we raise the value of our human capital that way?
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11-21-2013, 02:51 PM
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How do we know this wasn't a bunch of rich kids out having some "fun"?
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I think it was an educated guess that a poor person did it considering the area - but perhaps it was just a bunch of people walking around who decided they wanted to jack someone after they watched an internet video - what difference does it make?
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