Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Political Forum
test
The Political Forum Discuss anything related to politics in this forum. World politics, US Politics, State and Local.

Most Favorited Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Most Liked Images
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
  • Thumb
Top Reviewers
cockalatte 650
MoneyManMatt 490
Jon Bon 400
Still Looking 399
samcruz 399
Harley Diablo 377
honest_abe 362
DFW_Ladies_Man 313
Chung Tran 288
lupegarland 287
nicemusic 285
Starscream66 282
You&Me 281
George Spelvin 270
sharkman29 256
Top Posters
DallasRain70831
biomed163764
Yssup Rider61304
gman4453377
LexusLover51038
offshoredrilling48840
WTF48267
pyramider46370
bambino43221
The_Waco_Kid37431
CryptKicker37231
Mokoa36497
Chung Tran36100
Still Looking35944
Mojojo33117

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-31-2019, 01:33 AM   #1
The_Waco_Kid
AKA ULTRA MAGA Trump Gurl
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,431
Encounters: 1
Default REPORT: 'Whistleblower' Who Complained About Trump's Call to Ukrainian President Zelensky Revealed

BAHHHAAAAAAAA we got him now!



REPORT: 'Whistleblower' Who Complained About Trump's Call to Ukrainian President Zelensky Revealed

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronso...ident-n2555644



The Beltway's 'Whistleblower' Furor Obsesses Over One Name

https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html


By Paul Sperry, RealClearInvestigations
October 30, 2019, 4:21 PM Eastern

For a town that leaks like a sieve, Washington has done an astonishingly effective job keeping from the American public the name of the anonymous “whistleblower" who triggered impeachment proceedings against President Trump — even though his identity is an open secret inside the Beltway.


Eric Ciaramella as a class of 2004 Connecticut prep student: He later moved on to Yale and the White House. Now he could be at the center of an impeachment storm.
Chase Collegiate School, Waterbury, Conn./The Magpie


More than two months after the official filed his complaint, pretty much all that’s known publicly about him is that he is a CIA analyst who at one point was detailed to the White House and is now back working at the CIA.


But the name of a government official fitting that description — Eric Ciaramella — has been raised privately in impeachment depositions, according to officials with direct knowledge of the proceedings, as well as in at least one open hearing held by a House committee not involved in the impeachment inquiry. Fearing their anonymous witness could be exposed, Democrats this week blocked Republicans from asking more questions about him and intend to redact his name from all deposition transcripts.


RealClearInvestigations is disclosing the name because of the public’s interest in learning details of an effort to remove a sitting president from office. Further, the official's status as a “whistleblower” is complicated by his being a hearsay reporter of accusations against the president, one who has “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate" -- as the Intelligence Community Inspector General phrased it circumspectly in originally fielding his complaint.


Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.


Joe Biden: Invited Ciaramella to state luncheon with Italian premier. Also invited: Brennan, Comey, Clapper.
AP Photo/Matt Rourke


Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.


“He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.


Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. (Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.)


And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.


Alexandra Chalupa: DNC oppo researcher was invited to the Obama White House by Ciaramella.
Afric Vision NouvelleTV/YouTube


Documents confirm the DNC opposition researcher attended at least one White House meeting with Ciaramella in November 2015. She visited the White House with a number of Ukrainian officials lobbying the Obama administration for aid for Ukraine.


With Ciaramella’s name long under wraps, interest in the intelligence analyst has become so high that a handful of former colleagues have compiled a roughly 40-page research dossier on him. A classified version of the document is circulating on Capitol Hill, and briefings have been conducted based on it. One briefed Republican has been planning to unmask the whistleblower in a speech on the House floor.


On the Internet, meanwhile, Ciaramella's name for weeks has been bandied about on Twitter feeds and intelligence blogs as the suspected person who blew the whistle on the president. The mainstream media are also aware of his name.


