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LTS00000 · 08-04-2010, 06:21 PM

I'm pretty new at this hobby. I've read a TON of reviews, checked out a few providers. One I was REALLY impressed with, and a few not so much.

I've noticed that I've never read a review that didn't recommend the provider being reviewed. I wonder if it's for the same reason I haven't given a negative review. I'm pretty much of the belief that if I don't have something nice to say, probably best to not say anything at all.

That said, there was one provider that I really should have given a bad review. The closest I've seen is a thread about a certain provider where replies criticized the provider in question. Obviously I've chosen to avoid that provider, even though she looks pretty damn hot.

It seems that collectively, we really don't like not recommending providers. Anyone have any theories why? Or if I have a bad experience, should I go ahead and give that bad review? Part of my fear (for lack of a better word) in giving a bad review is that I don't want to be perceived as difficult or demanding. I'm really not very demanding, pretty easy to please, am kind and respectful to anyone I meet (until given damn good reason to behave otherwise).

Anyway, I know it's sort of a random rant but would love to have anyone's feedback on the thoughts presented.

Gryphon · 08-04-2010, 06:48 PM

I've done a couple of negative reviews, both of which were well merited. I've also done a larger number of positive reviews. In general, I'm a "Benefit of the Doubt" kind of guy for scheduling issues, lateness, and even no shows unless it becomes repetitive, so it takes a lot to get a negative review from me. Any provider who researches me (and it's amazing how few do) will find the good and the bad; if fear of a bad review from me drives her away, she may not be someone I want to see anyway.

Now, if a guy posts nothing but negative reviews any provider may look askance at the prospect of seeing him. So just don't be that guy

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charlestudor2005 · 08-04-2010, 07:22 PM

I've read negative reviews on this board. It may be hard to find one in the Dallas section because the competition there is so fierce. Still, they do exist.

China Doll · 08-04-2010, 07:39 PM

I think that there are a number of reasons for this. A man who wants to post a negative review knows that he will likely have to defend himself in ways that would be unnecessary if he wrote a positive one (both against providers and hobbyists). He also knows that providers may be afraid of seeing him in case he decides to do the it again to them.

Your idea that a hobbyist might be viewed as difficult or demanding also has quite a bit of merit, and guys know this. It's difficult to criticize someone without leaving yourself open to that kind of scrutiny.

This probably doesn't apply to most men, but another possible reason would involve fear of embarrassment. There are a couple gents who could have given me a "no" recommendation based on the fact that I kicked them out. I've never gotten a bad review from them, though, and I suspect it's because my truthful rebuttal would have made them look like pretty darn bad. In other words, I don't kick people out for being the decent human beings they should be.

In my opinion, one reason for the lack of "no" recommendations dominates. This reason is human decency. People don't usually like to publicly say nasty things about others unless there are some really, really good reasons for it. So, the guy has to ask himself, "Is telling the other hobbyists that she kind of just lay there worth making this lady hate me?" A lot of times, it's not worth it. People like to be liked! Of course, I don't think that this is necessarily a good thing. It's not really fair to the other hobbyists if "yes" recommendations are given for these reasons.

charlestudor2005 · 08-04-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by China Doll

In my opinion, one reason for the lack of "no" recommendations dominates. This reason is human decency. People don't usually like to publicly say nasty things about others unless there are some really, really good reasons for it. So, the guy has to ask himself, "Is telling the other hobbyists that she kind of just lay there worth making this lady hate me?" A lot of times, it's not worth it. People like to be liked! Of course, I don't think that this is necessarily a good thing. It's not really fair to the other hobbyists if "yes" recommendations are given for these reasons.

I think it is even more basic. You go there to get your nut. If she succeeds in doing that, then she has provided the service you went there for.

You could have had a shitty time. Her attitude could have been slam bam thank you sir. Or she could have just gone through the motions. Or she could have treated you terribly, trying to get you in and out in 15 minutes when you paid for an hour.

But we all recognize the basic fact: if she's gotten your nut, you got what you went there for. And despite the "rotten" attitude, she held up her part of the bargain. It's a cash for cum session. Doesn't have to be a session with extra time or a wonderful lady.

If she makes you cum, she gets a "yes" recommendation.

[Note: the only time I've really seen bad recommendations is when cash & dash, NCNS, charging for extras, theft or something of the like is involved. If you actually see the lady, you can post a review with a "no" recommendation. If you don't spend any time with her BCD but still lose money, you need to post those in the Alerts section. I'd go there and peruse the forum.]

DianaDeepthroats · 08-04-2010, 08:00 PM

"So, the guy has to ask himself, "Is telling the other hobbyists that she kind of just lay there worth making this lady hate me?" A lot of times, it's not worth it. People like to be liked!" Originally posted by China Doll

You're not going to see that provider anymore, because she wasn't worth your time in the first place, right? So, really, what diffference does it make? More times than you know, WE providers know when we're not feeling our best or didn't perform our best & a lot of time we have reason why, but.. after the session is over, we can't fix it. & You weren't satisfied.. right? Why recommend her?

