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Old 12-22-2024, 01:09 PM   #1
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Default another Trump threat..this time the Panama Canal

Our next President Mr. Trump has threatened to demand control of the Panama Canal after accusing Panama of charging excessive rates on US ships passing through.


Trump the bully. Not exactly like Mr. Trump's business dealings, where he refuses to pay back bank loans because of "predatory lending". He figured out how to threaten the banks for giving him loans.



This is what we have to look forward to for the next 4 years.


Thanks, MAGAs.
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Old 12-22-2024, 01:22 PM   #2
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When Trump physically pushed other world leaders out of the way so he could get in front of them, we should have known that he'd be trying to bully the world, too.

America first. Everyone else worst.

The leader of the free world isn't leading. And at the rate he's going, there won't be much free world left when he gets his tiny hands on it.
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Old 12-22-2024, 06:20 PM   #3
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Our next President Mr. Trump has threatened to demand control of the Panama Canal after accusing Panama of charging excessive rates on US ships passing through.


Trump the bully. Not exactly like Mr. Trump's business dealings, where he refuses to pay back bank loans because of "predatory lending". He figured out how to threaten the banks for giving him loans.



This is what we have to look forward to for the next 4 years.


Thanks, MAGAs.

Carter made a huge mistake giving up control of the Panama canal. Carter, a former Navy officer should have known the strategic importance of the canal.

now China controls it. Brilliant Jimmy!

post where Trump didn't pay back loans.


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When Trump physically pushed other world leaders out of the way so he could get in front of them, we should have known that he'd be trying to bully the world, too.

America first. Everyone else worst.

The leader of the free world isn't leading. And at the rate he's going, there won't be much free world left when he gets his tiny hands on it.

Trump is the leader of America. fuck the rest of the world.

all the rest of the "free" world wants is US tax dollars and it's partly why we are trillions in debt. the cold war ended 34 years ago. the cold war era is over. it's the America First era now.
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Pushing and shoving isn't leading.

And it durn-sure ain't the actions of an American president.

Panama basically said to go fuck ourselves. They bought the land and own it.
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Pushing and shoving isn't leading.

And it durn-sure ain't the actions of an American president.

Panama basically said to go fuck ourselves. They bought the land and own it.



they were given it by Carter the second worst president ever not named Biden. all we got in return was a neutrality promise. the French tried and failed to build the canal. the US succeeded then Jimmy Carter gave it away for nothing.
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... Ye Christ! ... Trump surely got 'imself a Christmas list:

Canada, Mexico, Greenland, and now Panama Canal area.

Reckon President Trump really wants a Global Economy! ...

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Carter made a huge mistake giving up control of the Panama canal

post where Trump didn't pay back loans.

Trump is the leader of America. fuck the rest of the world.

This is a discussion about Mr. Trump.


Trump cried "predatory lending" when he defaulted on loans from Deutsche Bank.


Trump can't lead anyone. All he can do is threaten and sue.
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This is a discussion about Mr. Trump.


Trump cried "predatory lending" when he defaulted on loans from Deutsche Bank.


Trump can't lead anyone. All he can do is threaten and sue.

this thread is about the 3 things you made it about Trump, the Panama Canal and Deutsche Bank

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Our next President Mr. Trump has threatened to demand control of the Panama Canal after accusing Panama of charging excessive rates on US ships passing through.


Trump the bully. Not exactly like Mr. Trump's business dealings, where he refuses to pay back bank loans because of "predatory lending". He figured out how to threaten the banks for giving him loans.



This is what we have to look forward to for the next 4 years.


Thanks, MAGAs.

that's what you made the thread about.
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Old 12-23-2024, 09:02 AM   #9
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Lo and behold, Trump owes millions in unpaid taxes in Panama on the hotels he operates. Does this threat suddenly make sense?

Typical Twitler bully tactics.

https://apple.news/AkpSRMXZkT0qKlztxFZm5lQ

Trump Organization accused of tax evasion in Panama: What we know
December 23, 2024

President-elect Donald Trump has started a quarrel with Panama over the fees it's charging American ships to use the Panama Canal, while the Trump Organization is fighting a court case over taxes in the central American country.

What to Know
In June 2019, the owners of a Panama City hotel that was managed by Trump's businesses, and carried the Trump brand, accused two companies, Trump Panama Hotel Management LLC and and Trump International Hotels Management LLC, of not paying taxes on their Panamanian earnings.

In a filing to the U.S. district court in New York, private equity manager Orestes Fintiklis and his company, Ithaca Capital Partners, alleged that the Trump businesses failed to pay 12.5% taxes on the millions of dollars they earned from managing the Panama City hotel. They also alleged that the Trump units failed to correctly report the number of people the hotel employed so that he could avoid Panamanian social security payments.

