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Old 10-10-2021, 10:15 AM   #1
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https://townhall.com/columnists/dere...thing-n2597204





I was a decent hockey player and an average baseball player, but there is no sporting event that exists that I don’t know exactly what the participants should have done. If they had all, and I do mean all, listened to me, they would have easily won or succeeded at whatever personal objective they were attempting to achieve. You’re probably the same way. It’s called “Monday Morning Quarterbacking” for a reason, and everyone is guilty of it. Sometimes, however, no matter how insistent the “quarterbacks” are after the fact, there really weren’t that many options at the time. You get that when the people playing quarterback never actually played football in real life.
Politics is the ultimate sport for the un-athletic. It’s really easy, there are no barriers to entry and no consequences for being wildly wrong. Opinions are, after all, like exactly what the old saying says and for that very reason.
That being said, we all do have them. And in today’s day an age, nearly everyone has a show somewhere: cable, online, radio, podcast, whatever. All of those venues are now like what opinions are like, only with more people are literally the things “everyone has.”
Watching what transpired in the fight, if you can call it that, over the debt ceiling this week, that analogy, biological obscenity and all (and especially), is appropriate. Who is “right” and who isn’t in your Monday Morning Quarterbacking depends on how deeply you want to pander and to whom. The reality, as is usually the case, is completely different.

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Blowhards insist “Mitch McConnell sold out!” It’s easy to make this claim, and there’s no real downside. Their audiences aren’t going to question them, they trust these people. That trust makes the nature of the lack of accuracy all the more problematic. I hesitate to call it a lie simply because some of these people may not know any better – in the pundit game it is much easier to be bombastic than it is to know what you’re talking about, and you’re rewarded handsomely.
So, when they say McConnell “sold out,” maybe they think he did.
And maybe he did, we’ll never really know. But there are other options to consider before jumping to the easy conclusion.
The most obvious possible alternative, and frankly the most likely, is that what McConnell did saved the filibuster, at least for now. Democrats desperately want to get rid of it, this fight would’ve been perfect cover.
Yes, Democrats could have raised the debt ceiling on their own through a reconciliation vote, but I don’t believe they wanted Republican votes to end a filibuster so they could say both sides were to blame for the trillions Democrats are looking to add to the debt.
Let me tell you why that doesn’t matter. First, so few people in Congress of either party actually care about the debt to matter, same for the public. Second, if Democrats had blown up the filibuster, which this was a tactic to do, it would have given them cover to ram through their massive “human infrastructure” bill. Hear me out on this.



Remember the nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court? Democrats had already ended the filibuster on every judicial nomination except the Supreme Court. When Gorsuch was chosen to replace Antonin Scalina, it wasn’t going to make a difference in the balance of the court. There was no reason to filibuster, there was nothing on the line. They did it anyway, knowing full-well Republicans would do what Democrats had done and gotten rid of the 60 vote threshold, which is what happened.
No one cared, and barely anyone noticed. Then came the retirement of Justice Anthony Kennedy, the ultimate “swing vote” on the court, and the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to replace him. That would impact the court, and Democrats had absolutely nothing they could to block it. They tried, but lies can’t replace procedure.
Democrats want to get rid of the filibuster, desperately, but they know if they simply do it to ram a massive entitlement program or giant spending bill the public would punish them. There’s also the problem that many of their Members are on record saying they wouldn’t get rid of the filibuster. There’s a difference if they break their word to protect the country from default and financial ruin, which they claim about the debt ceiling, and if they break it for a massive spending bill that subsidizes their donors and friends.

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By ending their filibuster on the debt limit vote, McConnell prevented Democrats from ending the filibuster for any reason other than naked politics, which is exactly what they don’t want to happen. Their cover was gone and they’d been boxed in.
When you can’t get your way, it’s best to create a scenario where your opponents have to pay the highest price possible for getting theirs. It’s the only thing that’ll give them pause, and your only remaining shot an ultimate victory.
What will Democrats do now? We don’t know. But we do know they would’ve gutted the filibuster under the guise of “saving the country from default.” With it gone, it would’ve been game on for whatever else they wanted to pass. But that dam wasn’t broken, it’s still there now. Which makes it harder and costlier politically if they do it in the future for issues that aren’t “emergency” matters.
You can hate Mitch McConnell for a lot of things, any reason you want, really, what the hell do I care? But whatever reason you want to hate him for should be based on reality. And the reality is, no matter how much blowhards whine and pander to their audiences to sounds “super conservative,” what transpired this week was the smart play. Every honest Monday Morning Quarterback knows that’s the case.


