"Spread The Wealth"

[Whirlaway]

Watch, then vote...............or not !

http://www.therightscoop.com/shockin...ion-of-wealth/

[budman33]

You had me at Destory

[Whirlaway]

Like Roosevelt before Obama; Progressive lefties have long tried to wage class warfare; manipulate (motivate) the masses by vilifying the wealthy among us....

Here is what Churchill thought of Roosevelt's similar class warfare politics; and Churchill was an admirer of Roosevelet........

"A second danger to President Roosevelt’s valiant and heroic experiments seems to arise from the disposition to hunt down rich men as if they were noxious beasts. It is a very attractive sport, and once it gets started quite a lot of people everywhere are found ready to join in the chase. Moreover, the quarry is at once swift and crafty, and therefore elusive. The pursuit is long and exciting, and everyone’s blood is infected with its ardour. The question arises whether the general well-being of the masses of the community will be advanced by an excessive indulgence in this amusement. The millionaire or multi-millionaire is a highly economic animal. He sucks up with sponge-like efficiency money from all quarters. In this process, far from depriving ordinary people of their earnings, he launches enterprise and carries it through, raises values, and he expands that credit without which on a vast scale no fuller economic life can be opened to the millions. To hunt wealth is not to capture commonwealth."

Credit to the brilliant Steven Hayward at Powerline for this observation....

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...-for-obama.php

[Yssup Rider]

Brilliant variables for a poll.

How about -- "Stirng him up?"

BTW, did you know that three out of four people are 75%?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Excellent post about Sir Winston, Whirlaway, Churchill was a truly strong leader and what did those dumbass Brits do the moment he'd saved England from the Nazis? They dumped him only to watch their country go down the socialist path.

And Roosevelt? I consider him one of the worst Presidents ever. He was an effete snob. he worried about his image with his chin up in the air and his cigarette pointed up. And he should have, because even he knew what an arrogant image it conveyed.

Anyone watch that video and notice all that socialist Marxist crap? Mao. Fat stupid commie idiot. His 5 year plans were a disaster. Socialism is nothing more than the whining of worthless losers who envy those who work hard and succeed.

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Excellent post about Sir Winston, Whirlaway, Churchill was a truly strong leader and what did those dumbass Brits do the moment he'd saved England from the Nazis? They dumped him only to watch their country go down the socialist path.

And Roosevelt? I consider him one of the worst Presidents ever. He was an effete snob. he worried about his image with his chin up in the air and his cigarette pointed up. And he should have, because even he knew what an arrogant image it conveyed.

Anyone watch that video and notice all that socialist Marxist crap? Mao. Fat stupid commie idiot. His 5 year plans were a disaster. Socialism is nothing more than the whining of worthless losers who envy those who work hard and succeed.

agree, it was only WWII that saved Roosevelt

a donkey friend of mine said recently, thank god we SS, I said I would rather have it in my own account

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Watch, then vote...............or not !

http://www.therightscoop.com/shockin...ion-of-wealth/

Why do you even look at those out of context, grab 5-6 words in row, bullshit videos?

