LE detector a different question?

[saxcat81]

Here is my concern. A provider asks “what do you want to do?” I’m concerned about asking for specific services until I know are not LE. I’m unsure how to reply to this statement, and especially with a provider that has no reviews.

[shotgun willy]

Ive stubbled over that also. Are they LEO trying to lead the lamb to the XXXXX, or a well educated (and careful) escort trying to get me to "say" the first incriminating statement. They could be a well intentioned provider wanting to make sure you are happy. So far I have answered all those questions by saying something like "everything" . All has ended well so far. What do you semi legal minds or experienced fans of the hobby think?

[boomer_ci]

That question makes me a little uncomfortable as well. Most I have met don't ask that question but some do. Is it even really necessary, I mean it's obvious why we're there.

[MsElena]

The question might make you uncomfortable, but when I ask, "What are you in the mood for? What do you like? What would you like to do?" its because everyone is different and I want them to have a fulfilled visit with me.

Every session may end the same way, but everyone likes different things. I can't assume that all guys like to be beat or like hot oil rubs. Hence me asking.

[boomer_ci]

Good point Elena. I appreciate a girl taking the time to find out what I like but I always get a little nervous with that question if it's asked right off the bat with a girl I'm meeting for the first time. I would prefer to get the session going first and then broach the subject after we're comfortable with one another.

[MsElena]

Boomer,

I never ask that question within the first 10 minutes of meeting a new client. I wait a while, talk a little and give him enough time to get a sense of my personality. Then like a puma, I lunge into attack mood. hahaha kidding

You do make a good point though about a new girl asking you that. But, that's where your research comes into play. If you know she's legit....answer away, if there's no intel on her, proceed with caution.

[Guest030824]

If I have no prior knowledge of the provider I like to go to dinner first. My thoughts are these. 1. If she is LE she won't want to waste time on dinner. 2. I get to know her out look on things and her sense of humor. So far I have had good results with this plan.

[Travel and Play]

Originally Posted by saxcat81

Here is my concern. A provider asks “what do you want to do?” I’m concerned about asking for specific services until I know are not LE. I’m unsure how to reply to this statement, and especially with a provider that has no reviews.

Do your research prior to your session and this should not be a concern. I only schedule with well known providers. My problem with this question, "what do you want to do", is I like to do it all and my answer to her is "everything".

[Bigh1955]

Originally Posted by shotgun willy

Ive stubbled over that also. Are they LEO trying to lead the lamb to the XXXXX, or a well educated (and careful) escort trying to get me to "say" the first incriminating statement. They could be a well intentioned provider wanting to make sure you are happy. So far I have answered all those questions by saying something like "everything" . All has ended well so far. What do you semi legal minds or experienced fans of the hobby think?

First of all a sting focused on Johns is rare, so I wouldn't lay awake at night thinking about this detailed an issue. That said, if you've already provided the fee/donation "for her time" (and don't expect that to provide much help in court) and then say "everthing" it all depends on who takes the next step. If you do and you touch her in a sexual manner, you may be prosecuted in most states. If she takes the next step and touches you in a sexual manner chances are she a provider and you should just enjoy yourself

[MsElena]

Stings to get hobbyists aren't rare in Omaha, I know of a sting a few weeks ago where a couple guys were busted. They happen, they just aren't as public knowledge in Omaha as escorts getting busted.

If the chick is a cop or decoy, etc., you're going to be busted once you show up at the hotel, its called intent. You don't even have to go into the hotel, if the cops want you, they'll get you.

[JDNorthface]

Originally Posted by tucson

If I have no prior knowledge of the provider I like to go to dinner first. ...

+1

At least drinks.

Good word.

[cxavier]

Originally Posted by MsElena

Stings to get hobbyists aren't rare in Omaha, I know of a sting a few weeks ago where a couple guys were busted. They happen, they just aren't as public knowledge in Omaha as escorts getting busted.

If the chick is a cop or decoy, etc., you're going to be busted once you show up at the hotel, its called intent. You don't even have to go into the hotel, if the cops want you, they'll get you.

MsElena, I really appreciate all of your input and your wealth of experience. I was a little surprised, though, when you said that a hobbyist would get arrested just for showing up at a location. Unless an agreement has been made for more than just someone's time, why would they arrest you on arrival? There are providers of erotic, but not illegal, services. Without an explicit agreement of something illegal for money, wouldn't both provider and hobbyist be safe? I am sincerely interested because I am quite new to this and extremely cautious.

[Guest030824]

I still maintain if the lady has no referrals and no history taking them to dinner is a sure way to weed out LE. LE won't waste time with it and BCD after words will be OK. Most have references so that won't be necessary. Stopping and asking a street walker to go to dinner should be funny as hell.

[newyorkboy]

Originally Posted by tucson

I still maintain if the lady has no referrals and no history taking them to dinner is a sure way to weed out LE. LE won't waste time with it and BCD after words will be OK. Most have references so that won't be necessary. Stopping and asking a street walker to go to dinner should be funny as hell.

And if you offer to take them to dinner, and the words "Krispy Kreme" come out of their mouth, well then you have your answer!

[Guest030824]

Donuts are a tip off that they are LE. One of my cop friends sent me a picture of a cop stopping a Dunkin Donut truck. I wonder what a decoy would say if you invited her to lunch. Sure as hell wouldn't appear on a TV show.