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Old 09-17-2011, 10:14 AM   #1
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Default What political party do you support and why?

I would like to know how you all feel on this topic and why? Should make an intersting thread....
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:39 AM   #2
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I would like to know how you all feel on this topic and why? Should make an intersting thread....
As a member of a workers union, they want us to vote democrat.

Since I'm not a lemming and I can thinck for myself, I vote for the person.

The pathetic thing about the last election is that in this great country of ours, with many brilliant people, McCain vs. Obama were our two major choices.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:54 PM   #3
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What I just posted on the atheist thread could equally well be posted here. I agree with DJ - how can the quality of candidates be improved?

Note - we have a similar problem in the UK, we now have a generation of professional politicians, the days when you had to have had good active military/business experience to be a candidate have passed long ago.
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:45 PM   #4
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I support whatever my provider supports. Spiritual harmony is the key to a good fuck.
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:55 PM   #5
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Old 09-17-2011, 04:35 PM   #6
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+1 DJ
I am conservative. More libertarian than anything.
Google economics professor Walter Williams - brilliant with a sense of humor.
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Old 09-17-2011, 05:34 PM   #7
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No service or product should be provided at the barrel of a gun.

I will never vote for another Republican nor a Democrat. They are both OWNED by the same banking interests. Makes no difference. It is a smoke screen illusion to think otherwise.

I voted Libertarian last election.Worlds Shortest Political Quiz
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THE RENT IS TO DAMN HIGH! Party.
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:41 AM   #9
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No political party. There is so much money to be made in Austin and DC by the party in power that the job of the out of power party is to get back in power, any method is acceptable and any thing goes to stay in power. There is not enough incentive for either party to "do the right thing" for the best of the nation, honesty and integrity or long gone in our political arenas, they are all beholden to monied contributors, bought and paid for.
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The pathetic thing about the last election is that in this great country of ours, with many brilliant people, McCain vs. Obama were our two major choices.
+1!!!
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:18 PM   #11
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Well from what it looks like now choices are no better. Now its either Perry or Romney both of them are pretty shit options for president. Perry would be worse then bush, mitt looks like someone years from now will be found in a restroom stall sucking off some dude. What happened to the real deal strong candidate, now all you need to do is put on your weekend cowboy outfit stand in front of a god sign and bam you're in.
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I used to be a Republican until GW Bush, now I realize both parties suck about equally, and maybe the Reps suck a little more.
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+1 DJ
I am conservative. More libertarian than anything.
Google economics professor Walter Williams - brilliant with a sense of humor.
Dr Williams is great, I'm with you there.
I also like Dr.Thomas Sowell .
I'm a Jeffersonian .
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:51 PM   #15
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There are only two political parties, one that destroys freedom and oppresses known as the Republicrats and the other party is Libertarian. I am libertarian, which means I oppose the initiation of force to achieve political or social goals. By force, that means putting you in a cage or taking your property.

Those that vote Republican or Democrat (excludes 1 or 2 candidates named Amash or Paul) are voting for big government statist oppressors to oppress the rest of us. That means you wish your thug of choice to use force against us. I like this next message from Larken Rose.

"I have a message for all the conservative Republicans out there,
sick of all the paternalistic, nanny-state, socialist garbage that
the Obama regime has been pushing--the wealth redistribution, the
attempts to nationalize various industries, the liberal tax and
spend agenda, etc. My message to all the conservative Republicans
out there who are upset by the way things are going, is this:

Serves you right, you unprincipled, hypocritical boneheads.

(As you can see, my break didn't make me any more moderate, or any
more polite.)

No, it's not that I support Obama and his collectivist agenda. It's
that I don't support his collectivist agenda or YOUR collectivist
agenda. In fact, in principle I don't see a shred of difference
between the agenda of the "R" megalomaniacal parasites and the "D"
megalomaniacal parasites. If you're a loyal Republican, you're not
actually against wealth redistribution, or nationalizing industry,
or trashing the Constitution--you just want YOUR narcissistic
crooks to be the ones doing it.

You think it's horrible for "government" to rob productive people,
to give money to those who didn't earn it? Yeah, me too. But to
pretend to be principled when whining about having to fund coerced
pseudo-charity, only to then turn around and advocate that people
be forced to fund mass murder instead (in the name of "national
security"), is the height of hypocrisy. In short, your Democrat
neighbors are merely doing to you what you want to do to them:
using the violence of the state to coerce you into supporting their
beliefs and values.