Fred Fleitz, Trump adviser: “Everyone knows who he is."
fredfleitz.com/Wikimedia


“Everyone knows who he is. CNN knows. The Washington Post knows. The New York Times knows. Congress knows. The White House knows. Even the president knows who he is,” said Fred Fleitz, a former CIA analyst and national security adviser to Trump, who has fielded dozens of calls from the media.

Yet a rare hush has swept across the Potomac. The usually gossipy nation’s capital remains uncharacteristically — and curiously — mum, especially considering the magnitude of this story, only the fourth presidential impeachment inquiry in U.S. history.


Trump supporters blame the conspiracy of silence on a “corrupt” and "biased” media trying to protect the whistleblower from due scrutiny about his political motives. They also complain Democrats have falsely claimed that exposing his identity would violate whistleblower protections, even though the relevant statute provides limited, not blanket, anonymity – and doesn’t cover press disclosures. His Democrat attorneys, meanwhile, have warned that outing him would put him and his family “at risk of harm," although government security personnel have been assigned to protect him.


“They’re hiding him,” Fleitz asserted. “They’re hiding him because of his political bias."


A CIA officer specializing in Russia and Ukraine, Ciaramella was detailed over to the National Security Council from the agency in the summer of 2015, working under Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser. He also worked closely with the former vice president.


Susan Rice: Ciaramella worked under Obama's national security adviser.
AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File


Federal records show that Biden’s office invited Ciaramella to an October 2016 state luncheon the vice president hosted for Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi. Other invited guests included Brennan, as well as then-FBI Director James Comey and then-National Intelligence Director James Clapper.


Several U.S. officials told RealClearInvestigations that the invitation that was extended to Ciaramella, a relatively low-level GS-13 federal employee, was unusual and signaled he was politically connected inside the Obama White House.


Former White House officials said Ciaramella worked on Ukrainian policy issues for Biden in 2015 and 2016, when the vice president was President Obama's "point man" for Ukraine. A Yale graduate, Ciaramella is said to speak Russian and Ukrainian, as well as Arabic. He had been assigned to the NSC by Brennan.


He was held over into the Trump administration, and headed the Ukraine desk at the NSC, eventually transitioning into the West Wing, until June 2017.


“He was moved over to the front office” to temporarily fill a vacancy, said a former White House official, where he “saw everything, read everything.”


The official added that it soon became clear among NSC staff that Ciaramella opposed the new Republican president’s foreign policies. “My recollection of Eric is that he was very smart and very passionate, particularly about Ukraine and Russia. That was his thing – Ukraine,” he said. “He didn’t exactly hide his passion with respect to what he thought was the right thing to do with Ukraine and Russia, and his views were at odds with the president’s policies.”


“So I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the whistleblower,” the official said.


In May 2017, Ciaramella went “outside his chain of command,” according to a former NSC co-worker, to send an email alerting another agency that Trump happened to hold a meeting with Russian diplomats in the Oval Office the day after firing Comey, who led the Trump-Russia investigation. The email also noted that Russian President Vladimir Putin had phoned the president a week earlier.


Contents of the email appear to have ended up in the media, which reported Trump boasted to the Russian officials about firing Comey, whom he allegedly called “crazy, a real nut job.”


In effect, Ciaramella helped generate the “Putin fired Comey” narrative, according to the research dossier making the rounds in Congress, a copy of which was obtained by RealClearInvestigations.


Ciaramella allegedly argued that “President Putin suggested that President Trump fire Comey,” the report said. “In the days after Comey’s firing, this presidential action was used to further political and media calls for the standup [sic] of the special counsel to investigate ‘Russia collusion.’ “


In the end, Special Counsel Robert Mueller found no conspiracy between Trump and Putin. Ciaramella’s email was cited in a footnote in his report, which mentions only Ciaramella’s name, the date and the recipients “Kelly et al.” Former colleagues said the main recipient was then-Homeland Security Director John Kelly..


