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Doove · 07-23-2012, 12:52 PM

"You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities. All right!"

http://themoderatevoice.com/153994/q...t-there-alone/

I'm beginning to think Romney wouldn't be all that bad an alternative to Obama. Provided you go by the real Mitt Romney and not the pandering Mitt Romney.

CJ7 · 07-23-2012, 12:57 PM

Touche'

clean thy blade and sheath thy sword ....

i'va biggen · 07-23-2012, 01:44 PM

I think they are twins,maybe there is a photo shopped pic of them kissing

JD Barleycorn · 07-23-2012, 01:49 PM

I, I..can't respond just yet. They are starting to get it. I am so proud...

CJ7 · 07-23-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

I, I..can't respond just yet. They are starting to get it. I am so proud...

if you replaced olympians with businessmen would you get it and be as proud?

icuminpeace · 07-23-2012, 02:01 PM

If you believe what Romney or Obama say, you must live in an alternate reality.

Doove · 07-23-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ7

if you replaced olypians with businessmen would you get it and be as proud?

Not if Obama said it. But you knew that.

joe bloe · 07-23-2012, 02:22 PM

It's a silly comparison. Obama made his observation that people don't build their own businesses as a way of legitimizing the confiscation of their wealth. Romney is not proposing that the Olympians should be made to share their medals with others because they didn't really earn them.

All of us are helped in life by parents, friends, teachers and mentors. Some of us are able to build successful businesses and wealth partly because of being helped by others. Some of us receive similar assistance and fail to become wealthy because of lack of ambition or laziness.

Those who take advantage of the opportunites that life presents, do not deserve to have their wealth confiscated, to be redistributed to other less industrious people. Not everyone is entitled to the same standard of living. Wealth has to be tied to merit; otherwise there is no incentive to produce, and we all become poor.

We need a system that offers equal opportunity not equal outcome.

Doove · 07-23-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by joe bloe

It's a silly comparison. Obama made his observation that people don't build their own businesses as a way of legitimizing the confiscation of their wealth.

Funny, i don't remember the conversation being about whether or not it was legitimate to confiscate their wealth.

I'd say nice try, but it really wasn't.

WTF · 07-23-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doove

Funny, i don't remember the conversation being about whether or not it was legitimate to confiscate their wealth.

I'd say nice try, but it really wasn't.

jb has voices in his head that whisper 'socialist' ever time Obama says anything...

CuteOldGuy · 07-23-2012, 02:52 PM

Romney really said that? Good lord!. And he is our alternative to Obama?

Unbelievable. Maybe Romney won't buy us the time we need. I'm starting to think it's hopeless.

I can't find much difference between what Obama said, and what Romney said. The only difference might be that Obama would use government to back up his statement more quickly than Romney would, but who can even be sure of that?

Romney is still slightly better choice between the two, but the gap is narrowing.

Jesus. Romney v. Obama. I demand a recount.

WTF · 07-23-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ7

if you replaced olympians with businessmen would you get it and be as proud?

I think JD is saying that there is the Dems way , the GOP way and then there is the Tea Party way.

I doubt that JD cares for Mitt but I could be wrong.

CJ7 · 07-23-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Romney really said that? Good lord!. And he is our alternative to Obama?

Unbelievable. Maybe Romney won't buy us the time we need. I'm starting to think it's hopeless.

I can't find much difference between what Obama said, and what Romney said. The only difference might be that Obama would use government to back up his statement more quickly than Romney would, but who can even be sure of that?

Romney is still slightly better choice between the two, but the gap is narrowing.

Jesus. Romney v. Obama. I demand a recount.

thats what Ive been telling you .... write in Johnson

Im writing in somebody for damn sure ... if that means Obie wins or Romney wins I dont give a shit in a paper sack ... one will win anyway and theres not enough difference to spit on.

Im not stepping all over my standards and voting for either just because I dont want one or the other to win ... that IMO is wasting my vote

CuteOldGuy · 07-23-2012, 03:04 PM

I think Gary Johnson is on the ballot in all 50 (or 57) states. I know he is in Kansas.

joe bloe · 07-23-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doove

Funny, i don't remember the conversation being about whether or not it was legitimate to confiscate their wealth.

I'd say nice try, but it really wasn't.

Obama's comment was obviously tied to his belief in the legitimacy of taking away from rich people and giving to the less rich. Obama is saying that the rich don't do anything to warrant keeping their money. Obama says, there are plenty of smart people that work hard that aren't rich; he's implying, that they are entitled to the wealth produced by others.

The legitimate right to keep what you produce, has been at heart of the national conversation on this controversy from the beginning.