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Old 07-21-2021, 11:46 PM   #1
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Default Peru is the latest country to experiment with socialism

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Peru is the latest country to experiment with socialism
by Rainer Zitelmann
| July 20, 2021 12:48 PM

In the past 100 years, there have been attempts to build socialist societies in at least 24 countries around the world. Soviet socialism was different than the socialism in China, Yugoslavian socialism was different than socialism in Cuba, North Korea was different than Vietnam, and Albania was different than the German Democratic Republic. Without exception, every single socialist experiment has ended in failure.

But socialism, declared dead after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc countries in the early 1990s, is now experiencing a renaissance in many countries. In Peru, Pedro Castillo, leader of the Marxist-Leninist Peru Libre party, has now been elected president by a narrow majority.

The party describes itself as “a left-wing socialist organization” that embraces Marxism and Leninism. Castillo has said that he opposes communism, but that is in no way unusual. After 24 disastrous socialist experiments, modern socialists want to distance themselves from the failures of the past — failures that have been responsible for the deaths of more than 100 million people.

Initially, Peru Libre’s goals included the nationalization of mines, gas, oil, hydroelectricity, and telecommunications in order to fund social programs. However, in an attempt to appease foreign business interests, Peru’s new president has promised that his government will not nationalize industry within Peru.

This is all very reminiscent of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. Chavez, who came to power in 1999, also started out by declaring that he would respect private property rights and never “expropriate anything from anyone.” Before the election, he surprisingly portrayed himself as a friend of foreign investors and of Western values in general. At the time, the British social democrat Tony Blair was popular on the international stage, and Chavez proclaimed himself to be the “Tony Blair of the Caribbean.”

I live in Germany, where a socialist dictatorship was established in the country’s eastern regions in the wake of the Second World War. It was at that time that the Communist Party of Germany affirmed in its manifesto of June 11, 1945: “We are of the opinion that forcing the Soviet system onto Germany would be the false path … Rather, we are of the opinion that the most compelling interests of the German people in the present situation call for Germany to take a different path, the path of establishing an anti-fascist, democratic regime, a parliamentary, democratic republic with all the democratic rights and liberties for the people.” In the years that followed, however, the GDR’s rulers did precisely the opposite: Under the pretext of anti-fascism, land and the essential means of production were nationalized, and, as a result, a dictatorship modeled on the Soviet Union was established.

Every new socialist experiment is enthusiastically greeted by intellectuals, as Kristian Niemietz confirms in his book Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies. It was the same with Josef Stalin as it was with Mao Zedong. And after Chavez was elected president of Venezuela, leading intellectuals and leftist politicians across Europe and the United States praised Venezuela as a model of “socialism of the 21st century.” This sounded seductive because it allowed them to distance themselves from the miserable failures of socialism in the 20th century. But socialism also failed dismally in the world’s most oil-rich country. Today, the inflation rate in Venezuela is higher than in any other country in the world, and more than 10% of the country’s population has fled.

After the collapse of the Venezuelan experiment, socialists initially fell silent. Then, they claimed that the U.S. boycott was to blame, or they explained that Nicolas Maduro had unfortunately abandoned Chavez’s correct path. Incidentally, their main argument is now that Venezuela was never a truly socialist country after all and that the country’s failures cannot, therefore, be blamed on socialism.

Socialists are counting on the fact that most people know very little about history and the extreme poverty and inhumane conditions in which our ancestors lived before capitalism emerged. And they are confident that a vast majority of students in schools and colleges will hear almost nothing about the inhumane conditions under socialism. But the fact that every single anti-capitalist system without exception has ended in failure is a truth socialists are not willing to accept. In Castillo, a socialist has once again been elected on claims that after 100 years of failed socialist experiments, he has finally found the right recipe for how socialism can work after all.

Rainer Zitelmann holds doctorates in history and sociology and is the author of The Power of Capitalism.
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Old 07-21-2021, 11:48 PM   #2
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some people never learn. peru elected a commie president. they'll be like venezeuala in 10 years.
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Some people never learn the difference between Socialism and Communism
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some people never learn. peru elected a commie president. they'll be like venezeuala in 10 years.
Shit probably 10 months.
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Some people never learn the difference between Socialism and Communism
Neither one is fit for America so it doesn't matter. If you want to live in Socialism Peru has openings.
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Neither one is fit for America so it doesn't matter. If you want to live in Socialism Peru has openings.
Who said anything about America?
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All Socialist or Communist Systems will sooner or later turn into a “Thugocracy”, where the final solution to keeping the citizens in line is……”put them against the wall”.
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Neither one is fit for America so it doesn't matter. If you want to live in Socialism Peru has openings.
You realize America has plenty of socialism. Medicaid, SSDI, corporate tax breaks, corporate grants, welfare, tax incentives, food stamps, etc. all of those are socialism right here in the good ole USA.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you have benefitted from good ole USA socialism. I’m sure you’d never admit to it but I wouldn’t be shocked.
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Who said anything about America?
You voted for Biden.
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You can say it a thousand more times!

Two sides of same coin.
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Who said anything about America?
The Democratic Party.
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You realize America has plenty of socialism. Medicaid, SSDI, corporate tax breaks, corporate grants, welfare, tax incentives, food stamps, etc. all of those are socialism right here in the good ole USA.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you have benefitted from good ole USA socialism. I’m sure you’d never admit to it but I wouldn’t be shocked.
America isn't a Socialist Country, yet anyway. Those are Social programs so what.
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Lol. Distinction without a difference.

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Good for them Just one more sacrifice to global uniformity
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Lol. Distinction without a difference.
America's form of Government is a Constitutional Republic. Our form of Economy is actually mixed Capitalism and Socialism. But America is essentially a Capitalistic Society. Some Countries such as Sweden and other Scandinavian Countries seem to do pretty well under Democratic Socialism in part due to their low population and culture.
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