House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff: "Whistleblower" complaint amounts to impeachable offense.
AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite


Ciaramella left the Trump White House soon after Mueller was appointed. Attempts to reach Ciaramella were unsuccessful, although his father said in a phone interview from Hartford, where he is a bank executive, that he doubted his son was the whistleblower. “He didn’t have that kind of access to that kind of information,” Tony Ciaramella said. “He’s just a guy going to work every day.” The whistleblower's lawyers did not answer emails and phone calls seeking comment. CIA spokesman Luis Rossello declined comment, saying, “Anything on the whistleblower, we are referring to ODNI.” The Office of the Director of National Intelligence did not respond to requests for comment.


In his complaint, the whistleblower charged that the president used “the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.” Specifically, he cited a controversial July 25 phone call from the White House residence in which Trump asked Ukraine’s new president to help investigate the origins of the Russia “collusion” investigation the Obama administration initiated against his campaign, citing reports that “a lot of it started with Ukraine," where the former pro-Hillary Clinton regime in Kiev worked with Obama diplomats and Chalupa to try to “sabotage” Trump’s run for president.


Later in the conversation, Trump also requested information about Biden and his son, since “Biden went around bragging that he” had fired the chief Ukrainian prosecutor at the time a Ukrainian oligarch, who gave Biden’s son a lucrative seat on the board of his energy conglomerate, was under investigation for corruption.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Intelligence Committee Chairman Schiff argued the whistleblower's complaint, though admittedly based on second-hand information, amounts to an impeachable offense, and they subsequently launched an impeachment inquiry that has largely been conducted in secret.


The whistleblower filed his “urgent” report against Trump with the I.C. inspector general on Aug. 12, but it was not publicly released until Sept. 26.


Prior to filing, he had met with Schiff’s Democratic staff for “guidance." At first, the California lawmaker denied the contacts, but later admitted that his office did, in fact, meet with the whistleblower early on.


Sean Misko: One of Ciaramella’s closest allies at the NSC, now on Schiff's staff.
Center for a New American Security


Earlier this year, Schiff recruited two of Ciaramella’s closest allies at the NSC — both whom were also Obama holdovers -- to join his committee staff. He hired one, Sean Misko, in August — the same month the whistleblower complaint was filed.


During closed-door depositions taken in the impeachment inquiry, Misko has been observed handing notes to the lead counsel for the impeachment inquiry, Daniel Goldman, as he asks questions of Trump administration witnesses, officials with direct knowledge of the proceedings told RealClearInvestigations.


Republicans participating in the restricted inquiry hearings have been asking witnesses about Ciaramella and repeatedly injecting his name into the deposition record, angering Schiff and Democrats, who sources say are planning to scrub the references to Ciaramella from any transcripts of the hearings they may agree to release.


“Their reaction tells you something,” said one official familiar with the inquiry.


For example, sources said Ciaramella’s name was invoked by GOP committee members during the closed-door testimony of former NSC official Fiona Hill on Oct. 14. Ciaramella worked with Hill, another Obama holdover, in the West Wing.


During Tuesday’s deposition of NSC official Alexander Vindman, Democrats shut down a line of inquiry by Republicans because they said it risked revealing the identity of the whistleblower. Republicans wanted to know with whom Vindman spoke within the administration about his concerns regarding Trump’s call to Ukraine. But Schiff instructed the witness not to answer the questions, which reportedly sparked a shouting match between Democrats and Republicans.


Determined to keep the whistleblower's identity secret, Schiff recently announced it may not be necessary for him to testify even in closed session. Republicans argue that by hiding his identity, the public cannot assess his motives for striking out against the president. And they worry his political bias could color inquiry testimony and findings unless it’s exposed.


Rep. Jim Jordan, the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee, asserted the American people have the right to know the person who is trying to bring down the president for whom 63 million voted.


“It’s tough to determine someone’s credibility if you can’t put them under oath and ask them questions,” he said.


Added Jordan: “The people want to know. I want to get to the truth."



