Mar-a-Lago neighbors to Trump: Spend your post-presidency elsewhere

[Munchmasterman]

Mar-a-Lago neighbors are tired of trump too.

Next-door neighbors of Mar-a-Lago, President Trump’s private club in Palm Beach, Fla., that he has called his Winter White House, have a message for the outgoing commander in chief: We don’t want you to be our neighbor.
That message was formally conveyed Tuesday morning in a demand letter delivered to the town of Palm Beach and also addressed to the U.S. Secret Service asserting that Trump lost his legal right to live at Mar-a-Lago because of an agreement he signed in the early 1990s when he converted the storied estate from his private residence to a private club. The legal maneuver could, at long last, force Palm Beach to publicly address whether Trump can make Mar-a-Lago his legal residence and home, as he has been expected to do when he becomes an ex-president after the swearing-in of Joe Biden onJan. 20.
The contretemps sets up a potentially awkward scenario, unique in recent history, in which a former Oval Office occupant would find himself having to officially defend his choice of a place to live during his post-presidency. It also could create a legal headache for Trump because he changed his official domicile to Mar-a-Lago, leaving behind Manhattan, where he lived before being elected president and before his fame as a brash, self-promoting developer. (Trump originally tried to register to vote in Florida using the White House in Washington as his address, which is not allowed under Florida law. He later changed the registration to the Mar-a-Lago address.)

In the demand letter, obtained by The Washington Post, a lawyer for the Mar-a-Lago neighbors says the town should notify Trump that he cannot use Mar-a-Lago as his residence. Making that notification would “avoid an embarrassing situation” if the outgoing president moves to the club and later has to be ordered to leave, according to the letter sent on behalf of the neighbors, the DeMoss family, which runs an international missionary foundation.
For years, various neighbors have raised concerns about disruptions, such as clogged traffic and blocked streets, caused by the president’s frequent trips to the club. Even before he was president, Trump created ill will in the town by refusing to comply with even basic local requirements, such as adhering to height limits for a massive flagpole he installed, and frequently attempting to get out of the promises he had made when he converted Mar-a-Lago into a private club.
“There’s absolutely no legal theory under which he can use that property as both a residence and a club,” said Glenn Zeitz, another nearby Palm Beach homeowner who has joined the fight against Trump and hadpreviously tangled with him over Trump’s attempt to seize a private home to expand his Atlantic City casino. “Basically he’s playing a dead hand. He’s not going to intimidate or bluff people, because we’re going to be there.”
A White House spokesperson and Palm Beach’s mayor did not respond to requests for comment. To date, Palm Beach has made no public attempt to prevent Trump from living at Mar-a-Lago or from using it as his legal residence.
“There is no document or agreement in place that prohibits President Trump from using Mar-a-Lago as his residence,” said a Trump business organization spokesman who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about a legal issue.

The current residency controversy tracks back to a deal Trump cut in 1993 when his finances were foundering and the cost of maintaining Mar-a-Lago was soaring into the multimillions each year. Under the agreement, club members are banned from spending more than 21 days a year in the club’s guest suites and cannot stay there for any longer than seven consecutive days. Before the arrangement was sealed, a Trump attorney assured the town council in a public meeting that his client would not live at Mar-a-Lago.
At the time, the town’s leaders were wary of Trump because he had sued them after they blocked his attempt to subdivide the historic Mar-a-Lago property into multiple housing lots. Placing the limitations on lengths of stays ensured that Trump’s property would remain a private club, as he had promised, rather than a residential hotel.
Trump tried to register in Florida using an out-of-state address
Documents obtained by The Post via a public records request suggest there may be gaps in Palm Beach’s enforcement of key provisions of the agreement that could affect Trump’s ability to live at the club. Each year, the club is required to report whether at least 50 percent of Mar-a-Lago’s members live or work in Palm Beach; that the club has fewer than 500 members; and that no one is using the guest suites more than 21 days a year. However, the town says it has no records of the reports for four of the past 20 years.
Trump has repeatedly attempted to change parts of his agreement. In 2018 he asked the town to waive a provision banning him from building a dock at the club, initially saying the Secret Service and local law enforcement officials needed the structure for his protection. The reasoning was later changed to say the dock was for the private use of the president and first lady Melania Trump. Neighbors feared that the dock would be used for rowdy booze cruises. Trump withdrew the dock request early this year — three days after a Washington Post report that unearthed the details of his 1993 agreement with the town.

Trump has traveled to Mar-a-Lago at least 30 times during his presidency, and spent at least 130 days there, according to a Post tally. There has been no public indication that the town has raised objections about that practice. Trump also has appeared to openly flout the agreement, stating on Mar-a-Lago’s website that he maintains private quarters there.
During his presidency, Palm Beach has shown deference on security issues, allowing a helipad that was expressly prohibited in his 1993 agreement. Once Trump leaves office, he will no longer have use of the helipad.
The 1993 Palm Beach agreement isn’t the only document that raises questions about whether Trump can legally live at Mar-a-Lago. He also signed a document deeding development rights for Mar-a-Lago to the National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Washington-based, privately funded nonprofit organization that works to save historic sites around the country. As part of the National Trust deal, Trump agreed to “forever” relinquish his rights to develop Mar-a-Lago or to use it for “any purpose other than club use.”
The National Trust did not respond to requests for comment.
Trump made Florida his official residence. He may also have made a legal mess
The controversy over Trump’s expected move to Mar-a-Lago could muddy matters for the Secret Service, which will continue to protect him after he leaves office. Government agencies take pains to comply with all federal and local laws in their activities, and a legal dispute over Trump’s right to set up residence at Mar-a-Lago could complicate the Secret Service’s ongoing work to prepare for staff to secure his home and safety there.

A Secret Service spokesperson declined to comment.
Since this year’s election, the Secret Service has been preparing for Trump’s life after the White House and the protections he is legally due as a former president. A much-reduced set of Secret Service agents will shadow him in his private life, and the agency will occupy a separate room at his property as a base of security operations.
The protective service would need to make living arrangements for its agents in advance of Trump’s leaving the White House — wherever he ends up living. If he is suddenly blocked from living at Mar-a-Lago, the Secret Service would most likely have to scramble to develop a new plan to protect him at a different location.
The Mar-a-Lago neighbors would be okay with Trump’s finding a new place to bunk. Their letter, written by West Palm Beach attorney Reginald Stambaugh, includes a zinger that harks to the vibe of the old-money enclave on Florida’s east coast: “Palm Beach has many lovely estates for sale, and we are confident President Trump will find one which meets his needs.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...781_story.html

[oeb11]

And - More hatred from the DPST ideologically subservient segment of the acolyte/minions.
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[matchingmole]

Originally Posted by oeb11

And - More hatred from the DPST ideologically subservient segment of the acolyte/minions.
Remember - go and get One's Trump Vaccine!!!
Thank u for your contribution .

teh

[winn dixie]

Who cares what they think! Im sure the op has neighbors that wish he/she? didnt live where you live!

I say tough shit! This is still murica!

[1blackman1]

He’s about to get into a contract fight with real billionaires. This’ll be funny. They are gonna sue him outta the neighborhood. He signed a contract with his Maralogo purchase saying no one can stay there (including himself) more than 21 days a year or 7 days consecutively.

This I’ll watch.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

He’s about to get into a contract fight with real billionaires. This’ll be funny. They are gonna sue him outta the neighborhood. He signed a contract with his Maralogo purchase saying no one can stay there (including himself) more than 21 days a year or 7 days consecutively.

This I’ll watch.

You'll watch? Why? Because of pure hatred! Why are dims so obsessed with Trump?

[Lucas McCain]

His neighbors are rich retirees. They want to live in peace and quiet. You can't blame them for not wanting the shit show that Trump will bring to the neighborhood. Trump is all drama. Those rich people want no part of that. They just want to live in peace and not deal with Trump's silly nonstop bullshit. I don't blame them.

Who the fuck wants news crews running around your neighborhood because you have a loser like Trump living there?

[Munchmasterman]

It's that simple. They don't want all the bullshit that trump will bring with him.

Typical of trumpys, they can't stay focused long enough to read a whole article.
If they had read the article they would see why trump won't be living there.
They covered all the bases in the contracts trump signed.
trump has a 30+ year history of cheating contractors (you know, the little people), bankruptcies (with OPM), lawsuits against him, breaking contracts, etc. He was a scumbag long before he was a presidential scumbag.
This is a case Rudy can't win and trump has nowhere near the resources the City of Pebble Beach and the club members have. trump won't risk losing a court battle over where he can live (the same old "guy from Queens trying to make it in Manhattan but can't").

The saddest thing is the inability of the trumpys to see while blinded by a guy who has more contempt for the base than I do.
I wish life was as simple as the simple minded claim it to be. I don't have the victim mentality needed to be a trumpy or make 25-35 posts per day on this site

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

His neighbors are rich retirees. They want to live in peace and quiet. You can't blame them for not wanting the shit show that Trump will bring to the neighborhood. Trump is all drama. Those rich people want no part of that. They just want to live in peace and not deal with Trump's silly nonstop bullshit. I don't blame them.

Who the fuck wants news crews running around your neighborhood because you have a loser like Trump living there?

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

Mar-a-Lago neighbors are tired of trump too.

Next-door neighbors of Mar-a-Lago, President Trump’s private club in Palm Beach, Fla., that he has called his Winter White House, have a message for the outgoing commander in chief: We don’t want you to be our neighbor.
That message was formally conveyed Tuesday morning in a demand letter delivered to the town of Palm Beach and also addressed to the U.S. Secret Service asserting that Trump lost his legal right to live at Mar-a-Lago because of an agreement he signed in the early 1990s when he converted the storied estate from his private residence to a private club. The legal maneuver could, at long last, force Palm Beach to publicly address whether Trump can make Mar-a-Lago his legal residence and home, as he has been expected to do when he becomes an ex-president after the swearing-in of Joe Biden onJan. 20.
The contretemps sets up a potentially awkward scenario, unique in recent history, in which a former Oval Office occupant would find himself having to officially defend his choice of a place to live during his post-presidency. It also could create a legal headache for Trump because he changed his official domicile to Mar-a-Lago, leaving behind Manhattan, where he lived before being elected president and before his fame as a brash, self-promoting developer. (Trump originally tried to register to vote in Florida using the White House in Washington as his address, which is not allowed under Florida law. He later changed the registration to the Mar-a-Lago address.)

In the demand letter, obtained by The Washington Post, a lawyer for the Mar-a-Lago neighbors says the town should notify Trump that he cannot use Mar-a-Lago as his residence. Making that notification would “avoid an embarrassing situation” if the outgoing president moves to the club and later has to be ordered to leave, according to the letter sent on behalf of the neighbors, the DeMoss family, which runs an international missionary foundation.
For years, various neighbors have raised concerns about disruptions, such as clogged traffic and blocked streets, caused by the president’s frequent trips to the club. Even before he was president, Trump created ill will in the town by refusing to comply with even basic local requirements, such as adhering to height limits for a massive flagpole he installed, and frequently attempting to get out of the promises he had made when he converted Mar-a-Lago into a private club.
“There’s absolutely no legal theory under which he can use that property as both a residence and a club,” said Glenn Zeitz, another nearby Palm Beach homeowner who has joined the fight against Trump and hadpreviously tangled with him over Trump’s attempt to seize a private home to expand his Atlantic City casino. “Basically he’s playing a dead hand. He’s not going to intimidate or bluff people, because we’re going to be there.”
A White House spokesperson and Palm Beach’s mayor did not respond to requests for comment. To date, Palm Beach has made no public attempt to prevent Trump from living at Mar-a-Lago or from using it as his legal residence.
“There is no document or agreement in place that prohibits President Trump from using Mar-a-Lago as his residence,” said a Trump business organization spokesman who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about a legal issue.

The current residency controversy tracks back to a deal Trump cut in 1993 when his finances were foundering and the cost of maintaining Mar-a-Lago was soaring into the multimillions each year. Under the agreement, club members are banned from spending more than 21 days a year in the club’s guest suites and cannot stay there for any longer than seven consecutive days. Before the arrangement was sealed, a Trump attorney assured the town council in a public meeting that his client would not live at Mar-a-Lago.
At the time, the town’s leaders were wary of Trump because he had sued them after they blocked his attempt to subdivide the historic Mar-a-Lago property into multiple housing lots. Placing the limitations on lengths of stays ensured that Trump’s property would remain a private club, as he had promised, rather than a residential hotel.
Trump tried to register in Florida using an out-of-state address
Documents obtained by The Post via a public records request suggest there may be gaps in Palm Beach’s enforcement of key provisions of the agreement that could affect Trump’s ability to live at the club. Each year, the club is required to report whether at least 50 percent of Mar-a-Lago’s members live or work in Palm Beach; that the club has fewer than 500 members; and that no one is using the guest suites more than 21 days a year. However, the town says it has no records of the reports for four of the past 20 years.
Trump has repeatedly attempted to change parts of his agreement. In 2018 he asked the town to waive a provision banning him from building a dock at the club, initially saying the Secret Service and local law enforcement officials needed the structure for his protection. The reasoning was later changed to say the dock was for the private use of the president and first lady Melania Trump. Neighbors feared that the dock would be used for rowdy booze cruises. Trump withdrew the dock request early this year — three days after a Washington Post report that unearthed the details of his 1993 agreement with the town.

