Lesson Learned

[dumars]

Had a power outage some 4 or so years ago. Got me to thinking about the next time when/if it happens again. Dropped $500 or so in some survival essentials:

2 cases of MREs.
1 battery backup
1 solar charger
4 "100 hour candles"
Other assorted sundry items.

My son and daughter and older grand kids rolled their eyes when I told them what I had done.

Couple months ago had another outage. My phone was almost drained . . . then hark! I have a backup battery. Found it, had been in storage for 3 years and it STILL had enough charge to top off the phone! Cha Ching! No power, so no lights, HARK, I have candles! Whipped out two of the 100 hour candles, we have light! Cha Ching! Morning came, sunlight, whipped out the solar charger, plugged it into the backup battery and we're charging! Cha Ching! That night, charged up the phone again! Cha Ching!! Second day, food in frig pretty much spoiled, HARK we have MREs, Cha Ching! Power was restored about 48 hours after it cut out.

This past weekend, had another outage, lasted 'bout 12 hours but my phone was charged and I had light! Cha Ching!

Moral of the story, kids ain't rolling their eyes at the ol' man any more! Cha Ching!!!!! Love it when a plan comes together!!!

[timmystool]

Originally Posted by dumars

Had a power outage some 4 or so years ago. Got me to thinking about the next time when/if it happens again. Dropped $500 or so in some survival essentials:

2 cases of MREs.
1 battery backup
1 solar charger
4 "100 hour candles"
Other assorted sundry items.
!!

nice work

what kind of solar charger?
do you know a way to power your whole house via generator? opr do I have to call someone for that?
solar powerd iphone chargers are the best

[dumars]

Don't have a brand name stamped on the charger. I got the fold away type. I would recommend the highest output. Pays in the end. I would not use the charger to charge the phone. Reason is simple. You're off WiFi, phones use more power on cell, meaning you'll have the phone plugged in all day and the charge won't last that long. Charging the battery then charging the phone from the battery at night keeps you running. Charge the phone 1st if it's dead but as an option I'd go with the battery first!

The battery I got is a "Limefuel". Again, I'd recommend the highest storage and max output dependent on the USB ports. My battery is a little smaller than my iPhone but 3 or so times thicker. One mistake I made on the battery is to make sure the outputs are the same. Should be 2.1A(mps). A fully charged battery should charge your phone several times, depending on the capacity of the battery of course. Thus my recommendation above. Go for the max and still be portable!! Again, pays dividends when it counts.

Believe it or not I spent a little time early this afternoon looking up emergency generators. Most (on Amazon), 10,000 +/- output, gas are $800 - $1200. That should run the whole house while rationing what you're using. Prices take off with Generac and Honda! $2K - $3K. No shit!

You cannot run the whole house on a portable solar system and they're twice as much as the gas. You'll have to ration the power like run refrigerator a couple hours, turn off a couple hours, turn back on, etc. Advisable to do the same with the gas too but don't have to if you got enough generator. You're basically spending $1k more for the quiet. That same $1k will buy an awful lot of gas! Just piss off the neighbors! Your microwave works, theirs don't and your beer is cold!

I'm sure I forgot something but you can figure it out! If not, PM or reply, we'll figure it out.

[dumars]

One thing I did forget that could be important.

Get an extra long USB cable! Reason is your battery/phone will be charging in the sun. If it's hot, it's going to cook in the heat. The extra long cable will let you put the charger in the sun and the device(s) in the shade.

That's it!

[AlbusMilitis]

Dumb question - why not just charge the phone with your car?

I've got a generator...pros: in the aftermath of an ice storm, you won't be looking for the sun on a cloudy day. Cons: Loud (unless you pony up $2k for the Honda). Also, be prepared to have around 20 gallons of gas can available.

Not an option for me, but there are natural gas generators that save you the effort of hauling gas.

Btw, the portable generators will come with some octopus of cable that you are supposed to plug appliances into. Life is much simpler if you modify it to power the house's electrical panel...usually (per what you agree to in the fine print when you sign up for power) this is done by an electrician, who adds a small box and switch near the main panel. However, if you know what you are doing, you can back feed the panel through the dryer outlet.

One more dumb question...why mre's? They're expensive and bland. Why not plain ole canned food?