Rep. Louis Gohmert: Ciaramella was “supposed to be a point person on Ukraine, during the time when Ukraine was its most corrupt, and he didn’t blow any whistles on their corruption."
AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin


In an open House Natural Resources Committee hearing last week, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) seemingly out of left field asked a witness about “Eric Ciaramella of the Obama National Security Council,” in what the Washington press corps took as a bid to out the whistleblower. He later told a Dallas radio station he knew the whistleblower’s name. “A lot of us in Washington know who it is,” Gohmert said, adding he’s a “very staunch Democrat” who was “supposed to be a point person on Ukraine, during the time when Ukraine was its most corrupt, and he didn’t blow any whistles on their corruption."


The Washington Post ran a news story over the weekend critical of Republicans for allegedly trying to “unmask” the whistleblower, for attempting to do the job journalists would normally do. Last week, the paper ran an op-ed by the whistleblower’s attorneys claiming he was no longer relevant to the inquiry and beseeching the public to let their client slip back into obscurity.


For its part, the New York Times ran a story last month reporting details about the whistleblower’s background, but stopped short of fully identifying him, suggesting it didn’t know his politics or even his name. “Little else is known about him,” the paper claimed.


On Thursday, Democrats plan a House vote on new impeachment-inquiry rules that would give Republicans for the first time the ability to call their own witnesses. Only, their requests must first be approved by the Democrats. So there is a good chance the whistleblower, perhaps the most important witness of all, will remain protected from critical examination.


the Democrat led House can hide him, but not from the Republican controlled Senate. the Senate has the right to call witnesses too. oh yeah .. they do.


THE RAT WHISTLEBLOWER WILL TESTIFY .. !!!


The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 02:39 AM   #2
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Milky Way
Posts: 10,954
Encounters: 46
Default

Cool story.

eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 07:24 AM   #3
bambino
BANNED
 
bambino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
Location: Dive Bar
Posts: 43,221
Encounters: 29
Default

Lock him up.
bambino is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 09:29 AM   #4
rexdutchman
Valued Poster
 
rexdutchman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1, 2013
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 12,555
Encounters: 22
Default

rexdutchman is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 09:51 AM   #5
dilbert firestorm
Valued Poster
 
dilbert firestorm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
Location: Nuclear Wasteland BBS, New Orleans, LA, USA
Posts: 31,921
Encounters: 4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bambino View Post
Lock him up.

who? lots of people here that need locking up.
dilbert firestorm is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 10:22 AM   #6
The_Waco_Kid
AKA ULTRA MAGA Trump Gurl
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,431
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm View Post
who? lots of people here that need locking up.



all of them.


BAHHAAAAAAA
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 10:34 AM   #7
gnadfly
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 14,460
Default

If you hang out at many of the more investigative conservative blogs, you know who this guy is. IMO, he's a Lawfare undercover agent.

The House Republicans should make him testify. Let Shifty Schiff try to protect him. Many of these guys should be in jail for leaking.
gnadfly is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 10:45 AM   #8
bambino
BANNED
 
bambino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
Location: Dive Bar
Posts: 43,221
Encounters: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gnadfly View Post
If you hang out at many of the more investigative conservative blogs, you know who this guy is. IMO, he's a Lawfare undercover agent.

The House Republicans should make him testify. Let Shifty Schiff try to protect him. Many of these guys should be in jail for leaking.
Lindsey Graham should bring him in. Burrs as impotent as WTF.
bambino is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 10:49 AM   #9
matchingmole
Valued Poster
 
matchingmole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: Only minutes from downtown
Posts: 7,183
Encounters: 30
Default

matchingmole is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 10:51 AM   #10
Unique_Carpenter
Chasing a Cowgirl
 
Unique_Carpenter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 19, 2013
Location: West Kansas
Posts: 31,839
Encounters: 89
Default

So 3rd hand info is enough for impeachment?
I have yet to see any 1st hand info disclosed. If the dims had that, it would be out as the Dims intentionally leak. Even when wearing Depends.
Unique_Carpenter is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 11:00 AM   #11
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

he is a partisan hack from the word "go", but why the celebration? are you planning to rouse a Mob to go after him? his Whistleblowing report is still factual, and has been corroborated by many in the Trump Administration.

