Great conservative books

[john_galt]

I know this brings out the trolls but I was called into work tonight and we started talking about Atlas Shrugged. Others started comparing it to other conservative novels. I suggested that maybe a class could be taught in these novels at KU. So I'm looking for a list of what you consider to be great books with a conservative message that translates politically. So I would leave out the Narnia books.

Nothing here for trolls to comment on but you know them.

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell
Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein
A Time for Rage by David Gerrold

[catnipdipper]

Great Conservative Books..............Oxymoron

[Kshunter]

"Conscience of a Conservative" by Barry Goldwater.

[john_galt]

I'm looking more at novels rather than biographies or hard knowledge books.

[Kshunter]

Since novels are, by their nature, an exercise in fantasy and fiction, it seems that the genre would lend itself much better to liberalism.

[catnipdipper]

Mein Kampf

How the Holocaust is a myth by Ahmadinijad and the Iranians.

My Experiments by Joseph Mengele

Human Logistics for the Reich by Adolph Eichmann

If you tell the big lie loud and long enough the sheep will follow.

[Guest052813-01]

Originally Posted by catnipdipper

Mein Kampf

How the Holocaust is a myth by Ahmadinijad and the Iranians.

My Experiments by Joseph Mengele

Human Logistics for the Reich by Adolph Eichmann

If you tell the big lie loud and long enough the sheep will follow.

Contrary to your spewing of hatred, three of these four books were written by "National Socialists", about as far left-wing as you can get. You need to re-evaluate your thinking so you can use another 1% of your brain - you might just get it to 16%.

As far as your last statement, does "Earth in the Balance" by Algore fall into that category?

[catnipdipper]

I don't believe that history would support the liberals or the progressives as having any conspiracy in the Holocaust or in supporting the Nazi cause.

Truly Herr Fritz

[Guest052813-01]

No, but they do figure in the Global Warming conspiracy and the lies associated with that propaganda machine.

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by fritz3552

No, but they do figure in the Global Warming conspiracy and the lies associated with that propaganda machine.

Actually the national socialist party was a far right wing authoritarian, racist party known in Germany as the Nazi Party. The term socialist in this case refered to the belief in the rise of a genertically pure all white society, its not a reference to socialism. Your historian compatriot should know this.

[Cheaper2buyit]

The Quran in its pure form

[john_galt]

Wow, what ignorance on display.
Racism has nothing to do with politics. The Soviets were very racist as were the Japanese. The Nazis were racist and so were the British. Once again, racism has nothing to do with politics.
Former Corporal Hitler was a member of the Socialist party of Germany but he had a problem. He was a German and didn't like the idea of international communism. So he checked out the National Socialists and found them to his liking. They believed in big government controlling, but not owning, industry. They believed in a centrally planned economy just like the socialists. They believed in Germany and it's superiority and that is where they differed from the Socialists and Communists. Other than that many of their tactics were the same and the goals were the same. You can complain and you can howl all you want but Nazism is left wing with a strain of nationalism. Nationalism is on both the right and the left. On the right they believe in the country and on the left they believe in the international front.

But none of this has nothing to do with the question so I'm going to deduct 100 pts apiece.

[catnipdipper]

"Racism has nothing to do with Politics"

WTF do you think the civil rights movement was about? Segregation was law enacted by political legislatures. The Civil Rights Act was political. The Civil War was political.

Your comment ranks right up there with "you are doing a hell of a job Brownie."

[guest010313]

Originally Posted by john_galt

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell
Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand
A Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein
A Time for Rage by David Gerrold

Having read every single book on this list except the Gerrold I feel confident in saying that marking off dystopian future history as across the board "conservative" is HIGHLY misleading.

I'll give you the Rand books, but the rest........

[john_galt]

Take Harrison Bergeron; society had become a place where everyone was "equal". Results didn't matter to anyone. It was punishable to be able to perform better. The law stepped in and guaranteed equality not be raising people up but by breaking the exceptional down.
Every college student knows that Animal Farm is an indictment of socialism from someone who used to be one.
Conservatism is about individual achievement and not the equalization of outcomes by things like income redistribution at the point of a gun. Classical liberalism is in many ways similar to modern conservatism but we live in the time of neo-liberalism or the progressive.
David Gerrold like Robert Heinlein writes science fiction with a message. He is also known for writing the episode of Star Trek, The Trouble with Tribbles.