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06-01-2019, 01:49 AM
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The Peculiar Blindness of Experts
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...future/588040/
Credentialed authorities are comically bad at predicting the future. But reliable forecasting is possible.
those experts. they are a dime a dozen aren't they?
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06-01-2019, 01:45 PM
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faking data also contributes to the peculiar blindness of experts.
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06-01-2019, 07:08 PM
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Remember - DF - Vaccines were proven to cause autism - and the medical-pharmacy-govenment machine put the researcher down and inflicts these drugs on us.
The experts on this are all over the net, and in ultra-orthodox Jewish neighborhoods.
Not to mention Honduras, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and cuba.
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06-02-2019, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by oeb11
Remember - DF - Vaccines were proven to cause autism - and the medical-pharmacy-govenment machine put the researcher down and inflicts these drugs on us.
The experts on this are all over the net, and in ultra-orthodox Jewish neighborhoods.
Not to mention Honduras, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and cuba.
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There is absolutely no proof that there is a link between vaccines and autism. NONE.
"Conclusion
Most scientific and medical experts are satisfied that no connection exists between vaccines and autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. Still, critics continue to question the issue. Not only do they question the relationship between MMR and thimerosal and autism, they bring up further culprits they believe might play a role in development of autism. Researchers continue to examine these questions, but there is no evidence that these factors play a role in autism development. Most autism researchers hold that the causes of autism are many and include genetic and environmental factors, but do not involve vaccines."
https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...s-cause-autism
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Do Vaccines Cause Autism?
Conclusion
Childhood vaccines do not cause autism. Maternal vaccines have not been shown to cause autism.
The Institute of Medicine (IOM), now called the National Academy of Medicine (NAM), concluded that the body of evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between autism and MMR vaccine and thimerosal-containing vaccines [1, 2]. MMR vaccine also prevents rubella disease, thus preventing congenital rubella syndrome and its associated cases of autism."
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/vs-autism.htm
"There is no link between vaccines and autism.
Some people have had concerns that ASD might be linked to the vaccines children receive, but studies have shown that there is no link between receiving vaccines and developing ASD. In 2011, an Institute of Medicine (IOM) report
External
on eight vaccines given to children and adults found that with rare exceptions, these vaccines are very safe.
A 2013 CDC study [PDF – 204 KB]
External
added to the research showing that vaccines do not cause ASD. The study looked at the number of antigens (substances in vaccines that cause the body’s immune system to produce disease-fighting antibodies) from vaccines during the first two years of life. The results showed that the total amount of antigen from vaccines received was the same between children with ASD and those that did not have ASD.
Vaccine ingredients do not cause autism.
One vaccine ingredient that has been studied specifically is thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used to prevent contamination of multidose vials of vaccines. Research shows that thimerosal does not cause ASD. In fact, a 2004 scientific review
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by the IOM concluded that “the evidence favors rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal–containing vaccines and autism.” Since 2003, there have been nine CDC-funded or conducted studies
Cdc-pdf
[PDF – 357 KB] that have found no link between thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD, as well as no link between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and ASD in children."
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html
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06-02-2019, 08:58 AM
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SR - Your literalism stuns me.
Have you not read my posts about vaccines and her immunity?
Have you no understanding of satire/sarcasm?
Have I not personally posted the CDC guidelines and vaccine info on this Forum?
Nonethless - Thank You for not falling for the Anti-Vaxxer nonsense.
And for your documentation efforts.
Please take a look at the medical conditions in Venezuela - due to Socialism/Maduro and point out the flaws in government nationalizing medical care.
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06-02-2019, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by oeb11
SR - Your literalism stuns me.
Have you not read my posts about vaccines and her immunity?
Have you no understanding of satire/sarcasm?
Have I not personally posted the CDC guidelines and vaccine info on this Forum?
Nonethless - Thank You for not falling for the Anti-Vaxxer nonsense.
And for your documentation efforts.
Please take a look at the medical conditions in Venezuela - due to Socialism/Maduro and point out the flaws in government nationalizing medical care.
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Sorry if I misunderstood the intent of your post. My mistake.
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06-02-2019, 09:40 AM
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Sounds rather reactionary speedy. I think I would say, as far as we know there is no confirmed evidence of a link between vaccines and autism. The world is a big place to be talking in absolutes.
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06-02-2019, 10:42 AM
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Sounds rather reactionary speedy. I think I would say, as far as we know there is no confirmed evidence of a link between vaccines and autism. The world is a big place to be talking in absolutes.
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At what point, after countless studies have been made into the subject of vaccines and autism and found absolutely no correlation, does one accept the preponderance of proof?
Some people still believe the earth is flat. Some people believe man has never walked on the moon. Some people believe Malaysia Flight 370 was hijacked and landed on a remote island.
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06-02-2019, 11:10 AM
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Speed some people still believe socialism will save the world...
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06-02-2019, 02:07 PM
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Wow! So now, who believes that the world is flat?
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Originally Posted by oeb11
SR - Your literalism stuns me.
it·er·al·ism
/ˈlidərəlizəm,ˈlitrəˌlizəm/
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the interpretation of words in their usual or most basic sense Have you not read my posts about vaccines and her immunity?
Have you no understanding of satire/sarcasm? Do you not understant that one needs to say wat they mean. Satire, we don't think so. Have I not personally posted the CDC guidelines and vaccine info on this Forum?
Well, we now know who is educated and who isn't. Nonethless - Thank You for not falling for the Anti-Vaxxer nonsense.
And for your documentation efforts.
Please take a look at the medical conditions in Venezuela - due to Socialism/Maduro and point out the flaws in government nationalizing medical care.
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Wow???
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06-02-2019, 07:06 PM
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Wow???
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lets flip that to Mom!!!
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06-02-2019, 07:20 PM
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Thank you - jr - my post was not directed to you
valued poster.
Anything constructive to add????
Back to topic - Remember the Wizard of Oz - the Tin Man wanted a brain - So- The Wizard gave Tin Man a Diploma and He became an "Expert". Went into politics and morphed into : Bernie Sanders!!!!!!
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06-03-2019, 08:08 AM
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The EXPERT 's only what you to see there side . Then the write books and so on for money
The Army Corp of Engineer s is a great point of Experts that fail and cause great damage. Just look to Houston building houses in a flood pool .
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