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16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting That Mainstream Media Doesn't Want To Talk About
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...nt-want-talk-a
16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting That Mainstream Media Doesn't Want To Talk About
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by Tyler Durden [1]
Oct 5, 2017 8:15 AM
Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog, [4]
The public is not being told the truth about what really went down in Las Vegas.
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As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups [6], and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him.
But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.
The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…
#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note [7]. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?
#2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window [8]. A video from another angle [9] and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian [10] also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video [11] should definitely do it.
#3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor” [12], and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?
#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible [13] for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?
#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns [14] and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?
#6 How did someone with “no military background” [15] and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News [16] made this point… Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.
Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.
#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die [17] 45 minutes before the attack?
#8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes [18] to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?
#9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 [19] to the Philippines last week?
#10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?
#11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?
#12 Why was ISIS so eager [20] to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection [21]?
#13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals” [22]. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?
#14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.
#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked [23]?… In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.
From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”
#16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa [6] in any way?
At first I thought that this was a fairly straightforward story too, but the more I have dug into it the more complex things have become.
Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. Let us never forget what these extremely wicked individuals did to innocent civilians such as 27-year-old Tina Frost [24]… A 27-year-old woman has lost her right eye after a bullet ripped through her face during the Las Vegas concert massacre.
Tina Frost remains in a coma in hospital after undergoing surgery to remove the bullet that became lodged in her eye when a gunman opened fire on the crowd of country music fans on Sunday night.
Frost, who is originally from Maryland but moved to California several years ago, is expected to remain in the coma for a week.
Whoever did this is going to pay greatly. Yes, I do believe that Stephen Paddock was involved. But he did not act alone, and the mainstream media is doing the public a great disservice by ignoring all of the evidence that this was not just a “lone wolf” operation.
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Michael Snyder [25] is a Republican candidate for Congress in Idaho’s First Congressional District, and you can learn how you can get involved in the campaign on his official website [26]. His new book entitled “Living A Life That Really Matters” [27] is available in paperback and for the Kindle on Amazon.com [27].
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10-06-2017, 01:07 AM
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You trumpers, full of conspiracy. If you don't understand something must be the msm, or obama, maybe hillary, but best guess, deep state.
It was a crazy white dude with a bunch of guns. You dont need extensive training to fire the guns, YouTube will provide the basic operations of each. And a little practice,pointing a fully auto gun and killing people not that hard.
Everyone is on antidepressants why would that matter?
The man just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. He did that. Seriously antifa? A man with that many guns is probably a trump supporter. If you have more than 10 guns odds are youre a white Republican. No one else needs that many guns.
I was amazed the repubs are coming around to banning bump stocks.
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10-06-2017, 02:02 AM
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You trumpers, full of conspiracy. If you don't understand something must be the msm, or obama, maybe hillary, but best guess, deep state.
It was a crazy white dude with a bunch of guns. You dont need extensive training to fire the guns, YouTube will provide the basic operations of each. And a little practice,pointing a fully auto gun and killing people not that hard.
Everyone is on antidepressants why would that matter?
The man just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. He did that. Seriously antifa? A man with that many guns is probably a trump supporter. If you have more than 10 guns odds are youre a white Republican. No one else needs that many guns.
I was amazed the repubs are coming around to banning bump stocks.
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There was a shooter on the Fourth floor who was that?
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10-06-2017, 02:10 AM
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No there was a suspect on the 4th floor. Everyone is a suspect till they find the right guy. There may be more to this and im sure there is. But you guys making up stuff from what you heard is a bit far. Wait for facts.
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10-06-2017, 02:54 AM
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No there was a suspect on the 4th floor. Everyone is a suspect till they find the right guy. There may be more to this and im sure there is. But you guys making up stuff from what you heard is a bit far. Wait for facts.
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That is a fact. Somebody attending the concert saw a series of muzzle flashes coming from a Fourth Floor window of the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
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10-06-2017, 03:49 AM
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Somebody at the concert lol.
Notice that the windows are broken where the guy shot from. Now did the guy on the 4th floor have phaser or laser rifle? Or maybe the msm is hiding the broken glass?
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10-06-2017, 05:47 AM
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Just for starters ... this is stated as a "fact" ...
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#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns [14] and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?
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Is it a "fact" there were "42 guns" in his room?
This question will be easily answered from the cited article.
THERE WEREN'T!
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Officers recovered 19 firearms, explosives and ammo from Stephen Paddock's home in Mesquite, Nevada, hours after discovering 23 guns in his room at the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino from which he attacked the concertgoers.
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http://news.sky.com/story/las-vegas-...e-say-11065188
"23 guns" were recovered from his room.
I hope Dialer Turden didn't make up all these fake questions.
