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02-20-2012, 01:27 AM
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HID will immediately say this is a firestarter but...
I was checking out the BP to make sure a new girl Diamond didn't post there first and came across this ad:
http://shreveport.backpage.com/Femal...ing-20/4794134
This girl is young, sleek, attractive, dark-skinned and if she weren't on BP I would totally want to call her up. Except I get to the part where she has an NBA policy and I am thrown off despite knowing that anyone of any race is entitled to their own personal preference.
Am I just showing my ass here or is there something even more wrong with us than usual when someone discriminates against their own race? Everyone is entitled to their own preferences I know. Some have had bad experiences and associate those experiences with the race of the perpetrator.
And it's backwards to accept it when a non-AA provider saying NBA yet raise eyebrows when an AA provider does the same thing. The Dave Chappelle skit about the blind black white-supremacist comes to mind and points out the uncomfortably hilarious absurdity.
But it raises a question to me nonetheless: Do providers feel they are more likely to attract a greater number of clients on the whole if they say they won't see black guys?
If that's actually true - Just sayin - that's really fucked up
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02-20-2012, 02:45 AM
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It's, unfortunately, quite common.
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02-20-2012, 06:36 AM
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Personally, I've seen providers of every ethnic group and all have been wonderful. However, in talking to ladies about this MOST have said their NBA policy has been based in a bad experience. The ladies I have talked with have told me they have, or their roommates, or close friends have had problems with the way they were treated, or the attitudes they have encountered, so they set their policy accordingly. I'm not saying it is a good thing, simply a choice. Speaking to some black providers I have been told it is the younger guys that have been a problem, so maybe it is more an age thing. Just sharing info.
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02-20-2012, 01:59 PM
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Onthe DL... This is actually a good and thought provoking post with lots of questions that could be answered here.... BUT, just remember this one final thought for this hobby of ours: Her pussy--- Her rules! End of conversation. Just move on.
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02-20-2012, 02:16 PM
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This is just my opinion and it only applies to some...
I think for most, it is just a marketing technique to attract prejudice clientele who think a hooker is somehow cleaner if she hasn't been penetrated by black dick.
I think black girls who have an NBA policy are ignorant and most girls with NBA policies don't screen, so this is the only measure they can use try and protect themselves from criminals ( who are all black apparently.)
Some girls are insecure or have some self-hatred going on and what to do as much as possible to disassociate themselves from that race.
Also I think that excuse..."I don't see anyone I wouldn't date in real life- that includes black men- is a big crock of shit" This isn't the fucking dating game he just wants to fuck you, they say this like they would give every white client the time of day if they met in civvies life.
I have met plenty of well put together and mature men of African American origins and they are just as passionate, sweet, and attentive as any other real date I have. The only thing I discriminate with is age, and that applies to every race- but I hardly have anyone under 30 inquire about my company so it's not really a problem.
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02-20-2012, 09:01 PM
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HID will immediately say this is a firestarter
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I ain't THAT predictable. Like Muffy said, this is a good thread. All that is asked is that no slurs be dropped.
Now, I'll add my buck ninety-five. Gals have all kind of rules. It seems the most common is the NBA exclusion. Second, is probably the age restriction (ex. no guys under 35). But I even know a gal that won't go FS with anyone of above average size. The point is, no matter what the reason a gal has the final say. Yours truly has gotten bounced before. It sucks. But ya move on.
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02-20-2012, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
This is just my opinion and it only applies to some...
I think for most, it is just a marketing technique to attract prejudice clientele who think a hooker is somehow cleaner if she hasn't been penetrated by black dick.
I think black girls who have an NBA policy are ignorant and most girls with NBA policies don't screen, so this is the only measure they can use try and protect themselves from criminals ( who are all black apparently.)
Some girls are insecure or have some self-hatred going on and what to do as much as possible to disassociate themselves from that race.
Also I think that excuse..."I don't see anyone I wouldn't date in real life- that includes black men- is a big crock of shit" This isn't the fucking dating game he just wants to fuck you, they say this like they would give every white client the time of day if they met in civvies life.
I have met plenty of well put together and mature men of African American origins and they are just as passionate, sweet, and attentive as any other real date I have. The only thing I discriminate with is age, and that applies to every race- but I hardly have anyone under 30 inquire about my company so it's not really a problem.
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Well said, unfortunately we have not had the pleasure of meeting. hopefully one of these days.
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02-20-2012, 10:24 PM
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HID will immediately say this is a firestarter but...
I was checking out the BP to make sure a new girl Diamond didn't post there first and came across this ad:
http://shreveport.backpage.com/Femal...ing-20/4794134
This girl is young, sleek, attractive, dark-skinned and if she weren't on BP I would totally want to call her up. Except I get to the part where she has an NBA policy and I am thrown off despite knowing that anyone of any race is entitled to their own personal preference.
Am I just showing my ass here or is there something even more wrong with us than usual when someone discriminates against their own race? Everyone is entitled to their own preferences I know. Some have had bad experiences and associate those experiences with the race of the perpetrator.
And it's backwards to accept it when a non-AA provider saying NBA yet raise eyebrows when an AA provider does the same thing. The Dave Chappelle skit about the blind black white-supremacist comes to mind and points out the uncomfortably hilarious absurdity.
But it raises a question to me nonetheless: Do providers feel they are more likely to attract a greater number of clients on the whole if they say they won't see black guys?
If that's actually true - Just sayin - that's really fucked up
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DL don't waste your time drilling into this topic, I sure you know that this very topic is a ongoing discussion on the national page. I saw the very add you reference and wanted to contact her and late her know she's not welcome, but I quickly caught myself and realized in the long run she will only do herself a disservice. Just watch before long she will remove that restriction most AA girls end up doing so (not sure why). But for me once you post a NBA policy I move on quickly and will no reconcider we she changes her mind.
