Truth is, I'm confused about this immigration ruling.

[Jackie S]

This latest SCOTUS ruling says that President Obama's executive order was illegal. Or at least he overstepped his authority. The ruling goes back to the Appeals Court's ruling, so the States that brought the suite won.

But here is something I don't understand. The executive order more or less in simple terms, stated that parents of children who were born here would not be subject to deportation, even though those parents were here illegally.

The problem is, you can't deport a US Citizen. These children are citizens, period.

If you deport the parents, who takes care of the children.

Of course, this is all our faults. Democrats want a new class of underclass to pander to and get votes from, many Republicans want cheap labor. So we just let anybody across the border that can make it across.


But we still, legally, cannot deport legal US Citizens.

What's the answer to this mess, or has that ship left port long time ago.

You would think that at the very least the Government would do something to fix this mess so at least we can stop the flow now.

[gnadfly]

It's worse than that. Obama told the Border Patrol to let many in. They just need to say the right words. Then they never show up for court. Then they get free housing, free healthcare, free food, free education. ad nuseaum. Next they'll get a voter's card and handgun.

Transformation complete.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

It's worse than that. Obama told the Border Patrol to let many in. They just need to say the right words. Then they never show up for court. Then they get free housing, free healthcare, free food, free education. ad nuseaum. Next they'll get a voter's card and handgun.

Transformation complete.

proof positive of why i called him the "Manchurian Candidate" years ago. he is what he is.

the destroyer of America. reject him. burn him and his spawn alive. convict Obama of treason, then kill the bastard. and his offspring. and the Clintons. traitors against America. the punishment is DEATH.

assup. express your "outrage" so we can all have a good laugh. pig. traitor. communist. traitor. did i say traitor twice? yep.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

This latest SCOTUS ruling says that President Obama's executive order was illegal. Or at least he overstepped his authority. The ruling goes back to the Appeals Court's ruling, so the States that brought the suite won.

But here is something I don't understand. The executive order more or less in simple terms, stated that parents of children who were born here would not be subject to deportation, even though those parents were here illegally.

The problem is, you can't deport a US Citizen. These children are citizens, period.

If you deport the parents, who takes care of the children.

Of course, this is all our faults. Democrats want a new class of underclass to pander to and get votes from, many Republicans want cheap labor. So we just let anybody across the border that can make it across.


But we still, legally, cannot deport legal US Citizens.

What's the answer to this mess, or has that ship left port long time ago.

You would think that at the very least the Government would do something to fix this mess so at least we can stop the flow now.

If I went to a foreign country and had a child, could I then demand that nation take care of me and my child at their expense? Or, would they have the right to kick my ass oughtta there?

The kid then goes to an orphanage and has to ask for a second helping of soup when he or she gets hungry.

Cruel fucking world out there, I hear.

[CuteOldGuy]

The children born of parents who are here illegally have criminals as parents. The kids can stay, the parents must go. It's not unusual to take children away from criminal parents.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by DSK

If I went to a foreign country and had a child, could I then demand that nation take care of me and my child at their expense? Or, would they have the right to kick my ass oughtta there?

With their bare fists?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

It's worse than that. Obama told the Border Patrol to let many in. They just need to say the right words.

Transformation complete.

I haven't looked yet, but if I heard correctly last night, .....

...Obaminable pronounced that those who have COMMITTED CRIMES will not be deported!!!!!!!!! If that is remotely accurate ....

The "Chief Law Enforcement Officer in the Nation" is ...

..... promoting criminal behavior????

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I haven't looked yet, but if I heard correctly last night, .....

...Obaminable pronounced that those who have COMMITTED CRIMES will not be deported!!!!!!!!! If that is remotely accurate ....

The "Chief Law Enforcement Officer in the Nation" is ...

..... promoting criminal behavior!

You just got it backwards lexie.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration...ids-wisconsin/

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I haven't looked yet, but if I heard correctly last night, .....

...Obaminable pronounced that those who have COMMITTED CRIMES will not be deported!!!!!!!!! If that is remotely accurate ....

The "Chief Law Enforcement Officer in the Nation" is ...

..... promoting criminal behavior????

Odumbo is a congenital, equivocating liar. By definition, "illegals" have committed a crime.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

You just got it backwards lexie.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration...ids-wisconsin/

No, I don't. The SCOTUS has left in place the narrow ruling of the 5th circuit.

If a person appears in court on a criminal case and they are here illegally, what happens to them? They are convicted and sentenced. They remain here.

The Judge can order them "deported"? No. No jurisdiction to do so.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

With their bare fists?

Whatever it takes!

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

This latest SCOTUS ruling says that President Obama's executive order was illegal. Or at least he overstepped his authority. The ruling goes back to the Appeals Court's ruling, so the States that brought the suite won.

But here is something I don't understand. The executive order more or less in simple terms, stated that parents of children who were born here would not be subject to deportation, even though those parents were here illegally.

The problem is, you can't deport a US Citizen. These children are citizens, period.

If you deport the parents, who takes care of the children.

Of course, this is all our faults. Democrats want a new class of underclass to pander to and get votes from, many Republicans want cheap labor. So we just let anybody across the border that can make it across.


But we still, legally, cannot deport legal US Citizens.

What's the answer to this mess, or has that ship left port long time ago.

You would think that at the very least the Government would do something to fix this mess so at least we can stop the flow now.

Essentially you have it but you've made a couple of mistakes; citizens have been deported under Woodrow Wilson so that is a precedent for deportation. Socialist, anarchists, and some other undesireables were deported to the Soviet Union.

According to the Constitution only the Congress can make immigration law. The SCOTUS confirmed that. Of course, Obama said that he was going to ignore the law and the court and refuse to enforce the law.

Yes, those parents can be departed and they can take their children with them (that is not technically deportation) or they can leave their children to legal relatives or friends. Some of those children are adults. Don't think that they are all rugrats. What would you do with two parents who were criminals? Excuse them for the sake of the children because we are ultimately talking about law breakers.

Obama was wrong, he broke the law but in politics it means never having to say you're sorry or how do you like your cellmate?

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by DSK

Whatever it takes!

Assup piggy mamboolah makes many references to " bare fists ". Could it be a subconscious cry for MORE fisting to be done TO HIM down at the 'holes ? IJS

[southtown4488]

most of the parents came here to work, when they get kicked out and their kids are left here. . . then the state must take care of them till theyre 18.

Kicking the parents out actually costs the govbt money, plus a hard worker is lost and their tax revenue is lost.

If they are working and don't have any felonies or violent crimes they should be allowed to stay. . .at the very least with an extended work permit (as long as they stay productive members of society).

[DSK]

Originally Posted by southtown4488

most of the parents came here to work, when they get kicked out and their kids are left here. . . then the state must take care of them till theyre 18.

Kicking the parents out actually costs the govbt money, plus a hard worker is lost and their tax revenue is lost.

If they are working and don't have any felonies or violent crimes they should be allowed to stay. . .at the very least with an extended work permit (as long as they stay productive members of society).

I can go along with that but no special path to citizenship, and they must leave when the work permit expires, and take their family with them, unless they can afford to stay and pay their own way like a tourist.

As always, rich people are welcome to come here, pay their own way, and not vote.