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Old 06-22-2010, 08:59 PM   #1
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Anyone figure out a way around the new tax & no delivery by mail. This is bad news.
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:53 AM   #2
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Well, since you asked, discontinuing smoking would solve the problem. I suspect that idea was considered and rejected though. Just in case it wasn't , I thought I would throw it out there.....
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:16 AM   #3
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Hit the Indian smoke shop about 14 miles south of Syracuse on the east side of the interstate. Buy lots there.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:50 PM   #4
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Hit the Indian smoke shop about 14 miles south of Syracuse on the east side of the interstate. Buy lots there.
I Do that all the time, the problem is that this venue might end by September 1st. Anyone that is not native American will have to pay the taxes. Lets see how this one plays out
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Old 06-23-2010, 05:38 PM   #5
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I Do that all the time, the problem is that this venue might end by September 1st. Anyone that is not native American will have to pay the taxes. Lets see how this one plays out
I hope someone sues them for obviously racist laws.
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I dont go the reservation, but I just made a choice to start going after a friend told me about the prices for their generic "Niagra" Cigarettes. I tried one of their menthol smokes and it was just as good as the marb menthols I smoke. I am going to make a trip this weekend, a carton is $18 as opposed to over $8 per pack for the marbs at hess.

That being said lets hope the Indians fight it like they did in the 80's and 90's.

Here is an excerpt I found from an article online. I am willing to donate 4 old tires I have laying in my garage to their cause. <snicker>

New York's Legislature on Monday also sought to reduce the sale of tax-free cigarettes from tribes to non-Indians. That goal has eluded three previous governors and prompted threats of violence in the 1980s and 1990s, including the temporary closing of the state Thruway through Indian land when it was blocked with burning tires and debris.
"It's an act of war," J.C. Seneca, a Seneca Nation councilor, told The Buffalo News. Seneca said Paterson has chosen a "path of controversy and confrontation, (and) if anything happens, it's on their hands."


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I am guessing that the tax only effects the brand name cigarettes. Anyone who is able to switch to Indian brands I think can escape the taxes.
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Old 06-23-2010, 09:14 PM   #8
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we were born here we should be native americans .


TAX something else leave the smoker alone!

where does the LOTTO and the Thruway $$$$ go ?
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I LOVE THE NEW TAX LAW. ANYONE THAT HAS ANY BRAINS AT ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT SMOKING KILLS WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE. I HAVE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF SMOKING FIRST HAND MANY TIMES OVER. IT IS A BRUTAL WAY TO DIE!
I DO AGREE WITH WHERE DOES HE LOTTO AND THRUWAY $$$ GO???
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Well, since you asked, discontinuing smoking would solve the problem. I suspect that idea was considered and rejected though. Just in case it wasn't , I thought I would throw it out there.....

Yep. The committee rejected that one.

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Old 06-24-2010, 02:15 AM   #11
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after reading the smoking thread in Di & tux. I give up a smoking threads. Killed a pack of cowboy killers reading that thread.
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:13 PM   #12
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Well the environmental wacko's will tell you just about everything is going to kill you, but I believe that should be our own choice, not the govt. I have already stocked up for the year by getting them from the Seneca's thru the mail, but that stops in a few days. The Onieda Nation price for my brand is $14 more a carton at the present time. I don't believe the Onondaga Nation is any cheaper. I'll figure something out eventually.
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Well the environmental wacko's will tell you just about everything is going to kill you, but I believe that should be our own choice, not the govt.
I agree with you up to the point that the government ends up paying for the healthcare of a large number of people who chose to smoke. Until Medicare can tell people who smoked for 20+ years that have to pay for their smoking related illness I have no problem jacking the price of cigarettes to offset the cost and deter them from doing so.
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I agree with you up to the point that the government ends up paying for the healthcare of a large number of people who chose to smoke. Until Medicare can tell people who smoked for 20+ years that have to pay for their smoking related illness ...
...and now you have the precise reason why the government should not fund health care.

They can pretend to have a fiduciary interest in every aspect of your life that may affect health care demand.

It started with motorcycle helmets in the '70s. It will not end as long as there is someone trying to control your life.
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Old 06-25-2010, 04:11 AM   #15
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I can envision a country that started a revolution about unfair taxes on tea from being banned from drinking tea because it has caffeine!
Smoking, same rights as free speech? from this link if you dare
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