Seriously folks , you don't see a problem here???

[puekaw]

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...ectoral-fraud/

[dilbert firestorm]

As reported by the National Review's Deroy Murdock, who did some numbers-crunching of his own, "some 3.5 million more people are registered to vote in the U.S. than are alive among America's adult citizens. Such staggering inaccuracy is an engraved invitation to voter fraud."

Murdock counted Judicial Watch's state-by-state tally and found that 462 U.S. counties had a registration rate exceeding 100% of all eligible voters. That's 3.552 million people, who Murdock calls "ghost voters." And how many people is that? There are 21 states that don't have that many people.


yup that is a problem!

[garhkal]

I saw that article over on GOPUSA. I can bet a LOT of media outlets will do all they can to sweep that under the rug. Possibly even fox!

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by garhkal

I saw that article over on GOPUSA. I can bet a LOT of media outlets will do all they can to sweep that under the rug. Possibly even fox!

Judicial Watch seems to be on the case. I'm not sure how they will handle it. State officials don't seem to want to investigate it. (quite possible that they are part of the problem)



the problem here is that the fraud is massive on scale but this appears to generally affect local races more than state/federal races. so you have this discrepancy with the population count and the voter count in some cities.

[RetiredSubmariner]

My wife is a candidate for state legislature. We have both been active in doing door-to-door campaigning.

Early in the campaign process, this state's 'Secretary of State' sent us a bunch of links explaining the process. The voter rolls here are never 'purged'. Every week we go out and we go from door to door. We have a copy of the voter rolls from each of these towns. They list every voter who has registered in the last hundred years. Streets names have changed, house numbers have been re-numbered, people have died, or moved out of state. But all of that has left a huge residue on these voter rolls.

We are doing good if half of the houses are still in existence.

A great many of the people we have spoken with, have told us that they personally are not registered to vote. So all we have to go on, is the idea that someone at that house, in some previous decade, lived there are was interested in voting.

Voter rolls are highly inflated.

[RetiredSubmariner]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

... That's 3.552 million people, who Murdock calls "ghost voters." And how many people is that? There are 21 states that don't have that many people.

You may be looking at this wrong.

The voter roll lists everyone who has ever registered to vote in that town. The list is NOT how many people live today who are registered in that town.

The list is how many people, going back ten generations, have registered to vote in that town.

In another decade it will be much worse.

During my Active Duty Navy career, I registered in California, Scotland, Connecticut, Virginia, Washington, and Maine. Every one of these was a 'lifetime' registration. I could return to each of these locations and I could vote there once again.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by RetiredSubmariner

My wife is a candidate for state legislature. We have both been active in doing door-to-door campaigning.

Early in the campaign process, this state's 'Secretary of State' sent us a bunch of links explaining the process. The voter rolls here are never 'purged'.

NEVER?? I'd be suing that sec of state, for willful ignorance of voter fraud...

Originally Posted by RetiredSubmariner

During my Active Duty Navy career, I registered in California, Scotland, Connecticut, Virginia, Washington, and Maine. Every one of these was a 'lifetime' registration. I could return to each of these locations and I could vote there once again.

ANd that's part of the issue. Whether military or not, people move, Re-register to vote in new state X, but NEVER get taken off the voter rolls in their PRIOR STATE...



THAT NEEDS to change.

[grean]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

As reported by the National Review's Deroy Murdock, who did some numbers-crunching of his own, "some 3.5 million more people are registered to vote in the U.S. than are alive among America's adult citizens. Such staggering inaccuracy is an engraved invitation to voter fraud."

Murdock counted Judicial Watch's state-by-state tally and found that 462 U.S. counties had a registration rate exceeding 100% of all eligible voters. That's 3.552 million people, who Murdock calls "ghost voters." And how many people is that? There are 21 states that don't have that many people.


yup that is a problem!

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/voting-and-registration/p20-580.html

See table 2

There are 224 adult citizens and only 157 are registered to vote. So not quite more registered than are living...by a long shot.

And with only 3.5 million, as they claim, it's very possible that a person owns property and per local rules is allowed to vote on local matters. Also people move and register without having their names cleared from previous disctricts rolls. No biggy and perfectly OK as long as they don't vote twice for president or something like that.

They could vote for president in the district where they live and also vote on a local zoning issue in the district were they own property.

That's requires registration in both places.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by garhkal

NEVER?? I'd be suing that sec of state, for willful ignorance of voter fraud...





ANd that's part of the issue. Whether military or not, people move, Re-register to vote in new state X, but NEVER get taken off the voter rolls in their PRIOR STATE...



THAT NEEDS to change.

Agreed, but unless that person shows up to vote, then ... voter fraud? Kinda extreme, don't you think?

Maybe if Trump keeps looking, he'll find those 3 million illegal votes cast against him. By then, even more of them won't have voted.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[grean]

I really think it's much ado about nothing.

[garhkal]

So you don't see potentially 3.5 million registered voters MORE THAN there are adults of voting age, to be a problem??

[grean]

Originally Posted by garhkal

So you don't see potentially 3.5 million registered voters MORE THAN there are adults of voting age, to be a problem??

I linked the census data above. According to it, there are not more people registered to vote than there are eligible adult citizens.

I also feel that 3.5 million could be a reasonable number of people who have simply moved or need to be registered in two or more places as previously explained.

[grean]

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-states-report

Trump's daughter is or was, registered in two states. And that's Okay. No big deal.

Voting twice is a problem but that is very rare and it's almost always discovered and prosecuted when it does happen.

[rexdutchman]

Dilbert that's funny sad but so true

[Chung Tran]

the problem I see is a guy who apparently made a second account on ECCIE, to post 10 times in 68 minutes, all in the Political forum.. and now banned.

it's hard to take you seriously, when you take this political posting so seriously you went to such a length to create 10 posts.