"This weekend," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said today, "a plumber concerned that Senator Obama was going to raise his taxes asked him directly about his plan. The response was telling. Senator Obama explained to him that he was going to raise his taxes to quote ‘spread the wealth around.’"
Is that what happened?
Judge for yourself — here’s the exchange.
Outside Toledo, Ohio, on Sunday, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was approached by plumber Joe Wurzelbacher, a big, bald man with a goatee who asked Obama if he believes in the American dream.
"I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year," Wurzelbacher said. "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?"
Obama said, "First off, you would get a 50% tax credit so you’d get a tax cut for your healthcare costs….. if your revenue is above 250 – then from 250 down, your taxes are going to stay the same. It is true that from 250 up – from 250 – 300 or so, so for that additional amount, you’d go from 36 to 39%, which is what it was under Bill Clinton. And the reason why we’re doing that is because 95% of small businesses make less than 250. So what I want to do is give them a tax cut. I want to give all these folks who are bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less, I want to give them a tax cut. And so what we’re doing is, we are saying that folks who make more than 250 that that marginal amount above 250 – they’re gonna be taxed at a 39 instead of a 36% rate.”
Responded Wurzelbacher, "the reason I ask you about the American dream, I mean I’ve worked hard. I’m a plumber. I work 10-12 hours a day and I’m buying this company and I’m going to continue working that way. I’m getting taxed more and more while fulfilling the American dream."
"Well," said Obama, "here’s a way of thinking about it. How long have been a plumber?"
Wurzelbacher said 15 years.
Obama says, “Over the last 15 years, when you weren’t making 250, you would have been given a tax cut from me, so you’d actually have more money, which means you would have saved more, which means you would have gotten to the point where you could build your small business quicker than under the current tax code. So there are two ways of looking at it – I mean one way of looking at it is, now that you’ve become more successful through hard work – you don’t want to be taxed as much.”
“Exactly," Wurzelbacher said.
Obama continued, “But another way of looking at it is 95% of folks who are making less than 250, they may be working hard too, but they’re being taxed at a higher rate than they would be under mine. So what I’m doing is, put yourself back 10 years ago when you were only making whatever, 60 or 70. Under my tax plan you would be keeping more of your paycheck, you’d be paying lower taxes, which means you would have saved…Now look, nobody likes high taxes."
"No," said Wurzelbacher.
"Of course not," said Obama. "But what’s happened is that we end up – we’ve cut taxes a lot for folks like me who make a lot more than 250. We haven’t given a break to folks who make less, and as a consequence, the average wage and income for ordinary folks, the vast majority of Americans, has actually gone down over the last eight years. So all I want to do is – I’ve got a tax cut. The only thing that changes, is I’m gonna cut taxes a little bit more for the folks who are most in need and for the 5% of the folks who are doing very well – even though they’ve been working hard and I appreciate that – I just want to make sure they’re paying a little bit more in order to pay for those other tax cuts. Now, I respect the disagreement. I just want you to be clear – it’s not that I want to punish your success – I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too.”
Wurzelbacher said it seemed as though Obama might support a flat tax.
Obama says, “you know, I would be open to it except here’s the problem with a flat tax is that if you actually put a flat tax together, in order for it to work and replace all the revenue that we’ve got, you’d probably end up having to make it like about a 40% sales tax. I mean that’s the value added, making it up. Now some people say 23 or 25, but in truth when you add up all the revenue that would need to be raised, you’d have to slap on a whole bunch of sales taxes on. And I do believe for folks like me who have worked hard, but frankly also been lucky, I don’t mind paying just a little bit more than the waitress that I just met over there who’s things are slow and she can barely make the rent."
Obama said, "My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody."
That’s the key moment McCain is jumping out…"when you spread the wealth around it’s good for everybody."
"But listen," Obama said, shaking Wurzelbacher’s hand, "I respect what you do and I respect your question, and even if I don’t get your vote, I’m still gonna be working hard on your behalf, because small businesses are what creates jobs in this country and I want to encourage it.”
"Guys I gotta get out of here and go prepare for the debate," Obama said, "but that was pretty good practice right there."

[Af-Freakin]

why is spreading the wealth around bad? the rich dont need it all & the poor do

[CuteOldGuy]

Not really wanting to support the rich, but if they earned it, why should you have it? If they don't need that much, how much should they be allowed to have?

[Whirlaway]

With the widespread destruction of WWII; it is understandable that the British wanted a safety net for those who lost and sacrficed everything during the War; unfortunately that safety net expanded into decades of expanded government and dependency that ruined productivity and the British economy; then Margaret Thacher showed up !

And what was one of the first things Obama did when he got into the Oval Office?

He returned the bust of Chruchill that was gifted to the US by Tony Blair on behalf of the British people. Guess he didn't want the constant presence of a great man reminding him of his belief in redistribution politics.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Excellent post about Sir Winston, Whirlaway, Churchill was a truly strong leader and what did those dumbass Brits do the moment he'd saved England from the Nazis? They dumped him only to watch their country go down the socialist path.

And Roosevelt? I consider him one of the worst Presidents ever. He was an effete snob. he worried about his image with his chin up in the air and his cigarette pointed up. And he should have, because even he knew what an arrogant image it conveyed.

Anyone watch that video and notice all that socialist Marxist crap? Mao. Fat stupid commie idiot. His 5 year plans were a disaster. Socialism is nothing more than the whining of worthless losers who envy those who work hard and succeed.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

agree, it was only WWII that saved Roosevelt

a donkey friend of mine said recently, thank god we SS, I said I would rather have it in my own account

Yep, nice add cpt, his so-called "New Deal" had done little in real terms to help lift the country out of the Great Depression, except of course to usher in a new era of Big Government Excess we still struggle under to this day. It was World War II that really ignited our economic might. Actually, to review Roosevelt's Presidency fairly, he was a decent wartime President, mainly because unlike Hitler he didn't interfere constantly with his Generals and Admirals. He let them do what they had been trained to do. Fight a War.

If Hitler had done that we'd all be speaking German right now. That's broad statement of course, and i doubt Germany really could have conquered the entire planet but they could have easily defeated Russia and they already had Europe and a large part of North Africa, and Japan controlled most all of Asia, so a possible result if Hitler hadn't fancied himself a "Grand Field Marshall" is a stalemate where all of Europe and Asia were Axis and all of North and South America and Australia were Allied. Scary thought.

And i'd be far better off for retirement if i could take all that SS wasted money and invest it myself.