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10-06-2017, 06:19 AM
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Is there a "grassy knoll" any where in the vicinity of the Mandalay Hotel?
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10-06-2017, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey
You trumpers, full of conspiracy. If you don't understand something must be the msm, or obama, maybe hillary, but best guess, deep state.
It was a crazy white dude with a bunch of guns. You dont need extensive training to fire the guns, YouTube will provide the basic operations of each. And a little practice,pointing a fully auto gun and killing people not that hard.
Everyone is on antidepressants why would that matter?
The man just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. He did that. Seriously antifa? A man with that many guns is probably a trump supporter. If you have more than 10 guns odds are youre a white Republican. No one else needs that many guns.
I was amazed the repubs are coming around to banning bump stocks.
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One need only watch those Youtube videos to see that firing 100 rounds without interruption with a bump fire stock takes practice. It IS NOT something a novice gun owner can pick up and do. Eventually, somebody will be found who saw him practicing.
However, it's no mystery that using "more than 10 bags" to haul 23 (not 42) weapons with ammo over the course of four days in a busy hotel is not hard to do.
The cyclic rate of an AR-15 is about 650 rounds per minute. So, if in fact the shooter only fired for five minutes, that means he could have fired over 3,000 rounds into a massed crowd of 22,000. He had multiple weapons to prevent any one weapon from overheating and jamming; thus, leaving him unarmed. He was using laser scopes insuring that he was shooting into his target area but without any concern for individual targets. Given the dense mass of humanity in his target area, it's highly probably that several bullets inflicted multiple wounds on multiple people. At this time, it is not known how many of the wounded are actually shot or whether they were injured during the ensuing chaos of trying to escape. No mystery.
After locating the shooter, which happened in a matter of a few minutes, it took LE a further 50 minutes to secure and evacuate other hotel guests prior to breaching the door on the shooter's room. LE didn't know who or what was behind those doors, so they took precautions before they barged in. That meant they took the time to remove other guests before they made their assault. No mystery.
The paper on the desk was not a suicide note, per LE.
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10-06-2017, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey
You trumpers, full of conspiracy. If you don't understand something must be the msm, or obama, maybe hillary, but best guess, deep state.
It was a crazy white dude with a bunch of guns. You dont need extensive training to fire the guns, YouTube will provide the basic operations of each. And a little practice,pointing a fully auto gun and killing people not that hard.
Everyone is on antidepressants why would that matter?
The man just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. He did that. Seriously antifa? A man with that many guns is probably a trump supporter. If you have more than 10 guns odds are youre a white Republican. No one else needs that many guns.
I was amazed the repubs are coming around to banning bump stocks.
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WTF are you talking about? The only one jumping to conclusions is you. Dilbert just posted a link, period. Food for thought. Nobody here is jumping to conclusions. My guess there's more to this than police are letting on.
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10-06-2017, 07:55 AM
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My guess there's more to this than police are letting on.
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Good "guess"! Especially since the "police" and the Feds said so.
They even explained why they weren't "telling all" and why they were pissed when shit started leaking.
As "we" have seen (whether it was actually ingested is another matter) repeatedly over the years, on and off this forum and others on Eccie, what the media reports is inaccurate.
Some call it "Fake News" ... BULLSHIT is a better term.
BTW: Who the fuck is calling this guy a "novice"?
Also .. with respect to "casualties" ... as we post we do not know how many of he "527" were injured by being stampeded and trampled by fleeing, hysterical moving targets, some of whom ran in the direction from which shots were fired. Some witnesses described the "trampling" from the crowd/mob.
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10-06-2017, 08:43 AM
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Strange though how several days into the 24 hour news cycle and I haven't seen one news story about Paddock's social media. BTW, what was the reason given why they weren't telling the public "everything" LL?
Supposedly this guy had gone on hunting expeditions so he had some experience. My wife fired my AR15 a few weeks ago for first time with little problem. My brother fired it for the first time and at 100 yards he literally tore out the bullseye. The platform this Paddock used had a better sight and barrel.
The paranoia is at a fever pitch when they use the "more questions than answers" line. My bump stock was put on back order though
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10-06-2017, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey
You trumpers, full of conspiracy. If you don't understand something must be the msm, or obama, maybe hillary, but best guess, deep state.
It was a crazy white dude with a bunch of guns. You dont need extensive training to fire the guns, YouTube will provide the basic operations of each. And a little practice,pointing a fully auto gun and killing people not that hard.
Everyone is on antidepressants why would that matter?
The man just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. He did that. Seriously antifa? A man with that many guns is probably a trump supporter. If you have more than 10 guns odds are youre a white Republican. No one else needs that many guns.
I was amazed the repubs are coming around to banning bump stocks.