It's almost the same situation as giving guys OKAY on preferred411.com. It's at our discretion, whether he was a great client or a so-so client, made you feel uncomfortable, stiffed you, whatever.. it's at our discretion, as your reviews should be. We get plenty of shit for not giving OKAYs, but we dont have to.. so, we don't. It should be the same for you guys.

I feel like if the session wasn't what you expected, as long as you don't bash her, or criticize.. it shouldn't matter. Give factual information as to why the experience wasn't what you thought it would be, maybe even, that it wasn't what the provider advertised, with FACTS, no emotions or opinions..

Actually, I'd rather you talk to ME, as a provider, about why our session wasn't what you thought it would be. I mean, everyone has their off days.. but if something is OFF, it's just not right. Period.

We are in a world, playing in a hobby, where mediocrity should not & is not supposed to be rewarded. Seriously? Is that why there are so many providers rising & falling right now? Because you guys are scared to give a "NO" recommendation & speak on a lackluster performance? Really? But, some will go as far as to speak TO a provider on the board in a thread, about their BS providing.. so that everyone can chime in.. instead of just giving her the review she deserves?

If I had enough time on my hands, I'd go look for a thread to support my claim, but.. I think I've said enough.
Have fun. Be safe.

DianaDeepthroats · 08-04-2010, 08:17 PM

WHATS THE POINT IN A REVIEW SITE FOR ESCORTS IF YOURE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE A PROPER REVIEW?

A review is just that, a review. Good, bad, awesome, terrible.. When I go look at reviews for products I want to buy, I'm not reading a list of cons, I get positives & negatives.
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John Bull · 08-04-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DianaDeepthroats

WHATS THE POINT IN A REVIEW SITE FOR ESCORTS IF YOURE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE A PROPER REVIEW?

Word.

In fact guys, you do your fellow hobbyists a disservice by not writing a good, to the point, dispassionate review.

I have another theory as to why some hobbyists don't write reviews. Many competing boards - and they shall go unnamed - allow providers to read all the review. When guys come from those boards, they are accustomed to this practice and afraid the provider will see it and cause them trouble. That is not the case here so write away.

Gryphon · 08-04-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Bull

Word.

In fact guys, you do your fellow hobbyists a disservice by not writing a good, to the point, dispassionate review.

Passion in a positive review is a good thing, as long as there are facts to back it up. A negative review should be "Just the facts, ma'am."

John Bull · 08-04-2010, 09:42 PM

Sorry for the mixup. I was referring to negative reviews but didn't indicate it.

jhende3 · 08-04-2010, 09:55 PM

ive given bad reviews myself

TexTushHog · 08-04-2010, 11:17 PM

Two points. First, there are degrees of positive reviews. Second, I see negative reviews all the time. (Maybe not often enough, but still.) You need to read more reviews.

Cpalmson · 08-04-2010, 11:47 PM

I've written my fair share of reviews and consider myself a tough but fair reviewer. Having said that, the vast majority of my reviews are positive. Mind you, I said positive-- not superlative. I write my reviews several ways. First, I write them for fellow hobbyists. They have a right to know the good, the bad and the ugly. Second, I write reviews for the providers. I want them to know what I liked and what didn't go so well in a session. Also, I try to write in a fashion where if you read between the lines, one can gather some of the not-so-good aspects of a date/provider. I will never write a review that totally trashes a provider unless she was a rip-off artist, bait and switch, or a NCNS. On the other hand, I'm not going to hand out an A+ for every provider I see. She is going to have to earn it (so to speak)

I would say that I've had good times with the providers I've been with. Most have been solid B+/A- material; although, I've yet to recently find an ATF. The last one I had was over 15 years ago.

multiomale · 08-05-2010, 06:48 AM

I research the hell out of everyone I see so I know going in that I will have a good time. It has been years since I saw anyone that merited a bad review. I think that this is the case with most people thar post to a forum such as this. Lack of bad experiences equals a lack of negative reviews.

Sa_artman · 08-05-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by China Doll

In my opinion, one reason for the lack of "no" recommendations dominates. This reason is human decency. People don't usually like to publicly say nasty things about others unless there are some really, really good reasons for it. So, the guy has to ask himself, "Is telling the other hobbyists that she kind of just lay there worth making this lady hate me?" A lot of times, it's not worth it. People like to be liked! Of course, I don't think that this is necessarily a good thing. It's not really fair to the other hobbyists if "yes" recommendations are given for these reasons.

When there's $$ involved, decency has nothing to do with it. When it boils down to it, it's just a business transaction. If the service sucks, then it's only fair to let others know. Visits are highly subjective, but I hope hobbyist don't start holding back for fear of reprisal from providers. If that happens then this board is heading for the sinkhole.