Meanwhile, in Chicago.....

[Jackie S]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...lence-homicide

And the beat goes on.

[randy.creed77]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...lence-homicide

And the beat goes on.

2020 - 769 homicides 585 blacks, 41 white the rest other
Right now we are 20 homicides ahead of last years count at this time

[GastonGlock]

This is my go-to for Chicago crime statistics. I recommend bookmarking it.

the telling thing about the shootings in Chicago every weekend aren't the number of people shot, but other things:

1.) number of actual fatalities: usually single digits. So even in bad neighborhoods, people are able to get emergency help in a timely matter, with 4 out of 10 shots landing below the waist. (The infograph sit above even counts people shot in the ass or the dick).

2.) in my mind, the most telling statistic: number of arrests - 0. Always almost 0 unless they can get security camera footage from something. Because the community doesn't want to work with police. It's an endless cycle of gang violence and revenge.

[dreamvacationdates]

Don't worry some white boy somewhere will shoot up a bunch of people in the next few days and cause a mass murder event.
Now say it ain't so

[rexdutchman]

Progressive liberal run cities ,,,,,,,,

[randy.creed77]

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

Don't worry some white boy somewhere will shoot up a bunch of people in the next few days and cause a mass murder event.
Now say it ain't so

No doubt it will

And how many of those will be because the FBI or local police didn’t follow up(Parkland & Colorado)
Or because the “background check” wasn’t updated(California)
Or the perpetrator was so harassed he finally “broke”
Or because the current gun laws aren’t enforced

Even though the next “mass murder” event will likely be smaller in numbers to what happen on a slow week in Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Houston, LA, St Louis, Dallas, KC, Indianapolis 2,757+ total in 2020. What is that average per week? 53 per week


And that's only 10 cities in this country

[rexdutchman]

Mass is now 2 or more sooo , ^^ but the LSM will not point out what you said against the narrative of guns bad , Kinda like fly's cause garbage

[dreamvacationdates]

Originally Posted by randy.creed77

No doubt it will

And how many of those will be because the FBI or local police didn’t follow up(Parkland & Colorado)
Or because the “background check” wasn’t updated(California)
Or the perpetrator was so harassed he finally “broke”
Or because the current gun laws aren’t enforced

Even though the next “mass murder” event will likely be smaller in numbers to what happen on a slow week in Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Houston, LA, St Louis, Dallas, KC, Indianapolis 2,757+ total in 2020. What is that average per week? 53 per week


And that's only 10 cities in this country

So how many times has it been in the last two months, and the week not over yet.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

Don't worry some white boy somewhere will shoot up a bunch of people in the next few days and cause a mass murder event.
Now say it ain't so

Yes, it will happen but not every week end in every major city in this country and usually not a number to exceed that number in Chicago, Baltimore and other cities run by Democrat's on any given week-end, which is the point of any honest discussion on this subject.


If one wanted to be a fair, rational person, just ask yourself, if you had the power to eliminate the deaths of Blacks at the hands of police or eliminate the deaths of Blacks at the hands of other Blacks, which would you prefer? If you had the power, where would you put your resources? Where would your rhetoric be aimed so that it might mitigate one situation or the other?


Right now, give or take, there have been approximately 15 deaths of so called unarmed Blacks at the hands of police. Here is a recent headline disputing the number of 8 as suggested by "Conservatives". This writer was incensed that the number was so low. What was the "more accurate" number?


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...19/5322455002/

the Post's database shows police fatally shot 13 unarmed black men in 2019, not eight.

And we are supposed to believe that this is Genocide? That police all over this country go out everyday looking for unarmed Blacks to shoot or choke to death?

Black Americans make up 13% of the population “but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans,” as the Post reported.

Perhaps that is because Blacks, young Black males to be more precise, that make up less than 6% of that 13%, commit somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% of the violent crime in this country. It is intellectually dishonest to quote one statistic and not the other which is what the Left does in every one of these discussions.


We hear that cops"target Blacks" but do not target Whites. Where are police dispatched to if not more Black and Brown neighborhoods where they will encounter more Black and Brown people than Whites. Police go to these neighborhoods for a reason. That reason is because, that is where the crime is taking place. Another statistic the Democrat party and MSM fail to talk about. You want less shootings of Blacks by cops? Stop the crime in Black neighborhoods and there will be no reason for cops to go there.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by GastonGlock

This is my go-to for Chicago crime statistics. I recommend bookmarking it.

.....

2.) in my mind, the most telling statistic: number of arrests - 0. Always almost 0 unless they can get security camera footage from something. Because the community doesn't want to work with police. It's an endless cycle of gang violence and revenge.

Thanks for the link. Police don't want to go into the area because they'll get shot at. Since they can't shoot back without starting an international incident, why bother? Similar problem with EMTs and Fire.

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

Don't worry some white boy somewhere will shoot up a bunch of people in the next few days and cause a mass murder event.
Now say it ain't so

In case you haven't noticed, non-white males are getting into the act.

Originally Posted by randy.creed77

No doubt it will

And how many of those will be because the FBI or local police didn’t follow up(Parkland & Colorado)
Or because the “background check” wasn’t updated(California)
Or the perpetrator was so harassed he finally “broke”
Or because the current gun laws aren’t enforced

Even though the next “mass murder” event will likely be smaller in numbers to what happen on a slow week in Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Houston, LA, St Louis, Dallas, KC, Indianapolis 2,757+ total in 2020. What is that average per week? 53 per week


And that's only 10 cities in this country

Is this the poster formerly known as RandallCreed?

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

....
Right now, give or take, there have been approximately 15 deaths of so called unarmed Blacks at the hands of police. Here is a recent headline disputing the number of 8 as suggested by "Conservatives". This writer was incensed that the number was so low. What was the "more accurate" number?....

