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Old 06-27-2016, 05:57 PM   #1
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Default Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell Conviction Overturned

0zombies, care to splain? Especially this part---> "See the issue"? <-- this

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ll-conviction/


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You won’t see this in the MSM headline news of the day’s events because it cuts directly against their preferred narrative.

The Supreme Court ruled 8-0 today to nullify the federal conviction of former Virginia Governor Bob McConnell on bribery and corruption charges (full ruling pdf below). 8 to 0, the entire court agreed, the conviction was politically motivated and not grounded in law.

Why? Why did every justice agree, even the liberal justices? ….and they went one step further in ordering the lower courts to reconsider whether the government’s evidence of corruption is strong enough to even try him again. If not, the charges against him must be dismissed, according to the ruling.

The why is really quite simple. If you’ve ever heard James Carville or any Clinton spokesperson talk about the book “Clinton Cash“, you’ll see quickly what was at stake.

The case against Bob McDonnell was based on him accepting gifts while an elected public official. Accepting gifts and/or donations itself is not illegal. Does it look untoward, unsavory or tawdry, yes. But if the official (recipient) takes no substantive action to benefit the contributor, meaning there is no quid-pro-quo, then no laws have been broken.


Contributions are only bribery when the official takes an official action, as part of their public office, to the benefit of the person providing the contribution, that would not have been taken to the benefit of any other similar request that does not contain a contribution.

In essence McDonnell and his wife took gifts, but the federal prosecutors could not identify any specific action that was taken to the substantive benefit of the donor, that McDonnell had not also taken to the benefit of other constituents who did not provide gifts or donations.

Also, SCOTUS warns, correctly and appropriately, that federal prosecutors applying liberally-defined ideological definitions of an elected official “taking action” directly undermines the entire concept of representative government.

Politicians are expected to advocate on behalf of their constituents needs, and in this case McDonnell took no action that would be out-of-bounds of the normal advocacy anticipated from any elected official.

The entire prosecution of McDonnell was politically motivated by federal prosecutors who could not evidence any quid-pro-quo of action McDonnell took on behalf of the donor who gave him lavish gifts.

Even the four liberal justices recognized this fundamental flaw of prosecutorial logic in the government’s case. But there’s a larger issue; a larger contrasting issue.

If Governor McDonnell was factually guilty of the accusations, as presented by the federal prosecution, then what does that say about the EXTREME gifts and payments that Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation were given by foreign governments while she was Secretary of State.

See the issue?

President Obama, Officials Attend 9/11 Memorial Museum Opening Ceremony

Hillary Clinton took -by a magnitude of thousands- more contributions, donations, and gifts than McConnell ever conceived of. The defense of those contributions and donations by the Clinton advocates has been very specific. They claim Clinton took no official action on behalf of those who gave her gifts, donations and contributions.

If McDonnell was to have been guilty by the definitions applied by federal prosecutors, then Hillary Clinton was guilty by an exponential magnitude for all of the lavish indulgences presented to her during her tenure as Secretary of State.

That’s why the decision today was 8-0 to nullify the lower court ruling.
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:51 PM   #2
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You gave yourself 5 stars on this?
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:57 PM   #3
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That wasn't all that was overturned.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ican-politics/
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:30 PM   #4
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Is this like Rick Perry's trumped up bribery charge?
Or the railroading of Ted Stevens?

Beyond contemptible.

But let's put more innocent Baltimore policemen on trial. And get the DOJ involved.

Thanks Obama.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:28 AM   #5
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the DOJ over the last 7 plus years have become very political and their prosecutions are becoming tools of this incumbent political party

the recent US Attorney, is it in Idaho? has threatened prosecution for free speech

the liberal attorneys general in various states have taken their cue as well, threatening and investigating "climate change deniers" such as exxon

the just recently decided platform of the dims this election cycle has imbedded this fascist mindset as well
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:19 AM   #6
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the DOJ over the last 7 plus years have become very political and their prosecutions are becoming tools of this incumbent political party

the recent US Attorney, is it in Idaho? has threatened prosecution for free speech

the liberal attorneys general in various states have taken their cue as well, threatening and investigating "climate change deniers" such as exxon

the just recently decided platform of the dims this election cycle has imbedded this fascist mindset as well
That is scary. You are right. The Democrats adopted a plank in their platform criminalizing free speech. This is how it starts.
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