MAGA

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Make America Great Again


The word 'again' implies that it is not currently great.
Sure, that's fine. I can get behind that we need to improve America. Everything in the world is a work in progress.
What when they say that they want to make it great again, implies that the goal is to match a level of greatness previously reached.


When was America great?
In the 2000s when we were fighting the War on Terror, going after WMDs that didn't exist?

In the 80s and 90s when the CIA started the 'war on drugs'?
In the 70s when there was an energy crisis? Cold war against the Soviets?
In the 60s when we put a man on the moon?

In the 50s during the Jim Crow era where segregation was the norm? Where blacks in the south couldn't easily vote?

In the 40s, when America was only a fledgling Military Industrial nation? When we were at war?
20s and 30s during the great depression, where women didn't have the right to vote?
In the teens during the great war, where over 100k americans died?
Or earlier, when child labor was the norm. When the big rail monopolies basically ran the country? When slavery was legal?


Please, give context. Using the word 'again' implies you are going to do something that you did before. I'm going to see a hooker again. I'm going to watch Fox news again. I'm going to buy a 6-pack again. I'm going to work out so that I can get in shape again, like I was in my 20s, because now I'm an overweight fat fuck. All of those implied that you did that before.


When was America as great as MAGAs are wanting it to be great?


Or, now hear me out, are we just making America Great for Trump? It's very clear he doesn't give a rat bastard's ass about the country - his camp is blocking things in Washington that could help with the boarder. He outright said he wants the nation's economy to crash so that it benefits him. He doesn't pay his bills. Just sounds like he wants his brainwashed camp to make America better for him.

MABFT? Make America Better for Trump?




So please, MAGA enthusiasts, what decade are we trying to make America as great as it was?

[snoopy75]

Rent free in your head 24/7

[Yssup Rider]

It's a valid question. Rent or no rent.

I don't believe American greatness is defined by Donald Trump's marketing team or the cries of his enthralled mob.

I think America was great for varying reasons based on the time in history. And also not so great.

History may look upon the MAGA blip as the "Age of Confusion." Or the "Great American Hangover"

[tommy156]

MAGA believes America stopped being great when women and minorities started getting equal opportunities. They'd return to the 1920s, if they could. Just before women were allowed to vote. Yep, that's their "sweet spot".

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by tommy156

MAGA believes America stopped being great when women and minorities started getting equal opportunities. They'd return to the 1920s, if they could. Just before women were allowed to vote. Yep, that's their "sweet spot".

Sadly even further back than that. They would love to strip non property owners of any rights per some federalist viewpoints,- if you don't own land, you ain't shit.

"The only good amendments were 1 -5.… The rest are just there for the whiney Libs."

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Sadly even further back than that. They would love to strip non property owners of any rights per some federalist viewpoints,- if you don't own land, you ain't shit.

"The only good amendments were 1 -5.… The rest are just there for the whiney Libs."

Yep.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Sadly even further back than that. They would love to strip non property owners of any rights per some federalist viewpoints,- if you don't own land, you ain't shit.

"The only good amendments were 1 -5.… The rest are just there for the whiney Libs."

nonsense. federalists are the champions of rights. all of them. you know that Bill of Rights they wrote?

yeah they did and it's been protecting you and everyone else since for 247 years.

open yer eyes and you'll see who really wants to take away rights and it ain't the federalists

[rmg_35]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

nonsense. federalists are the champions of rights. all of them. you know that Bill of Rights they wrote?

yeah they did and it's been protecting you and everyone else since for 247 years.

open yer eyes and you'll see who really wants to take away rights and it ain't the federalists

It's the insurrectionist treasonist traitor & sexual abuser tRump, the republican party and his maga cult members that want to take away rights, especially those of women and people of color.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

nonsense. federalists are the champions of rights. all of them. you know that Bill of Rights they wrote?

yeah they did and it's been protecting you and everyone else since for 247 years.

open yer eyes and you'll see who really wants to take away rights and it ain't the federalists

If you say so.

But I don't think you realize some nuances.

The Federalists largely represented New England and Mid-Atlantic states, while the Democratic Republicans were dominant in the South. Although senators tended to vote along these party lines, they did not establish formal party organizations in the Senate.

Federalists believed in a strong central government and supported some national supervision over elections. They believed that giving state legislatures the power to regulate elections for the national government would leave the union at their mercy.
Federalists also believed that the right to vote should be limited to men with property. However, Alexander Hamilton, the first Secretary of the Treasury, argued for the advantages of the indirect electoral process described in Article II Section 1 of the Constitution. Hamilton believed this system was superior to direct popular election.

Hamilton was an asshole. He's the reason the electoral college is a sham, and that most entire states voting does not represent the actual voters, since 100% of the majority of states EC votes go to only one person vs. as the % of the voters intended. Federalist's don't trust the states- they were power hungry assholes, racists and many republicans who model themselves after that same party are just as big an asshole as Hamilton.

Essentially, Federalist's were oppressors of anyone they didn't deam worthy of voting or having a say.

And regarding the Bill of rights:The Federalists opposed including a bill of rights on the ground that it was unnecessary. The Anti-Federalists, who were afraid of a strong centralized government, refused to support the Constitution without one. In the end, popular sentiment was decisive

The only thing they did well, was to divide the power of federal government and states. But that wasn't done without a bunch of issues also.

Perhaps you are mistaken about these Federalists overall.