instead of celebrating, you should bemoan the idea that Trump's own chosen people leak and fuck with his goals. yeah, I know he didn't choose the Whistleblower, per se, but most of the Government is vehemently opposed to Trump. you simply call it the Deep State, but why is Trump so despised, to a level far beyond the derision Nixon and Reagan received? because Trump is a hubristic Narcissist that chaps the Hell out of so many.

no doubt the "media" and others have been attacking Trump since day one (and before).. he feeds into it, attacking anyone who disagrees with him (Cabinet Members, too) openly and viciously. AFAIC, Trump gets what he begs for.
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 12:05 PM   #12
lustylad
Valued Poster
 
lustylad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: Steeler Nation
Posts: 18,787
Encounters: 10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post
instead of celebrating, you should bemoan the idea that Trump's own chosen people leak and fuck with his goals. yeah, I know he didn't choose the Whistleblower, per se, but most of the Government is vehemently opposed to Trump. you simply call it the Deep State, but why is Trump so despised, to a level far beyond the derision Nixon and Reagan received? because Trump is a hubristic Narcissist that chaps the Hell out of so many.
So you think it's fine & dandy for unelected career bureaucrats to "vehemently oppose" a duly elected POTUS because they don't care for his personality?

Uh-huh. Got it!

Funny but I don't think that's the way our Founding Fathers intended our democracy to function.
lustylad is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 12:26 PM   #13
The_Waco_Kid
AKA ULTRA MAGA Trump Gurl
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The MAGA Zone
Posts: 37,431
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chung Tran View Post
he is a partisan hack from the word "go", but why the celebration? are you planning to rouse a Mob to go after him? his Whistleblowing report is still factual, and has been corroborated by many in the Trump Administration.

instead of celebrating, you should bemoan the idea that Trump's own chosen people leak and fuck with his goals. yeah, I know he didn't choose the Whistleblower, per se, but most of the Government is vehemently opposed to Trump. you simply call it the Deep State, but why is Trump so despised, to a level far beyond the derision Nixon and Reagan received? because Trump is a hubristic Narcissist that chaps the Hell out of so many.

no doubt the "media" and others have been attacking Trump since day one (and before).. he feeds into it, attacking anyone who disagrees with him (Cabinet Members, too) openly and viciously. AFAIC, Trump gets what he begs for.

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

the establishment hates Trump because he's an outsider. there is not one thing in the transcript that rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors no matter how hard you want it to be.


you .. will .. vote .. for .. Trump .. AGAIN


because you will not vote for Warren. and you know it.
The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 12:38 PM   #14
Chung Tran
BANNED
 
Chung Tran's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 5, 2013
Location: Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Posts: 36,100
Encounters: 288
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lustylad View Post
So you think it's fine & dandy for unelected career bureaucrats to "vehemently oppose" a duly elected POTUS because they don't care for his personality?
Trump's own Cabinet opposes him, the Bureaucrats are an ancillary mention. he has fired or caused more to resign than any other President. damn near every one of the 2016 Republican candidates despise him. then you have Graham and Romney-types, who hate him, but agree to kiss ass on occasion, and Rubio and Cruz who were too humiliated to open their mouths at all. the Party is the Trump Fiefdom at this point. Mulvaney, Barr and Guiliani still suck Trump's dick, but even they stopped kneeling to do so.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid View Post
you .. will .. vote .. for .. Trump .. AGAIN


because you will not vote for Warren. and you know it.
too early to say.. I dislike all the real choices. I can't even think of a non-candidate who I would like to see make a late entry.
Chung Tran is offline   Quote
Old 10-31-2019, 12:50 PM   #15
Jackie S
Valued Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 31, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 15,054
Encounters: 15
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter View Post
So 3rd hand info is enough for impeachment?
I have yet to see any 1st hand info disclosed. If the dims had that, it would be out as the Dims intentionally leak. Even when wearing Depends.
The only first hand disclosure is the actual transcript of President Trump’s conversation, which of course, exonerates him from any wrong doing.
Jackie S is offline   Quote
Reply



AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved