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05-08-2011, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Aug 8, 2010
Location: K.C. Metro area
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Thoughts on Repeat Business
I will start by saying that I have a tendency to keep repeating with the ladies I have a good time with. Of course there are those I have had a good time with but there was just something about the experience that made it a one and done. And for some ladies, there is no way in hell I would ever go back.
I want to ask a couple of questions.
1) Guys, why do you repeat business (or not)? And secondly, when do you stop repeating? I repeat because of the comfort factor. I know the lady is safe (maybe ten definitions of "safe", you pick) and because knowing each other has it's benefits. If I have a good time with someone, and some rapport has been established, I will likely repeat. To some degree, maybe I repeat because I am too lazy to look around. I will go over my own reasons for ending a long term "relationship" in a minute.
2) Ladies, to what extent will you go to keep loyal clients coming back? Do you offer specific incentives, or do you just provide unspoken extras like time, or service, or a relaxed atmosphere?
Lately, I have noticed a trend. One I find disturbing. Every lady I have seen multiple times (with one exception) will eventually change persona over time. Despite the fact the first couple of visits were very good or amazing, eventually I feel taken for granted. Like my name is spelled A.T.M.. They rush off right at or just before the time is up. Start clock watching. Give mechanical service, etc. Keep in mind, these are usually subtle changes, and not radical personality swings.
Does familiarity breed contempt? Do you ladies realize when this happens? Guys, have you experienced this too? When I detect this, it is time to move on. Do you tell the lady why you are no longer seeing her, or just go silent. Ladies, do you want to know when you are going to lose a client?
Thanks.
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05-08-2011, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 6, 2010
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I don't think familiarity breeds contempt in this lifestyle. I guess it would depend upon the people involved and how mature they both are and also what they're both looking for in their mutually beneficial arrangement. I think that both clients and providers like the variety that this lifestyle offers both parties.
I know for myself, I am not a clock watcher and if I have nothing else scheduled, will hang out with a client for over the time we had agreed upon, unless he has somewhere else to be also.
If I have a regular client, I would like him to tell me if he's feeling like I'm not giving him the attention he deserves or what he would like done differently in our arrangement. I'd hear him out and then we could both come to a satisfying conclusion or it's probably just time to part ways.
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05-09-2011, 12:55 AM
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I am most likely to repeat with a girl that is always freshly showered and sweet smelling ALL over. :-) There is one girl I have seen 2-3 times that smells so good that you just can't help eating her all over, even her ass smells like candy. :-)
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05-09-2011, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Oct 5, 2010
Location: Reno
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1. There is a huge difference between someone you see once a week and someone you see once every 3 months. And the 3 monther tends to be the one that feels he "deserves" some sort of extras and can be a very difficult client.
2. A great repeat client is one who treats every date with the respect for your effort and time as he did the first and those are the ones that I feel do actually deserve a little extra consideration.
3. A provider never OWES a client anything other than the time he books. And while some women (as Allie posted earlier) are happy to hang out over the allotted time, it is a bad thing to assume that every provider will.
4. People say "clockwatcher" like its a terrible thing, and I went along with that idea for the first months because no one wants to admit it. But here is the thing, I watch the clock because otherwise people will take advantage. If I'm standing there totally dressed and have been for 15 minutes and your appointment ended 45 minutes ago and you are STILL grabbing at me I'm not going to be happy about and will not schedule you again. The flip side of that is that my clients that respect my time and show that they do tend to be the ones that get the nice freebies (booty calls, overnights, more date-type things) because they weren't trying to get away with anything.
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05-09-2011, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 26, 2011
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Im soooo sorry! Not every provider has received the manual on how to retain business. We think its common since to keep a client is easier than finding a new client. Like with every business model.
To retain:
1. My rate. My "entry" rate is super duper high... like a Roller Coaster that has a height requirment... I wanna make sure on-going clients dont end up in the homeless shelter and that this is indeed their hobby budget. Is it a One Time Fan or an on-going Affair? Every guy is looking for something different. I make a suggestion of a rate if I know they are looking for an on-going affair vs a "Hit It and Quit It" guy
2. I record what I wear. If guys wanted to be with a woman who wore the same thing all the time- they would stay with their wife. While on film, I have crates of different outfits and fantasy's. I do encourage gals to ALWAYS invest in themselves first. Their outfits!!! Their look! If you loose your looks... and men are basically turned on by looks... then we will loose our "job".
3. The GFE.
-Always having an open bar with some basics. When I provide alcohol, its not to get smashed and to throw up on the client. It IS a social lubrication that tends to improve the sex and conversation... I have no idea why! ahaha
- I also bake cookies because EVERYONE loves the smell of fresh baked cookies!
-I switch it up. If they are single, and its a LARGE city... lets hit the city for the same hourly rate. Lets plan a trip, lets do the theater... dinner! If Married, book a Bed a Breakfast on the edge of town... with cash! Or go on a business trip an book your ATF a flight on a seperate CC. Im used to larger cities so with small towns and being discreet might not offer this.