If you vote to rob your neighbor, and your neighbor votes to rob
you, and you happen to lose the contest of control-freakism, you
damn well deserve it. If you whine that you're being forced to fund
a welfare state you oppose, and then you turn around and try to
force others to fund a military empire they oppose, then you're a
coward and a hypocrite, and you don't deserve freedom. (Is that
blunt enough?) If those of you fighting over which slave-master
should own us all--Republican or Democrat--were the only ones
victimized by the statist game, I wouldn't really care. But those
few of us who actually like freedom (we're the ones that get called
"extremists") are forced to support both of the stupid statist
agendas.

If you complain about Obama trashing the Constitution, yet you
support the fascist, draconian "war on drugs" (as you swig your
beer), then you deserve the Obama administration. If you complain
about the nanny state doing their paramilitary thuggery against
producers of raw milk, organic produce, guitars (yes, guitars),
lemonade stands, and so on, and yet you support what the ICE, DHS,
TSA, and other jackboots are doing every day in the name of
"security," then you're a two-faced twit.

In short, if you refuse to allow your neighbors--all six billion of
them--to live in freedom, then you yourself deserve to be enslaved.
Republicans are not for freedom, any more than Democrats are.
Neither group of state-worshipers even understands what freedom is.
They accept a violent ruling class as a necessary and legitimate
thing, and then they bicker over the meaningless details. Instead
of opposing mass extortion in principle, they argue about who
should receive the loot. They don't oppose intrusive oppression in
principle; they just want it used in a way that fits their own
beliefs and values.

If you want me to be forced to fund your views--and if you vote
Republican or Democrat, then you do--then your values suck. You
don't love freedom or justice, or even know what those words mean.
You're nothing more than whiny slaves, asking the "massuh" to whip
the other slaves harder, and make the other slaves work longer
hours. There's nothing noble or righteous about that.

The Republican party isn't against socialism, or wealth
redistribution. Where are the "R" politicians who dare to call for
ending coercive wealth redistribution, by ENDING Social Security,
Medicare, Medicaid, AFDC, and so on? Saying that you want to slow
the rate of growth of something is not the same as opposing
something in principle! (Duh.) With the exception of Ron Paul, all
of the Republicans in Congress combined don't have enough vertebrae
amongst them to put together one spine. There is not one principle
to be found on which the Republican and Democratic establishments
disagree. Not one.

Wanting "lower taxes" means wanting LESS robbery. How about NO
robbery? Where is the Republican proposing that? (Not even Ron Paul
advocates that.) Cutting back, or at least slowing down, wealth
redistribution schemes is not the same as opposing coercive wealth
redistribution in principle. Where is the Republican who will say,
"Stealing from one to give to another is wrong"? Wanting to
forcibly meddle with some non-violent choices, and not others, is
not principled. Whining about the nanny state, while supporting the
DEA and ATF, is the sign of an unprincipled doofus. Whining about
certain examples of war-mongering, while defending others--which
both parties do--is a pretty glaring example of how unprincipled
most Americans are. This may come as a shock to you voters, but
advocating violent aggression, terrorism and mass murder is always
bad, whether it's done by your party or by the other one.

All the talking heads out there, vehemently condemning one set of
control freaks, while acting as apologists for another, are a
disgrace. The viewpoints portrayed in the media as the "far left"
and the "far right" of the political spectrum are, in principle,
the same thing. The state-approved drivel that is vomited out of
televisions and radios across the country has two very slightly
different flavors, and no principles whatsoever.

Allow me to put this in terms that a kindergartner (and hopefully
even an American voter) can comprehend: If you continually vote for
liars and crooks to infringe upon the freedom of your neighbors,
then you do not deserve, and will not have, freedom yourself. In
fact, there is only one group that is out here, not only advocating
that WE be free, but advocating that YOU be free, too. And we're
the ones you love to hate, because we don't worship the state as
you do. We are proudly and unapologetically anti-"government,"
because "government" is always anti-freedom, anti-justice and anti-
human.

Incidentally, if you ever decide to get a principle, we'd love for
you to join us. In the meantime, we'll just be annoyed that you
continue to imagine yourselves to be rational and moral, while you
beg for the mercenaries of the state to foist your bad ideas on us.
Then you whine when others do the same thing to you. Get a
principle, and give up your statism. Grow up, and act like a
thinking, responsible human being. Then you can be one of those
"fringe, kook, extremist anarchists" that the media so thoroughly
despises. (We even make Ron Paul look like a moderate ... because
he is.)"
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