The filing documented how the Panamanian government later conducted a tax audit on the hotel and found major irregularities. Fintiklis and his company were forced to pay the money Trump owed, the court filing alleged.

In an updated complaint filed in the same court on March 30, 2020, Fintiklis' attorneys complained that "had Trump been honest with Ithaca about its failure to pay taxes on the management fees it earned and its failure to properly report employee salaries to Panama's social security agency, Ithaca would have never entered into the [licensing deal] because, among other things, (i) Ithaca would have recognized the significant, multi-million dollar tax penalty that could be imposed by the Panamanian government once it started auditing the Hotel; and (ii) Ithaca would have known that the representations made by Trump described above were false in that the Hotel was suffering from significant financial irregularities."

The litigation is still before the courts.

Newsweek sought comment on Monday from Fintiklis, Ithaca Capital Partners and the Trump Organization. Newsweek also contacted the Trump-Vance transition team and Panama's economy and finance ministry.

Why It Matters
The issue is important because Trump is potentially pushing the U.S towards conflict with Panama after accusing the country of financial wrongdoing.
Trump said on Sunday that the U.S. could demand the return of the Panama Canal if Panama doesn't reduce fees on U.S. goods passing through the canal.
The key waterway is crucial for the world's economy, linking the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

"The fees being charged by Panama are ridiculous, especially knowing the extraordinary generosity that has been bestowed to Panama by the U.S. This complete 'rip-off' of our Country will immediately stop," Trump wrote on his social media site, Truth Social, on Sunday.

"The United States has a vested interest in the secure, efficient, and reliable operation of the Panama Canal, and that was always understood. We would and will NEVER let it fall into the wrong hands! It was not given for the benefit of others, but merely as a token of cooperation with us and Panama," he wrote.

Panama's president, José Raúl Mulino, replied with a video posted on X: "Every square meter of the Panama Canal and its adjacent areas belong to Panama and will continue belonging to Panama."

Trump replied on Truth Social: "We'll see about that."

• Donald Trump taunts Panama: "welcome to the United States canal"

What People Are Saying

Ana Navarro Flores, a prominent Nicaraguan-American political strategist and commentator, suggested on X on Sunday that Trump is threatening to invade Panama because he still owes millions of dollars of taxes in the country.

"Now we know what the sudden threats against Panama and ownership of the Panama Canal are all about," she wrote, while linking to a 2019 ProPublica article about the hotel tax controversy.

There is currently no evidence that Trump's threats are in any way linked to the hotel court case and Trump and his representatives have not made any public statements linking the two issues.

What Happens Next

Trump is unlikely to win a dispute over the canal by invoking international law. The U.S. transferred control of the canal to Panama in 1999 as a result of a 1979 treaty under President Jimmy Carter, which Trump has denounced as "foolish."

Trump will be inaugurated on January 20 and he will then be commander in chief of the U.S. military.

Panama has vowed to defend its territory. International diplomacy will be needed if the situation is to be resolved.
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Every Canal we've been involved with has ended badly when we gave up the control of it. The US has been found a fool to think that good will and handshake deals have any validity. We should have done what the chinese did with Hong Kong. Give a lease of some term, and then take it back. The longest lease shouldn't be any longer than 2 presidential terms in case someone decides to get froggy- on either side.

The Lewinksy Canal and Monroe Canals not withstanding. Those were much shorter term leases- apparently by the hour.
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Lo and behold, Trump owes millions in unpaid taxes in Panama on the hotels he operates. Does this threat suddenly make sense?
No, but keep trying and maybe read the article first.

"There is currently no evidence that Trump's threats are in any way linked to the hotel court case and Trump and his representatives have not made any public statements linking the two issues"

LOL
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Yet!

Lack of evidence has never been an impediment to Twitler's crazy accusations and lies.

Do you actually believe the two are unrelated?

HASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !
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At least he acknowledged there have been threats made by Mr. Trump.
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Old 12-23-2024, 02:20 PM   #14
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Has anyone actually contemplated what it would mean for the US to physically take control of the Panama Canal.

It would mean the military invasion of a sovereign country by a foreign power.

We would be overthrowing a constitutionally elected government and placing a foreign country under military dictatorship.

We’re well past the age of American and European empire. We have no business creating a economic and military quagmire in Central America just to keep the ego of our president elect artificially inflated.

This entire concept is a disaster in the making. Because I can guarantee you that the Panamanian people certainly don’t want us there. That’s why we gave it back in the first place.
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Trump should dig a new canal, from the Gulf to the Pacific on the southern borders of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. Fill that fucker with piranhas and alligators. It’ll revolutionize the shipping industry and solve the border crisis in one go.
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