[timmystool]

Originally Posted by AlbusMilitis

One more dumb question...why mre's? They're expensive and bland. Why not plain ole canned food?

or ENSURE? etc?

dried food.....

but the botttom line with food, you arnt gonna die for a LONG time., if you had NO food, you need water, not food.....

[ghostinmachine]

Quick observation: In an emergency, you have to decide if you stay put (shelter in place) or bug out.

Canned goods are great if you are staying put. MREs and camping food are light and easier to transport.

[super_delfin00]

Or just live in a neighborhood with buried lines, and minimize the chance of outages.

[AlbusMilitis]

Originally Posted by super_delfin00

Or just live in a neighborhood with buried lines, and minimize the chance of outages.

Some of us enjoy living 'away from it all'.

[timmystool]

Originally Posted by ghostinmachine

Quick observation: In an emergency, you have to decide if you stay put (shelter in place) or bug out.

Canned goods are great if you are staying put. MREs and camping food are light and easier to transport.

yeah and go well with zombie meat

this is a benefit to living in the midwest, zombies won't get us here!

[dumars]

Originally Posted by AlbusMilitis

Dumb question - why not just charge the phone with your car?

I've got a generator...pros: in the aftermath of an ice storm, you won't be looking for the sun on a cloudy day. Cons: Loud (unless you pony up $2k for the Honda). Also, be prepared to have around 20 gallons of gas can available.

Not an option for me, but there are natural gas generators that save you the effort of hauling gas.

Btw, the portable generators will come with some octopus of cable that you are supposed to plug appliances into. Life is much simpler if you modify it to power the house's electrical panel...usually (per what you agree to in the fine print when you sign up for power) this is done by an electrician, who adds a small box and switch near the main panel. However, if you know what you are doing, you can back feed the panel through the dryer outlet.

One more dumb question...why mre's? They're expensive and bland. Why not plain ole canned food?

Charging the phone by car is an option and I've done it. Do you really want to idle your car for 5+ hours? I'd rather not!

Natural gas generators are high on my list after I buy a home. Otherwise, have to deal with gas/propane/kerosene.

Why MREs? Convenience. Bland? Maybe but Chef boy R Dee ain't that tasty either! For me I have very little food in cans. I also have a supply of Mountain House breakfasts. MRE meals don't lend themselves to what my brain accepts as "breakfast". I also have a supply of Bridgeford "Sandwiches". Basically overgrown pop tarts. Again, I've got flavors that my brain accepts as "breakfast". I've taste tested other brands of camping food. I'll stick with MREs. P.S. One thing I have learned is NEVER equate "serving" as meaning equal to a meal. If you make that mistake, you're gonna starve.

I'm not doing any of this to prep for nuclear holocaust or the zombie apocalypse. Whether it's a transformer that blows up in the neighborhood from heat or a Cat 5 tornado rolls through I just want to keep myself from becoming a refugee thereby relying on others. Think of the Oklahoma tornadoes and the earthquake in Japan. Power outages are good for training.

[AlbusMilitis]

Originally Posted by dumars

Charging the phone by car is an option and I've done it. Do you really want to idle your car for 5+ hours? I'd rather not!

It won't kill a car battery to charge a phone or two...or 25. No need to run the car.

[dumars]

Originally Posted by AlbusMilitis

It won't kill a car battery to charge a phone or two...or 25. No need to run the car.

Hey, run a test let us know how long it takes to kill the battery! 'Specially in the winter!! Bet'cha ain't as long as you think! First quote in my signature applies!! My battery died years ago with the door cracked open! My overhead lights are off sometimes, as they were then, so didn't notice. I learn from my fuckups!!!!

[AlbusMilitis]

Have you ever listened to the radio with the engine off? A 6 amp car radio played for a half hour is equivalent to 3 hours charging a 1 amp phone. I commonly play the radio for an entire Chiefs game, including pregame and post game shows.

Do whatever you want...but trust me, a freaking car battery can charge a cell phone...and if you're really worried about it, a 90 amp alternator has around 40 amps to spare with the lights and everything turned off...so running the car 4-5 minutes will replenish the 3 amp hours the phone took. No need to run it for hours.

[dumars]

Originally Posted by AlbusMilitis

Have you ever listened to the radio with the engine off?

Yup and killed the battery a few times in my life!!!

Originally Posted by AlbusMilitis

Do whatever you want..

Thanks, I will! You run with theory and assumptions, I run with experience! Been there, done that! Back up plan to the backup plan. Sleep mucho more better when all bases are covered!