Interesting and thoughtful opinion on McConnell's action.

saving teh filibuster is likely worth it.

McConnel is , after all, a consummate politician and conservative.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:21 AM   #2
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https://library.gannon.edu/c.php?g=728528&p=5208338

If you subscribe right now, you’ll be able to read all the fake news from townhall without having to find it here on ECCIE.

Thank you for your service OP. Your work here is done.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:22 AM   #3
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Outrage of teh poor, benighted DPSTs who 'Just can't get Their Way"!!!
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:25 AM   #4
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Not outraged. Just tired, oeb. I think if someone wants to read everything that’s posted in townhall, they should subscribe for themselves and get to see the drivel of theirs you post with full html formatting rather than as a poor cut and paste job.

Much less work for you and your like minded patriotic Trumpists can nod their heads in approval without the eye strain.

Make sense?
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:26 AM   #5
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My - sensitive , triggered Sunday - isn't it.
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Old 10-10-2021, 10:34 AM   #6
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Naw. Wonder why fewer and fewer engage with you ... either side?

Except for Rex, or course.

Think about it. It’s thoroughly discussed in other circles.

Enjoy your Sunday, “doc.”

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... Nope, McConnell shit his bed. Pure and simple.

Here's one: Why won't Mitch McConnell wear a skeleton
costume to the Halloween party?

He doesn't want people to see his backbone!

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Old 10-10-2021, 10:37 AM   #8
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... Nope, McConnell shit his bed. Pure and simple.

Here's one: Why won't Mitch McConnell wear a skeleton
costume to the Halloween party?

He doesn't want people to see his backbone!

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He doesn’t have one. But he does have blue lips.
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Yes, so true.


99% of his posts are exactly the same. Then he insists anyone disagreeing with his view needs professional help, or more education.


Yawn.....
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Interesting column. While ostensibly aimed at Democratic politicians, I believe the writer is actually defending McConnell against Trump, who criticized McConnell for agreeing to a short term fix to the debt limit. Like so many Republican politicians he doesn't come right out and say it, because he doesn't want to antagonize the majority of Republicans, that is, his readers, who've had the wool pulled over their eyes by the man in Mar-a-lago.

McConnell is a shrewd and wise politician. It's unlikely that refusing to bend on the debt limit would have entirely ended the filibuster, but that's possible. And certainly there's a good chance that Sinema or Manchin would have agreed that the filibuster shouldn't apply specifically to legislation to increase the debt limit. So what's next to fall? What kind of exceptions to the filibuster would apply next? Voting "rights" intended to enable blue-state gerrymandering? A bill to admit D.C. as a state? And if Democrats weren't able to rig the system to ensure Republicans would be a permanent minority in the Senate, erosion of the filibuster would come back to bite them, just like it did with Supreme Court appointments during Trump's term in office.

And in any event McConnell's depriving the Democrats of an excuse to blame a government shut down on the Republicans.

He and the Republican Senators probably made the right decision.

It makes sense IMO to require 60 out of 100 Senators agree on legislation and appointments. This country is becoming so divided. Ending the filibuster is another step on the road to something extreme. Maybe not secession or a civil war, but something extreme.
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You mean like denying a duly elected president from having a peaceful transition of power. You mean that kind of extreme?
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You mean like denying a duly elected president from having a peaceful transition of power. You mean that kind of extreme?
That's extreme. Practically and legally, I don't think the Senate could do that.
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You mean like denying a duly elected president from having a peaceful transition of power. You mean that kind of extreme?

Trump fantasies - and Lies - 1b1
Trump left peacefully
I suspect the DPSTs will do their best to use the military to ensure their power in perpetuity
And forcibly retain teh Oval office in jan 2025.

And - the new 'woke' military top brass might just oblige the DPST racist communists with that support - seditious though it be!


Buck fiden
From my cold dead hands


If you think fiden is bad - harris - a radical vicious marxist race-baiter - will be much , much worse

Both incompetent - and a marxist ideologue.

She is POISON for American Peoples
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Trump fantasies - and Lies - 1b1
Trump left peacefully
I suspect the DPSTs will do their best to use the military to ensure their power in perpetuity
And forcibly retain teh Oval office in jan 2025.

And - the new 'woke' military top brass might just oblige the DPST racist communists with that support - seditious though it be!


Buck fiden
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If you think fiden is bad - harris - a radical vicious marxist race-baiter - will be much , much worse

Both incompetent - and a marxist ideologue.

She is POISON for American Peoples
Interpreter please
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That's extreme. Practically and legally, I don't think the Senate could do that.
Not nearly as difficult as you believe.
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