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11-10-2018, 09:56 AM
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What is your definition of the term "fake news"?
I thoight it was a straight forward term.
Fake news. Fake describes the type of news.
noun
anything made to appear otherwise than it actually is; counterfeit:
This diamond necklace is a fake.
a person who fakes; faker:
The doctor with the reputed cure for cancer proved to be a fake.
a spurious report or story.
Sports . a simulated play or move intended to deceive an opponent.
or a verb.
verb (used with object), faked, fak·ing.
prepare or make (something specious, deceptive, or fraudulent):
to fake a report showing nonexistent profits.
to conceal the defects of or make appear more attractive, interesting, valuable, etc., usually in order to deceive:
The story was faked a bit to make it more sensational.
to pretend; simulate:
To me, fake news is something made up. If I were to name a fake news source, the one that comes to my mind is infowars. They post stories on a regular basis that are made up. When called out, they don't retract or correct.
A story that has incorrect facts in it is raw meat for the other news services. If CNN finds that WaPo has reported something wrong, CNN doesn't hide it or cover it up.
And it's easy to tell a mistake from something fake.
Fake stays the same and mistakes get fixed.
The following link goes to a test for help figuring out if something is fake or not.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfac...quiz-find-out/
A lot of discord could be avoided if we could agree on a few ground rules and terms.
Just sayin'
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11-10-2018, 11:00 AM
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Well Deceptive, fraudulent or incompetent or with the intent to be an opinion ( like cnn fox ) what I call wishful reporting.
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11-10-2018, 11:03 AM
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MMM: I think you covered it well with the verb section:
"verb (used with object), faked, fak·ing.
prepare or make (something specious, deceptive, or fraudulent):
to fake a report showing nonexistent profits.
to conceal the defects of or make appear more attractive, interesting, valuable, etc., usually in order to deceive:
The story was faked a bit to make it more sensational.
to pretend; simulate:"
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11-10-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by friendly fred
MMM: I think you covered it well with the verb section:
"verb (used with object), faked, fak·ing.
prepare or make (something specious, deceptive, or fraudulent):
to fake a report showing nonexistent profits.
to conceal the defects of or make appear more attractive, interesting, valuable, etc., usually in order to deceive:
The story was faked a bit to make it more sensational.
to pretend; simulate:"
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Be like a Hooker telling you what a wonderful lover you are. Not you personally. ... just hookers telling johns that in general.
One could call that a white lie or fake news if you then report it as fact that you are a great lover when in fact you basically paid someone to tell you that.
Now lets expand this to what Trump does.
Say a Hooker tells him he is a great lover and he then tells everyone that he is a great lover and say CNN tells everyone that only hookers have told Trump he was a great lover....Trump would then call the correct reporting fake news.
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11-10-2018, 04:16 PM
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Personally I don't include "incompetent". That's like giving them a pass. They're supposed to be pros at the large market/national level,
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Well Deceptive, fraudulent or incompetent or with the intent to be an opinion ( like cnn fox ) what I call wishful reporting.
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11-10-2018, 05:59 PM
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I would love to see faux news on a national news channel and try to compete with our modern day Walter Cronkite, the Lester Holt. Faux belongs on cable. They could not find a national news audience where real people get their news
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11-11-2018, 01:04 AM
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In Donna Braziles book on the 2016 election she described "fake news" but since the book was completed after Trump took office she avoided using that term. However, she described a CNN news story about a senior staff meeting of the DNC that never happened. The subject of the fake meeting, who would replace the discredited Wasserman-Schultz.
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11-11-2018, 06:00 AM
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Fiction.
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11-11-2018, 06:33 AM
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In loving memory of Jim Acosta's career...
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11-11-2018, 10:22 AM
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Fake news is the promotion by the mainstream media outlets of positions they agree with regardless of counter balancing facts and real analysis
It’s siding with one political party in their reporting, questions and slant
It’s constant adoption of beliefs as if everything begins with a certain bedrock world view by all smart people and everything is based on these, in their view, universal givens
It’s the ideologically pure ness of these supposed organs of “truth”
It’s acts of commission and more importantly omission
It’s manyexamples of selective editing
It’s attitude and deference either given or totally absent depending on party
It’s collusion with candidates and a party and backdoor winks
It’s that the mainstream media almost never misses an opportunity to equate conservatism as a fringe
It’s headlines like salon’s, “why are conservatives more susceptible to believing lies”, a common attitude
It’s a 90% negative reporting of trump
They demonize conservatives and yet expect us to believe them.
It’s why half the country doesn’t believe just about anything these people say
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11-11-2018, 10:41 AM
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It’s why half the country doesn’t believe just about anything these people say
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So almost half the country thinks CNN is fake news and the other almost half thinks Fox is choked full of Fake News.
Got it.
Think God there is a small 10-20% segment in the middle that can tell the difference and vote accordingly.
This last election they realized all the fake news was coming mostly from the White House
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11-11-2018, 12:04 PM
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Webster
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Definition of news
1a : "a report of recent events"
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Webster
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Definition of fiction
1a : "something invented by the imagination or feigned"
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Like I said: Fiction
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11-11-2018, 01:59 PM
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Webster
Webster
Like I said: Fiction
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Was the news that Clinton won the popular vote 'fake'?
Trump says it is
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11-11-2018, 03:40 PM
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Like I said: Fiction
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It's fiction.
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11-14-2018, 12:21 AM
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It's verifiable fact that Clinton won the popular vote.
Yes, fake news is fiction.
No, trump didn't win the popular vote.
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It's fiction.
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