California and Washington flatten the curve?

[Kinkster90210]

Read this:


https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news...130405639.html


I think this article gives too much credit to political action. It misses a big point. CA and WA don't have a lot of mass transit compared to NY, CT, and NJ.


Californian and to a lesser extent Washington are saved by their car cultures. People in those states spend a lot more time alone in traffic.


But the subways and buses in NYC and the commuter rails connecting NYC to its suburbs in NY, CT and NJ are disease vectors.


Also, southern CA has warm weather which enables people to spend more time outdoors.


But people in the rest of the USA, particularly the northeast, has miserable weather in February and March, so people spend more time in close quarters indoors.


I think CA and WA just have slower rising curves, but they are rising. They may flatten out in another couple of weeks. But this article is premature.

[SecretE]

Originally Posted by Kinkster90210

Read this:


https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news...130405639.html


I think this article gives too much credit to political action. It misses a big point. CA and WA don't have a lot of mass transit compared to NY, CT, and NJ.


Californian and to a lesser extent Washington are saved by their car cultures. People in those states spend a lot more time alone in traffic.


But the subways and buses in NYC and the commuter rails connecting NYC to its suburbs in NY, CT and NJ are disease vectors.


Also, southern CA has warm weather which enables people to spend more time outdoors.


But people in the rest of the USA, particularly the northeast, has miserable weather in February and March, so people spend more time in close quarters indoors.


I think CA and WA just have slower rising curves, but they are rising. They may flatten out in another couple of weeks. But this article is premature.

Another thing you have that is rather unique to America is NYC's housing. All vertical in a condensed area, so everyone uses elevators, which are transmission vectors. There is some housing in China that is like that as well.

[friendly fred]

Good points stated above by both posters.

Even the elevators in Manhattan are tiny and crowded - the restaurants have you eating on top of each other - everything is dirty and hectic.

Much of the air handling equipment is interconnected in those high density buildings, too.

Also in California, even though it is overcrowded, it is far more pleasant to go outside and do things, plus many more people aspire to be healthy and fit, which is good for lung health and function.

[HoeHummer]

No fat people, eh, JL (Jack LaLane)?

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

No fat people, eh, JL (Jack LaLane)?

Fat people have considerably more comorbidities and as such are more susceptible to negative medical outcomes, which is exacerbated by the COVID-19 which originated in Wuhan, China.

FYI - I don't hate self supporting fat people - it is their life, impaired as it is. It is a free country and if fuckers want to drink, smoke, eat shitty food, not exercise and die young that is their right as long as they lead productive lives and don't commit crimes (other than prostitution - I give that a pass) I just don't like lazy and fat motherfuckers who mooch off the taxpayers and expect us to pay for their unneeded expenses.

[HedonistForever]

At what point do we say, go back to work? Only a hundred a day dying? Do we have to have to have 2,3,4 days in a row when nobody has died? How are we ever going to be sure with so many people walking around as carriers showing no symptoms? We go back to work and this all starts over again? One theory is that cycling work and no work time will be in our future if we can't come up with a cure for all these viruses but I am sure we will.


If Gov. Cuomo is right, we will never go back to normal for some time if ever.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-us-new-normal


New York governor says US won’t ‘get back to normal’ after coronavirus




What this country will look like when we do is another story all toegether.

[Revenant]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

At what point do we say, go back to work? Only a hundred a day dying? Do we have to have to have 2,3,4 days in a row when nobody has died? How are we ever going to be sure with so many people walking around as carriers showing no symptoms? We go back to work and this all starts over again? One theory is that cycling work and no work time will be in our future if we can't come up with a cure for all these viruses but I am sure we will.


If Gov. Cuomo is right, we will never go back to normal for some time if ever.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-us-new-normal

New York governor says US won’t ‘get back to normal’ after coronavirus

What this country will look like when we do is another story all together.

I think the USA will shelve the idea that you don't need masks. In a month or so, there will be billions more masks worldwide, including in the US. We will become like Asia and wear them all the time.

People will then go to work with masks on, commute with masks on, and buy groceries with masks on. But people will still shelter at home when not working.

Entertainment venues, restaurants, and bars will still be empty for the rest of the year.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Revenant

I think the USA will shelve the idea that you don't need masks. In a month or so, there will be billions more masks worldwide, including in the US. We will become like Asia and wear them all the time.

People will then go to work with masks on, commute with masks on, and buy groceries with masks on. But people will still shelter at home when not working.

Entertainment venues, restaurants, and bars will still be empty for the rest of the year.

You are probably right, but with everyone wearing masks, bank robberies should pick up....

As for everyone in Asia wearing masks, maybe they do it to thwart all the facial recognition systems out there....maybe wearing a mask isn't such a bad idea!