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02-28-2012, 01:04 PM
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i do not ask race when screening, if screening is passed, then I have no challenge with race.
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02-28-2012, 02:02 PM
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I always read these threads with interest not necessarily for the subject matter but more so as to why the person posted what they did. We all have biases and prejudices based on our individual life experiences and our perception of right and wrong and seeing those in these posts are quite interesting. Most if not all opines are right and wrong to some degree and often the most simplistic ones seem the most right. My favorite is one given by a well-known ECCIE provider is: White guys are just easier to get off. While the merits of this business model can be debated, it is a valid business model for her.
Thanks for the topic & post!
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But I even know a gal that won't go FS with anyone of above average size....
Yours truly has gotten bounced before. It sucks. But ya move on.
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What are you trying to say HID? BTW, I think we are both referencing the same provider.
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02-28-2012, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
This is just my opinion and it only applies to some...
I think for most, it is just a marketing technique to attract prejudice clientele
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My favorite is one given by a well-known ECCIE provider is: White guys are just easier to get off. While the merits of this business model can be debated, it is a valid business model for her.
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I think it cones down to this. Most of these AA black providers on BP have been introduced to this via jobs stripping. In the strip clubs, black men typically want the girl to work hard for her few dollars while white men are easier to get money from. That is not a rascist assumption, it is a fact. I once worked as a cocktail waitress in a strip club, and all the girls flocked to the white boys because they were easy.
Now as providers, they seek to market themselves the same way they do as strippers. To them, white guys are easy, harmless, and easy to get over on.
Also, it may be considered that AA providers have a NBA policy because the are afraid of seeing a client who is related to them or knows them. Fact is, Louisiana cities just aren't big enough. My AA father's family is from SWLA and is huge! In that area, the degree of separation between a random individual and a cousin of mine is like 1.5. Perhaps it is not so much discrimination, but avoiding recognition.
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02-28-2012, 07:19 PM
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i do not ask race when screening, if screening is passed, then I have no challenge with race.
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This is my view as well. As I mention in all of these threads I was robbed twice (and assaulted during one of those) by white guys. If I discriminated based on personal experience I'd be out of business.
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02-29-2012, 12:50 AM
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Long long ago....
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Also, it may be considered that AA providers have a NBA policy because the are afraid of seeing a client who is related to them or knows them. Fact is, Louisiana cities just aren't big enough. Perhaps it is not so much discrimination, but avoiding recognition.
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When I started I implemented this very same policy for this reason and this reason alone.
As a graduate of a HBCU and a very active member of social clubs I found it very necessary to do so at that time. Ensuring this lifestyle remained separate from my real life.
Realizing how asinine and offensive my initial ads appeared,I promptly found a new way to screen out the lovely AA gentlemen that may possibly know me personally.
Best thing I could have ever done.
Imho the "bad experiences" line just doesn't make much sense to me in this business.
Still waiting to see the same "providers" exclude White males after a bad experience. Every lady has the right to choose who they see regardless of the reason. I just tend to have a little more respect for those who are straight up about it.
Unfortunately ,truth be told, there just aren't enough active AA males in P4P to make an impact. If an AA gentleman wants to really be progressive he will stop second chancing the NBA providers. When the same lady who turned you down based upon race 6 months ago finds herself in a financial bind and offers to see you for a discount, simply reply"Nah I'm good"
Guaranteed if you were in the NFL,NBA etc you wouldn't have this problem
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02-29-2012, 09:53 AM
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Imho the "bad experiences" line just doesn't make much sense to me in this business.
Still waiting to see the same "providers" exclude White males after a bad experience.
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Thank you. Like I said, I'd be out of f'ing business if I excluded the race of the ones who robbed me.
I've updated my sig to reflect all of these threads. Black, green, purple - all welcome
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02-29-2012, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SkylarCruzWantsYou
This is just my opinion and it only applies to some...
I think for most, it is just a marketing technique to attract prejudice clientele who think a hooker is somehow cleaner if she hasn't been penetrated by black dick.
I think black girls who have an NBA policy are ignorant and most girls with NBA policies don't screen, so this is the only measure they can use try and protect themselves from criminals ( who are all black apparently.)
Some girls are insecure or have some self-hatred going on and what to do as much as possible to disassociate themselves from that race.
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I couldn't disagree with Skylar more.
I (as I assume for most men on these boards) don't see only women with NBA policies. So having an NBA policy isn't a marketing technique that brings ladies more business.
I (as I assume for most men on these boards) see the ladies I want to, whether they've been "penetrated by black dick" or not. Frankly, I find that statement a bit offensive. And to say a lady has an NBA policy to attract "prejudice clientele" because a white guy might feel the "hooker" is somehow cleaner for not doing black guys knocks on the door of racism, or should I say reverse racism.
It's the lady and her menu that attract me (as I assume for most men on these boards), not the other clientele she sees.
To say " black girls who have an NBA policy are ignorant" is an insult to black girls (and to all girls for that matter) who have an NBA policy.
And to say "most girls with NBA policies don't screen" is just wrong. I have seen some gals with NBA policies, and by the time they finished screening me, I could have passed top level security for the NSA.
And to also say "Some girls are insecure or have some self-hatred going on" because they have an NBA policy is a real stretch. With all due respect Skylar, where did you get your psychology degree? Did you psychoanalysed all the NBA ladies or just divined this information from your experiences.
Look, here's the deal. Girls (black, white, asian, latino or mixed) have the right to see who they want for whatever reasons they want. And if a lady has an NBA policy, it doesn't make her any of the things you said. It just means she doesn't care (for whatever reason) to see black guys.
Like MM said "her pussy, her rules" and as I say: to each their own without judgment.
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