gaining momentum

[deacon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbgoi...layer_embedded

[Longermonger]

Trump claims that Obama has spent millions hiding his birth certificate. Prove it!

That's a made up number and the only way you get close to it is if you consider every dollar paid to the President's law firm as being used to hide his birth certificate.

Still, I am amused at how easily Trump fools the Tea Partiers. Way to troll, Donald!

[Guest052813-01]

Originally Posted by Longermonger

Trump claims that Obama has spent millions hiding his birth certificate. Prove it!

That's a made up number and the only way you get close to it is if you consider every dollar paid to the President's law firm as being used to hide his birth certificate.

Still, I am amused at how easily Trump fools the Tea Partiers. Way to troll, Donald!

The "proof" is the fact that, despite repeated requests to produce a valid birth certificate, the Bamster has not produced one. It would resolve a lot of the questions and would shut up the "birthers" once and for all. What is the Bamster afraid of? What is he hiding? It is similar to the uproar from when W.J. Clinton would not release his medical records during his presidency - the difference being that medical records are protected by statute and are not required to prove your citizenship.

[Longermonger]

Why on Earth would he want to shut up the birthers? Let them rant. It keeps them busy and undermines all of the Tea Baggers.

Nevermind that he has produced his Certificate of Live Birth, or that his requirement to prove his citizenship has been met.

If you're angry you should focus that anger on the Republicans in Hawaii that won't produce his Birth Certificate, and say that his Certificate of Live Birth is just as good.

That said, Obama may have a reason to hide his Hawaiian Birth Certificate (if the original still exists). His mommy might have entered 'Muslim' on it. A thinking person knows that a newborn baby has no control over what gets printed on their Birth Certificate. But I don't consider Tea Baggers thinking persons, so...

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

I still cannot understand the whole birther movement. My understanding is that you can't get a certificate of live birth from a state (which is what you get if you request a copy of your BC), unless an actual birth certificate was registered with the state.

I know I can't get any kind of certificate from Missouri because I was not born here. However, when I needed a copy of my birth certificate, I went online and filled out a form for the state of Colorado, where I was born. For a fee of $25, guess what I got? A certificate of live birth.

Seriously, birthers just need to shut the fuck up. They are so humiliating.

[guest010313]

Google is your friend.

[guest010313]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

So is Snopes.

[Guest052813-01]

I think that what the big complaint is that the certificate that was produced is NOT the one that has the embossed seal of either the dept. of health for the state of Hawaii or the county records department in Honolulu. I know that when I ordered my birth certificate, I recieved a copy of the original certificate on file at the county records department of the city where I was born with the raised embossed seal for the county's department of vital statistics.

Of course, he may not have been born...he could have been hatched. Or he may not have a father listed on the b/c - if you believe he is the Messiah or the personification of Darth Vader....

[guest010313]

His father is listed. The birth certificate is valid.

Quit reinforcing midwestern stereotypes.

[lakecat]

Midwest sterotypes, that's painting with a broad brush.

When I think of Midwest stereotypes I think of hard working, honest, straight talking, salt of the earth people. What did you have in mind?

[guest010313]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_evolution_hearings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

[Philhelm]

Our great Lord, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, is real. He is found within nature and is all around us, and in us. My only problem is that I think it is sacreligious to depict the Flying Spaghetti Monster, since it is a form of idolatry.

[guest010313]

He is Cthulu's little bro right?

[Ares71]

Any time FSM is involved, I wanna be there! HAPPY FRIDAY!!! Mmmm.. Beer and Noodles!

[john_galt]

For some of you, I don't KNOW where Obama was born. All I have is his word on the matter but here are some of the facts that vex some; A certified, official copy of Obama's birth certificate has never been proffered. Live birth is not the same thing. If Obama was born in Hawaii then that is the end of the story but in 1961 the naturalization laws were different (they changed them in 1967). Two Americans living abroad could pass their citizenship onto their child if they were married. Remember a different day. Two people having a child overseas could each grant their citizenship to their child but the father was usually considered the guardian. Barack's father was a British colonial subject. Barack's parents were not legally married. No marriage license has been presented and it is known that Barack was already married to a woman in Kenya with two children. According to US law, they were not married so it comes into question whether Barack Sr. could pass his English citizenship along. The law also says that a woman can't pass along her citizenship until she has been an age of majority for at least five years. Barack's mother was only 17 when she hooked up with Barack Sr. They never lived together as man and wife. So it a very muddied situation but if Barack was born in Hawaii then it is all moot.

So don't you think a leader would want to clear the decks for action by putting all of this stuff to rest? A rabble rouser won't but a leader would. So, assuming Barack has the goods (a birth certificate) doesn't he look petty for not presenting it and moving on?