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05-25-2017, 08:57 AM
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Prime Minister May To Ask President Trump To Quit Leaking Manchester Bombing Intell....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...uvO?li=BBnb7Kz
Perhaps British Prime Minister May doesn't understand that President Trump has little authority in telling a US Media Outlet what it can publish.
The President, in conjunction with our Intelligence Agencies can find out who is doing the leaking and if laws were broken, take appropriate measures. But once the News Outlet has the info, they are pretty much free do do what they wish with it.
A lot of people may not like it, but that's what the 1st Amendment is about.
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05-25-2017, 09:15 AM
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This is fucking RICH!
So, jack, your position seems to be ... you can't fuck with our constitution. Only WE can fuck with our fucking constitution.
Remember that next time you cry about the media, bitch!
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05-25-2017, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...uvO?li=BBnb7Kz
Perhaps British Prime Minister May doesn't understand that President Trump has little authority in telling a US Media Outlet what it can publish.
The President, in conjunction with our Intelligence Agencies can find out who is doing the leaking and if laws were broken, take appropriate measures. But once the News Outlet has the info, they are pretty much free do do what they wish with it.
A lot of people may not like it, but that's what the 1st Amendment is about.
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You completely missed the point.
This isn't about the Brits not understanding the US's First Amendment. Pretty sure Prime Minister May is quite aware of how our Constitution and Bill of Rights work.
It's about command and control of US intelligence agencies, which should not leak like a sieve, especially when sensitive investigations are underway and when recklessness can cost lives. The US President should at all times make every effort to assure that doesn't happen, and apparently PM May has every intent of imploring him to do so. Nothing inappropriate about that.
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05-25-2017, 11:25 AM
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You completely missed the point.
This isn't about the Brits not understanding the US's First Amendment. Pretty sure Prime Minister May is quite aware of how our Constitution and Bill of Rights work.
It's about command and control of US intelligence agencies, which should not leak like a sieve, especially when sensitive investigations are underway and when recklessness can cost lives. The US President should at all times make every effort to assure that doesn't happen, and apparently PM May has every intent of imploring him to do so. Nothing inappropriate about that.
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My point is, it may be illegal for Government Officials to leak classified information, but the News Paper or Media Outlet that recieves the leak is just about invulnerable to any legal repercussions due to our 1st Amendment protection.
In a Costitutional Republic, you have to take the good with the bad.
It's the "I might find your beliefs and actions deplorable, but I will defend to the death your right to express them".
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05-25-2017, 11:28 AM
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Loose lips sink ships.
Is the USS Trump sinking?
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05-25-2017, 12:21 PM
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Pretty soon no country will share info with the US.
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05-25-2017, 12:41 PM
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The Prime Minister agreed that Trump had NOTHING to do with the leaks but they came from the intelligence apparatus working to undermine Trump. You know those Deep State assholes who work for Obama. So blame Obama and hope this guys get caught and prosecuted.
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05-25-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
My point is, it may be illegal for Government Officials to leak classified information, but the News Paper or Media Outlet that recieves the leak is just about invulnerable to any legal repercussions due to our 1st Amendment protection.
In a Costitutional Republic, you have to take the good with the bad.
It's the "I might find your beliefs and actions deplorable, but I will defend to the death your right to express them".
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The key point is that PM May's beef is not with the press, which is what you insinuated.
Taking action against the leakers is like deciding to lock the barn door when the stolen horses have already been moved to another state. If you don't ensure discipline within the intelligence agencies, some of their actions may be worse than useless.
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05-25-2017, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
The Prime Minister agreed that Trump had NOTHING to do with the leaks but they came from the intelligence apparatus working to undermine Trump. You know those Deep State assholes who work for Obama. So blame Obama and hope this guys get caught and prosecuted.
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You blame Obama for Trump's troubles like some blamed Bush for Obama's.
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05-25-2017, 07:12 PM
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I blame the leakers who work for Obama. Big difference. Now if Obama doesn't call off his dogs and fade away into obscurity then it is on him.
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05-25-2017, 09:05 PM
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I blame the leakers who work for Obama. Big difference. Now if Obama doesn't call off his dogs and fade away into obscurity then it is on him.
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Flash, Obama isn't president any more, they don't work for him.
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05-25-2017, 11:31 PM
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Pretty soon no country will share info with the US.
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Strange how none of these countries had these concerns when our Secretary Of State had a home brew email server in her closet at her personal residence. And kept losing blackberries, ipads and laptops.
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05-25-2017, 11:35 PM
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Flash, Obama isn't president any more, they don't work for him.
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You sure about that? Go to many Dim websites and you'll see how Obama is running a shadow presidency and protecting his legacy. Has everyone of his hires been let go?
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05-25-2017, 11:36 PM
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Strange how none of these countries had these concerns when our Secretary Of State had a home brew email server in her closet at her personal residence. And kept losing blackberries, ipads and laptops.
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of course not. she made it so easy to hack her that a fat 14 year living in his mom's basement could do it. and did for all we know.
funny that the DNC never allowed the FBI to inspect their servers after they got hacked. i wonder why?
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05-25-2017, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ex-CEO
The key point is that PM May's beef is not with the press, which is what you insinuated.
Taking action against the leakers is like deciding to lock the barn door when the stolen horses have already been moved to another state. If you don't ensure discipline within the intelligence agencies, some of their actions may be worse than useless.
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We've got a big IT problem in the Federal Govt. They play by a separate set of rules than private industry. If you don't comply with different regulations like Sarbanes-Oxley your companies CEO could go to jail. Don't comply with different state and federal tax laws? Your CFO and many of the top CPAs could go to jail. Don't comply with the many records retention acts? People from all over the company could go to jail.
The top brass have to sign various compliance documents testifying compliance to various rules, regulations and reporting requirements. Failure to do so means SEC could start pulling licenses.
Do the Feds need to comply with a bunch of this? No. It's not because they are not a private entity. It's just because they have exempted themselves from the rules. Billions if not Trillions of dollars are unaccounted for and the Feds just go on their merry way.
The Feds need to eat their own dog food.
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