So thats my notes for girls... for the client? DONT negotiate the rate TOO much as then we tend to resent you.
((We bring the BEST GFE..um... you bring the $$$.))
xo- angela aspen
(resume: 6 years of perfect reviews)
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05-09-2011, 07:34 PM
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Well I would say this. I spend a minimum of $200/month in this hobby. I usually spend about $500. I often spend as much as $1200. I will spend $500 this week alone (actually within 2 days). The question for a provider might be, if I'm not spending it with YOU, why not? I'm spending it. It's up for grabs. And if you can answer why.....oh well.
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05-09-2011, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 20, 2010
Location: Kansas City
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Everybody's smilin'
You can't find a frown
(Ah)
The girls are all happy
Cause the Big Ball's in town
(That's right)
Big Ball's in Cowtown
We'll all go down
Big Ball's in Cowtown
Yeah, yeah Big Ball's in town
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05-09-2011, 08:39 PM
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Location: KS
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Sunno what the hell that means bp. I merely meant to point out a little strategic thinking. I spend a huge portion of my time working on. Strategic marketing plans. We out line "big wallet" and "big share" into quadrants. We have big wallet prospects that are not spending $ with us. Big wallet customers in which we have a big share of their business. Then we have smaller allet and smaller share. Our focus is on two areas. The big wallet we don't have big share in, we work to get in the door (there is one girl here that has donean amazing job in that area...you know who you are) and those with big wallet and we "own" the share, we will bend over backwards to keep because we cannot easily replace them.
It's not hat we don't care about the smaller wallet. We do. But we don't proactively market to them because it takes more to reach them than we'd get in return. The ROI isn't worth it. But no reason a provider couldn't use the model for their own purposes.
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05-09-2011, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: KS
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Pardone typos. On mobile phone
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05-09-2011, 09:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 22, 2010
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i find the to keep those lucky few who visit me on a normal,if i treat them like its the frist time everytime them we both know what we are gettin into and we both have fun,I find if you always put your best foot forward,your more lily to keep your hobbiest happy,but on the same note dont be a door mat, keep a smile on your face and always make sure that you know that no your client isnt an a.t.m (truer words never spoken th64083)but also that his like any other service is all about people skills,and if you cant offer what they are looking for,then let them move on there are many others who will be willing to see you with what you do offer.
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05-10-2011, 12:00 AM
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Join Date: Apr 26, 2011
Location: Amarillo, Santa Fe
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I agree w Sens- I get references from guys who... drum roll... see 2 girls a week!!!
Pause)... think about that.
So I KNOW guys have the money to go into SOMEONE's pocket!!! I know its the recession but most my bank comes from OLD Money... Recession Proof Money... So.. I think in this day in age- Be the BEST GFE for the lowest rate =perfect! Like Whore Wal-Mart.
Improve The Product... wait... shhhhh.... thats my competition... I should make sure they suck!
jk... xo angela aspen
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05-10-2011, 12:34 AM
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Typically, 80-90% of my available schedule in KC is filled by repeat clientele that book well in advance or they have a standing, recurring appointment request - and the majority of my clients book multiple hours. So, I must be doing something right . . . but it requires forethought and hard work, and it is a combination of many factors - too many to delineate here. I agree with Lilianna on every point she outlined. As a single parent, my schedule and personal life with my son versus my professional life does not allow me the flexibility in providing certain "extras" that some other ladies may be able to offer (such as overnights and more "date-type things"), however, those incentives I do choose to extend are both considerable and they are very well received. Also, being intuitive through experience, I am able to discern immediately those clients which I may have the opportunity to earn their continued patronage through my efforts . . . and that is what I do, I earn it. Continually.
Kisses,
- Jackie
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05-10-2011, 06:28 AM
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Join Date: Apr 13, 2010
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Originally Posted by Sens55
Well I would say this. I spend a minimum of $200/month in this hobby. I usually spend about $500. I often spend as much as $1200. I will spend $500 this week alone (actually within 2 days). The question for a provider might be, if I'm not spending it with YOU, why not? I'm spending it. It's up for grabs. And if you can answer why.....oh well.
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05-10-2011, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 22, 2011
Location: KCI area
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I'm cheap and don't always want to come loose of ~$200, even every 2-3 months. I'm jus cheap and have other things I like to spend money on. But, when I do "hobby", I like it to be with a provider that I actually like and feel comfortable with. I don't really want to be the TOFFT guy tossing his line in to BP and taking a chance. I value that money and want to make sure that I get exactly what I want (need) and there be no let downs. That comes with repeats, for me.
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05-10-2011, 07:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 23, 2010
Location: kansas city
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Repeating
Has to do with the comfort and intimacy level between the parties. Not what one does to the other but what they do together.
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