ATF Has Been Enforcing a Rule That Does Not Exist

[dilbert firestorm]

https://news.yahoo.com/atf-enforcing...103043563.html

There are lots of rules about making and selling guns in this country: If you sell guns regularly as a business, you need to get a license and conduct background checks on your buyers; each gun a manufacturer creates for sale needs a serial number; etc. However, it’s generally legal to sell firearm parts without following those rules.

The exception is the “receiver.” Federal law treats this part — the frame that holds the gun’s guts, basically — the same way it treats an entire firearm. It needs to have a serial number and so on even when it’s sold by itself, preventing people from evading the law by simply buying and selling firearms piece by piece.

A guy named Joseph Roh illegally manufactured and sold AR-15s and other guns through a slapstick scheme to avoid the law. A judge issued a tentative order against Roh — but in the process held that lower receivers are not firearms under current regulations, thus acquitting Roh of some of the charges. The government decided to let Roh off with a slap on the wrist rather than pursue the matter further, to prevent the order, as CNN puts it, from “becoming permanent, drawing publicity, and creating case law that could hamper ATF enforcement efforts.”

WTF????

defining what's a receiver seems to be a problem for ATF.

[oeb11]

Interesting article - Thanks DF.
I do not think a problem with receiver definition affects Beto and his idiocy one iota - he knows not and cares less about the law and firearms. He is just a political hack demagogue.

Problem is under this decision - and evidently no plans for government appeal, is it means the AR-15 reciever is not a firearm, and thus is not subject to regulation and background checks.

Legal owners are ok with the law as previously enforced - it is the illegal transfers this makes legal now.

That puts weapons in the hands of illegals and felons who should not have the,m

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Interesting article - Thanks DF.
I do not think a problem with receiver definition affects Beto and his idiocy one iota - he knows not and cares less about the law and firearms. He is just a political hack demagogue.

Problem is under this decision - and evidently no plans for government appeal, is it means the AR-15 reciever is not a firearm, and thus is not subject to regulation and background checks.

Legal owners are ok with the law as previously enforced - it is the illegal transfers this makes legal now.

That puts weapons in the hands of illegals and felons who should not have the,m

makes one wonder if bump stocks fall in that too. this may/may not run a fowl of the supreme court.

[rexdutchman]

Liberals DON'T care about LAWS they just do as they want or say kinda like the Me - Tooo shit

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

makes one wonder if bump stocks fall in that too. this may/may not run a fowl of the supreme court
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"run afoul"


We have discussed bumpstocks - the ATF originally deferred a decision on bumpstocks because they are not a "firearm" and as such no under the BATFE control.

however - that part changes a semi-auto weapon into a full auto weapon effectively.

Our Full auto weapons are carefully regulated under the NFA Act of 1986 - reasonably so.

I am fine with ban on bumpstocks - releasing those did nothing good.

[dilbert firestorm]

the misspelling was on purpose.

[Jackie S]

There are far too many people with power who are ignorant of firearms.

With the AR style Rifle, you can buy a lower and then buy several uppers in different calibers and configurations. In the governments eyes, you only own one rifle.