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Old 07-24-2020, 03:06 PM   #1
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Default NYT Reports "Vehicle Not Of This Earth" Found

https://www.foxnews.com/science/pent...vehicles-earth

I know this isn't the NYT. Seems everyone references the paper but can't find the original article.

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The New York Times reports that a small group of government officials and scientists believe that objects of “undetermined origin” have crashed to Earth and been retrieved, including former Sen. Harry Reid. While some have been found to be man-made materials, there are question marks over others.
I know, pics or it didn't happen.

Edit: Here another source...

https://gizmodo.com/new-york-times-c...w-a-1844491014

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The New York Times published a story Thursday night about the likelihood that aliens have visited Earth. The main takeaway? Aliens could be real and the U.S. government has been conducting classified briefings in recent years about things left behind by “off-world vehicles.”

Naturally, the new article appears on the 17th page of today’s paper because everything else here on Earth is fucking bonkers and the existence of aliens barely makes headlines.
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Old 07-24-2020, 04:06 PM   #2
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You'll be seeing more articles like that. It's just a prerequisite to prepare the dumb masses for an Allien Invasion. Don't fall for it.
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Old 07-24-2020, 04:52 PM   #3
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Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.

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i saw this article yesterday. source is the HuffyPoo





https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ufo-o...065525258.html




The Pentagon’s secretive UFO unit is going to make some of its findings public, The New York Times reported.


And one consultant to the agency has briefed Defense Department officials of some highly unusual discoveries ― including items retrieved from “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth,” the newspaper said.



The Pentagon has claimed it disbanded its UFO office, but it actually simply changed names and moved. A Senate committee report suggests it will be expected to make some information public every six months.



The main goal isn’t alien spaceships, but rather something much closer to home: to see if confounding sightings ― including some by the military ― are actually advanced technology from rival nations.



The Times report also hints at possible artifacts from UFO crashes, citing former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).



“After looking into this, I came to the conclusion that there were reports — some were substantive, some not so substantive — that there were actual materials that the government and the private sector had in their possession,” Reid told the newspaper.


Astrophysicist Eric W. Davis, who has been a subcontractor and consultant for the Pentagon, told the Times he briefed the Defense Department in March about the “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth.” He said he has examined some of the materials and concluded “we couldn’t make it ourselves.”


Read the full Times report here.



Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) also indicated that he was concerned that supposed UFOs could be advanced tech from foreign nations.


“We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises, and we don’t know what it is, and it isn’t ours,” Rubio, who is acting chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told CBS4 in Miami last week.



He added: “I would say that, frankly, that if it’s something from outside this planet, that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some technological leap on behalf of the Chinese or the Russians or some other adversary that allows them to conduct this sort of activity.”


Objects in these sightings “exhibit, potentially, technologies that you don’t have at your own disposal,” making them a national security risk, Rubio said.



The military’s encounters with possible UFOs have come under intense interest since several videos were leaked in 2017 showing encounters with fast-moving objects including one given the nickname “Tic Tac” because it looked like one of the candies.


This object, still not publicly identified, dropped from 60,000 feet to just 50 feet in a matter of seconds:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85OhTbTtK_I


“The part that drew our attention was how it wasn’t behaving within the normal laws of physics,” pilot Chad Underwood told New York magazine last year.



Underwood filmed the “Tic Tac” encounter.


The military has since confirmed that the footage is real, and formally declassified it in the spring, but has said little else about it.



The Navy told UFO researcher Christian Lambright in a Freedom of Information Act request that releasing more information “would cause exceptionally grave damage to the National Security of the United States.”


To The Stars Academy, a company co-founded by former Blink 182 frontman Tom DeLonge that has worked to reveal UFO information and helped expose the 2017 videos, celebrated the newest developments.



“TTSA welcomes the increase in transparency and is steadfast in our mission to educate policy makers and support continued interest and engagement on this topic,” the organization said via Facebook.
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Old 07-24-2020, 05:09 PM   #4
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It's rather conceited to think that humans are the 2nd and last intelligent beings in the universe, behind dolphins.
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:56 PM   #5
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UAPs are interesting. FTW would think people are imaginging things.


well, he's gonna have a hard time explaining those tic tac videos.


as for Rubio, he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:07 AM   #6
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Maybe ALIENS can save us , with a anti-stupid vaccine
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Old 07-25-2020, 11:23 AM   #7
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It's rather conceited to think that humans are the 2nd and last intelligent beings in the universe, behind dolphins.
Be cautious.

Some LOONS will start screaming about renaming another team.
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Old 07-25-2020, 01:42 PM   #8
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Gnadfly / Waco Kid, Thanks for posting the links. It will be fascinating to see what comes out of this, especially any archaeological evidence for aliens.
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Old 07-25-2020, 08:13 PM   #9
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This is where being an Agnostic comes in handy. Sure, I guess it's possible but I'm not going to say I believe something unless it is proven to me beyond all reasonable doubt.


First thing that comes to mind when people say "we can't possibly be the only intelligent inhabitants in the universe"? Why not? We are on a huge rock suspended in an infinite universe and we can't be all there is? To me, it is entirely possible that we are all there is.
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Maybe ALIENS can save us , with a anti-stupid vaccine
The Alliens are the ones that came up with that cliche "You Can't Fix Stupid" after they had abducted a few Liberals, lol.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:39 PM   #11
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Don't worry douche-bag.

You'll always be on Team trump as far as we are concerned.
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Don't worry douche-bag.

You'll always be on Team trump as far as we are concerned.



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This is where being an Agnostic comes in handy. Sure, I guess it's possible but I'm not going to say I believe something unless it is proven to me beyond all reasonable doubt.


First thing that comes to mind when people say "we can't possibly be the only intelligent inhabitants in the universe"? Why not? We are on a huge rock suspended in an infinite universe and we can't be all there is? To me, it is entirely possible that we are all there is.

"Are We all There is??" - an unanswerable question. At this time.

The speed of light is the limitation - and the enormity of the galaxy and universe means that by the time we might/might not receive signals from an alien source (on its' own rock in space) - millions/billions of years will have passed - rendering any signals from aliens 'Old news'.


No way to make contact unless the speed of light barrier is not absolute/ rendering timely space travel possible. .

And - that barrier takes not into account all the travel hazards of the galaxies - which makes fragile human survival in an intersolar system travel highly hazardous and unlikely over the long term.
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Einstein hypothesized that, if something could travel faster than the speed of light, it would break fundamental physical laws by being able to observe, relatively speaking, a stationary electromagnetic wave. Thus, for his theory of relativity to work, he hypothesized that the speed of light must remain constant.


Yet - Light moves at 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum, but it slows down when it travels through various substances. For example, light moves at about 75% of that speed through water and about 41% of that speed through diamond.
Electrons, neutrons, or neutrinos can outpace photons of light in such media — though they have to bleed off energy as radiation when they do.
The expanding fabric of space also once exceeded light-speed during the Big Bang, and physicists think wormholes and quantum entanglement might defy the rule as well.







The speed of light is torturously slow, and these 3 simple animations by a scientist at NASA prove it

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An illustration of Earth and the moon. istock
  • The speed of light in a vacuum is about 186,282 miles per second (299,792 kilometers per second).
  • A scientist at NASA animated how long it takes light to travel around Earth, as well as between the planet, its moon, and Mars.
  • The physics animations show just how fast (and slow) the speed limit of the universe can be.
A series of new animations by a NASA scientist show just how zippy — and also how torturously slow — the speed of light can be.
Light speed is the fastest that any material object can travel through space. That is, of course, barring the existence of theoretical shortcuts in the fabric of space called wormholes (and the ability to go through them without being destroyed).
In a perfectly empty vacuum, a particle of light, which is called a photon, can travel 186,282 miles per second (299,792 kilometers per second), or about 670.6 million mph (1.079 billion kilometers per hour).
This is incredibly fast. However, light speed can be frustratingly slow if you're trying to communicate with or reach other planets, especially any worlds beyond our solar system.
Read more: Astronomers found a 'cold super-Earth' less than 6 light-years away — and it may be the first rocky planet we'll photograph beyond the solar system
To depict the speed limit of the cosmos in a way anyone could understand, James O'Donoghue, a planetary scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, took it upon himself to animate it.
"My animations were made to show as instantly as possible the whole context of what I'm trying to convey," O'Donoghue told Business Insider via Twitter. "When I revised for my exams, I used to draw complex concepts out by hand just to truly understand, so that's what I'm doing here."
O'Donoghue said he only recently learned how to create these animations — his first were for a NASA news release about Saturn's vanishing rings. After that, he moved on to animating other difficult-to-grasp space concepts, including a video illustrating the rotation speeds and sizes of the planets. He said that one "garnered millions of views" when he posted it on Twitter.





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O'Donoghue's latest effort looks at three different light-speed scenarios to convey how fast (and how painfully slow) photons can be.
How fast light travels relative to Earth

One of O'Donoghue's first animations shows how fast light moves in relation to Earth.
Earth is 24,901 miles around at its center. If our world had no atmosphere (air refracts and slows down light a little bit), a photon skimming along its surface could lap the equator nearly 7.5 times every second.
In this depiction, the speed of light seems pretty fast — though the movie also shows how finite it is.
How fast light travels between Earth and the moon

A second animation by O'Donoghue takes a big step back from Earth to include the moon.
On average, there is about 238,855 miles (384,400 kilometers) of distance between our planet and its large natural satellite.
This means all moonlight we see is 1.255 seconds old, and a round-trip between the Earth and moon at light speed takes about 2.51 seconds.
This timing is growing every day, however, as the moon is drifting farther from Earth at a rate of about 1.5 inches (3.8 centimeters) per year. (The moon is constantly sapping Earth's rotational energy via ocean tides, boosting its orbit to a greater and greater distance.)
How fast light travels between Earth and Mars

O'Donoghue's third speed-of-light animation illustrates the challenge that many planetary scientists deal with on a daily basis.
When NASA tries to talk to or download data from a spacecraft, such as the InSight probe on Mars, it can do so only at the speed of light. This is much too slow to operate a spacecraft in "live mode" as you would a remote-controlled car. So, commands must be carefully thought out, prepackaged, and aimed at the precise location in space at the precise time so that they don't miss their target.
Read more: NASA can hear the 'haunting' sound of dust devils tearing across Mars with its new $830 million lander
The fastest a conversation could ever happen between Earth and Mars is when the planets are at their nearest point to one another, an event called closest approach that happens once roughly every two years. On average, that best-case-scenario distance is about 33.9 million miles (54.6 million kilometers).
As that 60-second clip of O'Donoghue's full movie on YouTube shows, light takes 3 minutes 2 seconds to travel between Earth and Mars at closest approach. That's six minutes and four seconds for a light-speed round-trip.
But on average, Mars is about 158 million miles from Earth — so the average round-trip communication takes about 28 minutes and 12 seconds.
The speed of light gets more depressing the farther you go


An illustration of a Breakthrough Starshot "nanocraft" being propelled toward the Alpha Centauri star system with a powerful laser beam. Breakthrough Foundation The hurdle of light's finite speed gets even more challenging for spacecraft such as New Horizons, which is now more than 4 billion miles from Earth, and the Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft, each of which have reached the space between stars.
The situation gets downright depressing when you start looking outside the solar system. The closest-known exoplanet, called Proxima b, is about 4.2 light-years away from us (a distance of about 24.7 trillion miles or 39.7 trillion kilometers).
However, the fastest any spacecraft has ever gone is NASA's Parker Solar Probe at about 213,200 mph; at that speed, it'd take 13,211 years to reach Proxima b.
A Russian-American billionaire's Breakthrough Starshot project envisions a way to address this speed problem. The multidecade plan is to build and fly tiny "nanocraft" past such exoplanets via ultrapowerful laser blasts, ideally at a planned cruise velocity of 20% of the speed of light. Yet the entire concept is still theoretical, may end up not working, and would operate at a fraction of light-speed.
Space is impossibly vast. Although the universe is about 13.77 billion years old, its edge is about 45.34 billion light-years away in any direction and is increasing due to expansion.
That's far too big to illustrate in a simple animation. One illustration comes close, though: this image created by musician Pablo Carlos Budassi, which combines logarithmic maps of the universe from Princeton and images from NASA to capture it all in one picture.
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Old 07-26-2020, 12:26 PM   #15
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One of O'Donoghue's first animations shows how fast light moves in relation to Earth.
Earth is 24,901 miles around at its center. If our world had no atmosphere (air refracts and slows down light a little bit), a photon skimming along its surface could lap the equator nearly 7.5 times every second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJqg3B2_Kwc

A second animation by O'Donoghue takes a big step back from Earth to include the moon.
On average, there is about 238,855 miles (384,400 kilometers) of distance between our planet and its large natural satellite.
This means all moonlight we see is 1.255 seconds old, and a round-trip between the Earth and moon at light speed takes about 2.51 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61SxDrdyhI

As that 60-second clip of O'Donoghue's full movie on YouTube shows, light takes 3 minutes 2 seconds to travel between Earth and Mars at closest approach. That's six minutes and four seconds for a light-speed round-trip.
But on average, Mars is about 158 million miles from Earth — so the average round-trip communication takes about 28 minutes and 12 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSqFBbNtt9c
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