Trump has traveled to Mar-a-Lago at least 30 times during his presidency, and spent at least 130 days there, according to a Post tally. There has been no public indication that the town has raised objections about that practice. Trump also has appeared to openly flout the agreement, stating on Mar-a-Lago’s website that he maintains private quarters there.
During his presidency, Palm Beach has shown deference on security issues, allowing a helipad that was expressly prohibited in his 1993 agreement. Once Trump leaves office, he will no longer have use of the helipad.
The 1993 Palm Beach agreement isn’t the only document that raises questions about whether Trump can legally live at Mar-a-Lago. He also signed a document deeding development rights for Mar-a-Lago to the National Trust for Historic Preservation, a Washington-based, privately funded nonprofit organization that works to save historic sites around the country. As part of the National Trust deal, Trump agreed to “forever” relinquish his rights to develop Mar-a-Lago or to use it for “any purpose other than club use.”
The National Trust did not respond to requests for comment.
Trump made Florida his official residence. He may also have made a legal mess
The controversy over Trump’s expected move to Mar-a-Lago could muddy matters for the Secret Service, which will continue to protect him after he leaves office. Government agencies take pains to comply with all federal and local laws in their activities, and a legal dispute over Trump’s right to set up residence at Mar-a-Lago could complicate the Secret Service’s ongoing work to prepare for staff to secure his home and safety there.

A Secret Service spokesperson declined to comment.
Since this year’s election, the Secret Service has been preparing for Trump’s life after the White House and the protections he is legally due as a former president. A much-reduced set of Secret Service agents will shadow him in his private life, and the agency will occupy a separate room at his property as a base of security operations.
The protective service would need to make living arrangements for its agents in advance of Trump’s leaving the White House — wherever he ends up living. If he is suddenly blocked from living at Mar-a-Lago, the Secret Service would most likely have to scramble to develop a new plan to protect him at a different location.
The Mar-a-Lago neighbors would be okay with Trump’s finding a new place to bunk. Their letter, written by West Palm Beach attorney Reginald Stambaugh, includes a zinger that harks to the vibe of the old-money enclave on Florida’s east coast: “Palm Beach has many lovely estates for sale, and we are confident President Trump will find one which meets his needs.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...781_story.html

The article came from the Washington Post so it's total bullshit.

[dilbert firestorm]

don't know too much about real estate laws of florida. do these people have a legal case to kick trump off of his property?

[1blackman1]

His contract at purchase stated that no one can stay at the property more than 21 days per year. So he is contractually bound not to reside there. His ownership is irrelevant in whether he can breach the contractual terms.

That said, it’s possible that waiver could be brought up as a defense because I’m sure that in prior years he’s exceeded the 21 days, particularly over the past 4 years but that’s something to litigate. Regardless, his neighbors and the city are actual rich folks and they can pool massive resources in this suit if they really want him gone.

The city can lien his property, revert the purchase and even possibly make it difficult for club members to make use of their membership which would financially hurt Trump and possibly get him sued by club members for their fees.

[Yssup Rider]

Apparently none of you Trumpists have any clue or respect for contractual agreements.

That’s all this is.

Why is anybody surprised that Trump would try to circumvent a contract by ignoring it?

Why is anybody surprised that the remnants of the Turd Reich would believe that Trump ever intended to keep his promise. After all, his record in the department is so stellar!

Explain how this is “Trump hatred,” not to be confused with rule of law? (That’s the real Trump hatred - he HATES that he’s required to follow it.)

[rexdutchman]

TDS is real

[1blackman1]

Not TDS. That’s just the sensational part. It’s actually an interesting legal case that will hopefully involve some actuall lawyering. To date Trump hasn’t had that on his side. Maybe he’ll retain Barr.

[oeb11]

obo - as per usual- is totally under the spell of DPST/LSM propaganda.
Obo- show the contract - a real estate contract is public record - so prove your spurious point with a concrete reference - or realize that You are simply under the spell of XiNN and propaganda.

Includes the WAPO - which is dedicated propaganda arm of Comrade Xi!!


a shame to waste One's life kow-towing to the Lies of Comrade Xi and the LSM and DNC.