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And the guy who shot the republican baseball team? Was he a republican?
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10-06-2017, 09:21 AM
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...nt-want-talk-a
16 Unanswered Questions About The Las Vegas Shooting That Mainstream Media Doesn't Want To Talk About
[1]
by Tyler Durden [1]
Oct 5, 2017 8:15 AM
Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog, [4]
The public is not being told the truth about what really went down in Las Vegas.
[5]
As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance. But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself. We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups [6], and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him.
But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.
The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…
#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note [7]. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?
#2 Were there additional shooters? A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window [8]. A video from another angle [9] and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian [10] also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on. And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video [11] should definitely do it.
#3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor” [12], and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?
#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible [13] for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used. So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?
#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns [14] and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?
#6 How did someone with “no military background” [15] and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons? Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I really like how Natural News [16] made this point…Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.
Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.
#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die [17] 45 minutes before the attack?
#8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes [18] to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?
#9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 [19] to the Philippines last week?
#10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place? Did she know what was about to happen?
#11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?
#12 Why was ISIS so eager [20] to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection [21]?
#13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals” [22]. If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?
#14 Why did he move so frequently? It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.
#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked [23]?… In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.
From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”
#16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target? Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible? And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa [6] in any way?
At first I thought that this was a fairly straightforward story too, but the more I have dug into it the more complex things have become.
Personally, I have come to the conclusion that Stephen Paddock definitely did not act alone. That means that the others involved in the shooting are still out there, and they must be brought to justice. Let us never forget what these extremely wicked individuals did to innocent civilians such as 27-year-old Tina Frost [24]… A 27-year-old woman has lost her right eye after a bullet ripped through her face during the Las Vegas concert massacre.
Tina Frost remains in a coma in hospital after undergoing surgery to remove the bullet that became lodged in her eye when a gunman opened fire on the crowd of country music fans on Sunday night.
Frost, who is originally from Maryland but moved to California several years ago, is expected to remain in the coma for a week.
Whoever did this is going to pay greatly. Yes, I do believe that Stephen Paddock was involved. But he did not act alone, and the mainstream media is doing the public a great disservice by ignoring all of the evidence that this was not just a “lone wolf” operation.
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Michael Snyder [25] is a Republican candidate for Congress in Idaho’s First Congressional District, and you can learn how you can get involved in the campaign on his official website [26]. His new book entitled “Living A Life That Really Matters” [27] is available in paperback and for the Kindle on Amazon.com [27].
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I hate the fact that Trey agrees with me but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Any notion that there was more than one shooter in the Mandalay is blown away by the FACT there the only windows broken (that means shot out of) was on the 32nd floor.
Who the hell is Jon Rappoport and why is he an expert? I'm an avid shooter, I own an AR15 and I've owned an AK47. I've fired automatic weapons and I'm rated an Expert in both rifle and pistol. I don't see any reason why an average person CANNOT fire several hundred rounds in ten minutes, or 70 minutes. Hitting a target in that crowd is not difficult.
When I was younger I traveled across the country and took my arsenal with me. I rolled my rifles, shotguns, and handguns in a bedroll....two bedrolls actually. When I got to where I was going for the night I would put them on my shoulder and carry them inside. Ammunition is easy to move in mass. For the record that would be about eight rifles, two shotguns, and maybe nine handguns. Moving 32 (the number I've read) guns and ammo over four days would be easy. They give you a luggage cart and a couple of duffle bags would just about take care of the rifles.
72 minutes...you have to assemble, find the location, come up with a rudimentary plan, and make your way into the hotel. A security guard had been shot through the door so it was going to be a contested entry. Maybe with 20/20 hindsight the police could safety breech in 30 minutes.
I understand that Paddock was taking Valium. Someone offered the explanation that maybe he was tamping down his anxiety so he could perform better. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
Suddenly snapped? Ever hear of the millionaire who shot and killed an acquaintance? You'd have to ask, "which one". So many have suddenly "snapped". There is no snapping. They just reach a breaking point.
Some of those other points have no relevance to the story.
So far, with all the evidence that has to be recovered in painstaking detail. They have to put up a grid on the grass and around it. They have to count the brass and then try to find every bullet that was fired. They have to try to figure out with some certainty which bullet hit who or what.
Could he have pulled off the shooting only solo....probably. Could he escape? Probably not. Motive? Don't have one yet and we may never have one other than he wanted to be famous.
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For years, my generation could not come to grips with the fact that one insignifant piece of human shit like Lee Harvey Oswald could take down a President of the United States. There had to me more to it.
Years from now, this generation will still never come to grips with the fact that one man, for reasons only he knew in his warped mind, could stick multiple weapons out the widow of a hotel room and with no discrimination kill and maime multitudes of innocent people.
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