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03-04-2025, 03:18 PM
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farmers losing markets
China’s finance ministry said the country is imposing an additional 15% tariff on U.S. chicken, wheat, corn and cotton products, and an additional 10% tariff on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, seafood, fruits, vegetables and dairy products.
Trump has been talking how his policies are going to help farmers, such as his tariffs planned
for EU products and South America products.
Looks like a mixed bag.
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03-04-2025, 03:30 PM
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China has been investing in South American Agriculture for the last 20 years.
China never complied with the Ag agreements they agreed to from Trumps first term in office.
China has never complied with WTO agreements since they were allowed in the WTO.
Trump at least understands the issues, Democrats put their head in the sand and blame Republicans
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03-04-2025, 03:49 PM
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No idea what you are trying to interject.
Tariffs will lower demand for agricultural products. Commodity prices will decline. Farmers will make
less money. Some may have to close up shop. Most farmers and rural America voted for Trump.
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03-04-2025, 04:32 PM
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Remember Trump's last 'trade war' with China?
Ending up spending everything the tariffs took in plus more in support for the farmers who lost the markets due to the trade war.
Those who do not remember history....
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03-04-2025, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
No idea what you are trying to interject.
Tariffs will lower demand for agricultural products. Commodity prices will decline. Farmers will make
less money. Some may have to close up shop. Most farmers and rural America voted for Trump.
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That is because you are clueless about issues that the misinformation mainstream press don't tell you about.
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03-04-2025, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RX792P
Remember Trump's last 'trade war' with China?
Ending up spending everything the tariffs took in plus more in support for the farmers who lost the markets due to the trade war.
Those who do not remember history....
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Not even close to reality.
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03-04-2025, 06:01 PM
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That is because you are clueless about issues that the misinformation mainstream press don't tell you about.
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No idea why you need to make attacks on other posters. And you make some general statement about the mainstream media to defend yourself ?
I am well aware what causes commodity prices to change. These actions by Trump don't look like they will benefit the American farmer.
Or American agriculture companies. Did you see ADM stock price today.....
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03-04-2025, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
No idea why you need to make attacks on other posters. And you make some general statement about the mainstream media to defend yourself ?
I am well aware what causes commodity prices to change. These actions by Trump don't look like they will benefit the American farmer.
Or American agriculture companies. Did you see ADM stock price today.....
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You have no clue what you don’t know
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03-04-2025, 07:54 PM
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How long does it take to grow a chicken for laying?
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03-05-2025, 07:13 AM
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03-05-2025, 02:32 PM
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How long does it take to grow a chicken for laying?
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20 weeks, well a little more, that is after they are hatched as a baby chick. I forget how long it takes to incubate the eggs.
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03-05-2025, 03:41 PM
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About 3 weeks, give or take a day to incubate and hatch. Then another 18-22 weeks till you have layers. Unless the rooster's lazy
Last part's a joke... kinda....
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03-05-2025, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
No idea what you are trying to interject.
Tariffs will lower demand for agricultural products. Commodity prices will decline. Farmers will make
less money. Some may have to close up shop. Most farmers and rural America voted for Trump.
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Guess that's what the maggies want: to subsidize farmers. Y'all know how much they like to put out $$$ for the little guys.
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Remember Trump's last 'trade war' with China?
Ending up spending everything the tariffs took in plus more in support for the farmers who lost the markets due to the trade war.
Those who do not remember history....
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
That is because you are clueless about issues that the misinformation mainstream press don't tell you about.
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Not even close to reality.
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Well, farm, why don't you explain it to us all?
Being i have land that is an active ranch and such, i'll really be listening to your reply. I want to see what reality it is you are living on your patch of earth.
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
No idea why you need to make attacks on other posters. And you make some general statement about the mainstream media to defend yourself ?
I am well aware what causes commodity prices to change. These actions by Trump don't look like they will benefit the American farmer.
Or American agriculture companies. Did you see ADM stock price today.....
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You have no clue what you don’t know
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Ain't the well reasoned, thought out reply I was expecting from repeated inquires for your explaination.
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Loved how Colbert put it. donny said farmers were going to have a field day. Colbert *rightly* put it that farmers always have a field day at work.
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03-05-2025, 05:21 PM
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The point I'm trying to make is that if you want to reduce egg prices you have to replace all the layers that Biden ordered killed. If you start now you need 100 million fertilized eggs that have to be hatched. The chicks have to be sexed because trans chicks don't lay eggs. Hens start laying small eggs before they develop into large and extra large eggs. How long does it take to undo what Biden caused to happen?
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03-05-2025, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter
The point I'm trying to make is that if you want to reduce egg prices you have to replace all the layers that Biden ordered killed. If you start now you need 100 million fertilized eggs that have to be hatched. The chicks have to be sexed because trans chicks don't lay eggs. Hens start laying small eggs before they develop into large and extra large eggs. How long does it take to undo what Biden caused to happen?
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First, understand the data, scope and the time horizon. Second, understand the number you're referencing includes culls and natural mortality. Third, review the following and let's get into it
https://downloads.usda.library.corne...1/ckeg0225.pdf
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