Perhaps that is because Blacks, young Black males to be more precise, that make up less than 6% of that 13%, commit somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% of the violent crime in this country. It is intellectually dishonest to quote one statistic and not the other which is what the Left does in every one of these discussions.


We hear that cops"target Blacks" but do not target Whites. Where are police dispatched to if not more Black and Brown neighborhoods where they will encounter more Black and Brown people than Whites. Police go to these neighborhoods for a reason. That reason is because, that is where the crime is taking place. Another statistic the Democrat party and MSM fail to talk about. You want less shootings of Blacks by cops? Stop the crime in Black neighborhoods and there will be no reason for cops to go there.

The issue is blacks aren't getting killed by cops because of systemic racism. The MSM at the Dims direction is just using them as clickbait.

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Thanks for the link. Police don't want to go into the area because they'll get shot at. Since they can't shoot back without starting an international incident, why bother? Similar problem with EMTs and Fire.

nah, it's not like it was in the late 80's to mid-90's. If Cabrini Green were still around, I'd agree with you. Cops are able to get in and get EMT's in to get people out. The cops make heavy use of those gunshot detectors/locators that they started using 20 years ago in Iraq and Afghanistan. Problem is when they go to Stroeger Hospital to talk to the victims, they just say it's a black or latino guy that shot them and that they don't know anything else.

[randy.creed77]

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

So how many times has it been in the last two months, and the week not over yet.

Well since you asked , California, Colorado, South Carolina, New Orleans and Houston weren't some "white boy" So I guess that leaves Indianapolis and Atlanta. About 18-20 victims. That is less than 53 times 2 isn't it

[the_real_Barleycorn]

The left believe stupid, made up numbers from MSM. Bill Maher pointed out that 70% of liberals think that the hospitalization rate for Covid is over 50% instead 5-7%. They also think the death rate is 10 times higher than reality. Same is true of police shootings, non-violent protests, and mass shootings.

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

The left believe stupid, made up numbers from MSM. Bill Maher pointed out that 70% of liberals think that the hospitalization rate for Covid is over 50% instead 5-7%. They also think the death rate is 10 times higher than reality. Same is true of police shootings, non-violent protests, and mass shootings.

Life's a bitch when you grow up in the suburbs insulated from real problems and think the shit you see on twitter is real life. Since you lack real problems, you make some up, like feeling oppressed or offended for other people, making up genders and pronouns, having a PTSD freakout when you see your own genitals, etc.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

The left believe stupid, made up numbers from MSM. Bill Maher pointed out that 70% of liberals think that the hospitalization rate for Covid is over 50% instead 5-7%. They also think the death rate is 10 times higher than reality. Same is true of police shootings, non-violent protests, and mass shootings.

Here is more evidence of that.

https://justthenews.com/nation/crime...ng-young-black

Survey shows blacks wildly overestimate frequency of police fatally shooting young black men

White Trump voters most likely to correctly state that traffic deaths are higher

Public interest in the Derek Chauvin trial is likely influenced by the widespread belief that police killings of young black men are common.
But most Americans wildly overestimate how often this happens, and how wrong they are is closely connected to their political beliefs, according to a recent study.
Traffic accidents kill about 23 in 100,000 men ages 25-29, with a slightly higher rate for blacks relative to whites. This is at least five times higher than police killings of black men of the same age, using any method of force.

Eight in 10 black survey respondents said they believe young black men are more likely to die in police shootings than in traffic accidents. (The black rate of deaths by police is three times higher than for whites, however.)

Blacks who voted for President Donald Trump in 2020 were far less likely to wrongly believe that police shootings claim more young black lives than traffic accidents, though most of them (53%) still incorrectly guessed, showing this belief is "not simply a function of ideology." Among those who voted for Joe Biden, 81% were wrong.
The demographic closest to getting the answer right was white Trump voters, only 15% of whom incorrectly believed police shootings killed more young black men. For white Biden voters, the figure was 53%, and about 10 points higher for highly educated liberal whites.

The surveys were conducted in November and December and disclosed in a report on "The Social Construction of Racism in the United States" by University of London politics professor Eric Kaufmann. He obtained his data on police killings and traffic deaths from science journals and a highway insurance nonprofit.
Kaufmann found that ideology, presidential vote and view on whether "white Republicans are racist" had an even greater effect than race on a person's answer to the question.
Unusually, education level made virtually no difference in how black respondents answered: 78% of non-college graduates and 76% of college graduates said police shootings killed more young black men than traffic accidents.


White (70%) and black (95%) respondents who agreed "white Republicans are racist" were the farthest off. Kaufmann said his findings are in line with a recent survey series by the Skeptic Research Center, which found "very liberal" Americans believed police killed at least 1,000 unarmed black men in 2019 — "a likely error of at least an order of magnitude."
Black Biden voters, meanwhile, were twice as likely as black Trump voters to say they experienced more racism under the Trump administration than under President Obama. Black Trump voters reported "a consistent level of racism" under the two administrations.

This particular survey, conducted right after the November election, was designed to catch voters who gave different answers to the same question after "partisan prompts."
The first question about racism asked black respondents how often they experienced it "in your daily life." About a third of each candidate's voters said they experienced racism at least monthly.
“Much later in the 80-question” survey, Kaufmann asked how often they experienced racism in their daily lives in the Obama versus Trump administrations. Biden voters, "the vast majority" of the sample, were now twice as likely to report monthly racism under Trump (42%) as under Obama (21%).

"The fact that Biden but not Trump voters deviated from their initial answer (when neither Trump nor Obama was mentioned) suggests that Democrats are largely responsible for changing their answers in response to partisan cues," the report said.
The black respondents who agreed "white Republicans are racist" were also three times likelier (56%) to say they experienced racism under Trump than those who disagreed.