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Old 01-08-2025, 04:21 PM   #1
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How do you make a caravan of foreign invaders disappear?

Threaten Mexico and they suddenly get dispersed in country.

The recent huge caravan, heading to our shores was diverted to Alacapulco, which, if you aren't aware of, NOW is a giant shit hole (Imagine that), and Mexico sent this massive caravan there.

The wonderful NEW migrants into Mexico are sleeping on the streets and preyed on, robbed, kills, rapes are occurring I'm sure, INSTEAD of the FREE LIFE they envisioned getting here, and I can't say I'm sad.

The Illegal migrants can't even buy tickets home, nobody will sell them any.

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-08-2025, 04:23 PM   #2
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The site won't let me post links to Foxnews, but heres an excerpt.

The Mexican government has embraced a policy of "dispersion and exhaustion" to reduce the number of migrants reaching the U.S. border. Authorities let migrants walk for days until they're exhausted and then offer to bus them to various cities where they say their immigration status will be reviewed.

The migrants tell The Associated Press that they accepted an offer from immigration officials to come to the city under the premise that they could continue their journey north toward the U.S. border, but instead they have essentially been abandoned there.

On Monday, desperate migrants could be seen sleeping in the streets in tents and say they fear Mexico's drug cartels could target them for kidnapping and extortion, though many migrants say authorities extort them, too.

"Immigration (officials) told us they were going to give us a permit to transit the country freely for 10, 15 days and it wasn't like that," 28-year-old Venezuelan Ender Antonio Castañeda told The Associated Press. "They left us dumped here without any way to get out. They won't sell us (bus) tickets. They won't sell us anything."
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You do know that Mexico has been breaking up caravans the entire time Trump's been out of office, right?

Good to know your take though.
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Old 01-08-2025, 05:42 PM   #4
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You do know that Mexico has been breaking up caravans the entire time Trump's been out of office, right?

Good to know your take though.
well if thatds true, mexico is about as good as breaking up caravans as the steelers are at passing on first down.......
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Old 01-08-2025, 06:01 PM   #5
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You do know that Mexico has been breaking up caravans the entire time Trump's been out of office, right?

Good to know your take though.
Link or source please.
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Old 01-08-2025, 06:02 PM   #6
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Glad to see you haven't paid much attention, either.

Do you think Trump was the reason that Mexico broke up those 2 multi-thousand caravans in Nov?

Feel like you hear the headline about caravans forming but never really pay enough attention to or follow what ultimately happen to them.

Am I right? I think I'm rthen.

Would it surprise you to know that most of them never get to our border? And most aren't that big? And most of those folks never spend a day in the U.S.?
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Glad to see you haven't paid much attention, either.

Do you think Trump was the reason that Mexico broke up those 2 multi-thousand caravans in Nov?

Feel like you hear the headline about caravans forming but never really pay enough attention to or follow what ultimately happen to them.

Am I right? I think I'm rthen.

Would it surprise you to know that most of them never get to our border? And most aren't that big? And most of those folks never spend a day in the U.S.?
Please share your fact based link or source. Would be very helpful.
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Old 01-08-2025, 06:11 PM   #8
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Link or source please.
Doesn't take much searching. Look in the CBP FAQ archives. Look at the data. Pay attention to how Obrador handled things vs. Sheinbaum. Maybe read some of the analysis on Baker or Cato. Baker breaks down caravans by number. For example, they had tracked 32 caravans as of Nov 2023.

Don't just pay attention to the headlines. You hear about 1.5k people here. 6k there. You often hear about the same caravan for months and then... very little. Why?

Sheinbaum has been very deftly breaking caravans and dispersing them all over Mexico since she took over in October without closing their southern border. How?
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Doesn't take much searching. Look in the CBP FAQ archives. Look at the data. Pay attention to how Obrador handled things vs. Sheinbaum. Maybe read some of the analysis on Baker or Cato. Baker breaks down caravans by number. For example, they had tracked 32 caravans as of Nov 2023.

Don't just pay attention to the headlines. You hear about 1.5k people here. 6k there. You often hear about the same caravan for months and then... very little. Why?

Sheinbaum has been very deftly breaking caravans and dispersing them all over Mexico since she took over in October without closing their southern border. How?
12 million illegals, or more crossed last year,they came from somewhere didn't they?

Sure the caravans didn't just split and come in anyway?

Because I don't see Mexico bitching about all the migrants staying.
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No. You're citing encounters, including immediate expulsions. Who if they showed up the next day again count as an additional encounter. It also includes individuals who never made it into the U.S.

Not a good metric.

Total # of undocumented aliens in the U.S. is right around 12 million by the best estimates.

We didn't double that up in 2024
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Old 01-08-2025, 11:23 PM   #11
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Would it surprise you to know that most of them never get to our border? And most aren't that big? And most of those folks never spend a day in the U.S.?
It's the classic "scare the racist" move. Republicans have been successful at this for decades. Nothing ever happens, but goddamn, it's always coming.

Every election year, there's a new caravan on its way. And scaredy-cat idiots everywhere always fall for it.
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Old 01-09-2025, 12:27 AM   #12
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It's the classic "scare the racist" move...
That schtick isn't working anymore, tommy. Biden let millions of unvetted migrants flood in. Then he shipped them all over the country, usually without even alerting the communities they were flown or bussed to. Now every state is a border state, thanks to Biden.

A lot of the people who are most furious about this are minorities. They've noticed their tax dollars are being siphoned off and lavished on illegals instead of being spent on the public services they expect and deserve as American citizens.

The REAL RACISTS are the libtard dems who keep shortchanging our own citizens in favor of unvetted migrants.
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Old 01-09-2025, 06:25 AM   #13
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Nice to see you say that American minorities deserve public services
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ALL taxpaying American citizens deserve efficient public services. Unlike you and tommy, I try to be colorblind about it.
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First party your statement is accurate. Second isn't.

By all means though, show me where I don't. Convincingly, not just a bunch of inference.
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