No means No

[jwin]

Has anyone every had a person that will not leave you alone and how did you deal with them? I have just had a very disturbing experience from a provider who does not understand the words do not contact. Blocked her and she just started texting from another number, informed her to stop contacting me here yet she continues. I understand rejection is hard to take sometimes but damn, please don't send me a page long FU letter because I refused to see you.

[squashhead]

Hmm, sounds like Fast Gunn's saga in "When the bitch refuses", except the roles are reversed

[Its-Time]

just ignore they move on rather quick after not getting a response to feed there hunger for the drama

[Precious_b]

Disregard.

[wiseguy60]

I always thought it was that I was too nice and had a job that paid well.

The first and worst time it happened it was a provider in the Philly area who I really hit it off with. It all started on the first visit. She seemed to have a good time. When she left I found her wallet so I call her and she came back. I met her in the parking lot and gave it back to her. I didn't think anything of at the time but the next night she called and asked me out (a freebie) around town.

Next time I came to Philly we went out another couple of times. A few weeks later she went on "tour" and came to Huntsville. She called my work, my cell phone, and then was waiting for me at my house (don't know how she figured it all out). It was like a girl friend break up when I told her I was not interested.

Never again did I use my real phone or real name.

Is that what is happening to you?

[ArisRose]

Oh shit.........

[jwin]

Originally Posted by wiseguy60

I always thought it was that I was too nice and had a job that paid well.

The first and worst time it happened it was a provider in the Philly area who I really hit it off with. It all started on the first visit. She seemed to have a good time. When she left I found her wallet so I call her and she came back. I met her in the parking lot and gave it back to her. I didn't think anything of at the time but the next night she called and asked me out (a freebie) around town.

Next time I came to Philly we went out another couple of times. A few weeks later she went on "tour" and came to Huntsville. She called my work, my cell phone, and then was waiting for me at my house (don't know how she figured it all out). It was like a girl friend break up when I told her I was not interested.

Never again did I use my real phone or real name.

Is that what is happening to you?

No its nothing like that I have never met her, was interested at one time but decided she wasn't my cup of tea and now I'm glad I didn't see her.

[Piratenala]

PS Always use a burner phone. They are too cheap and too easy to get.

[Sexy Katrina]

You could always get a new hobby phone or change your number.
I think the best way to handle someone like that is to completely ignore them.

[gimme_that]

Man this sounds famaliar. Which I knew who it was to confirm my suspicions as accurate. I haven't told any ladies no often....but I have had a few ladys write diatribe essay about why I had to cancel or reschedule an appointment seeing them although it was supremely advanced notice when I did.

If you let me read your hate mail, Ill let you read mine. We can compare notes lol.

[CocoBrown]

when you have a client that attempts to a provider and the provider wont entertain them in their cat and mouse pursuit, the client may get upset and try to bad mouth the provider. ive been on the board for years and never have issues with drama, or gossip. Unfortunately after this incident I guess Im not able to say that any more... a client that has been pming me since 2013 "trying to set up an appointment" got angry because of the rate that I quoted him. Instead of saying he wasn't interested, and moving on in a polite professional manner, he chose to say some choice comments to me that I felt were disrespectful and out of place. One thing for sure I do not care to hear rude advice on how to run my business from someone I don't not know or care to meet. if you call me slut and whore the response you will get will be even worse... He hopped on the board and flipped it around posting threads saying I was bothering him sending him 5 to 6 messages a day, like I was so hard up to see him. That is complete bullshit. If you call me a dumb whore and tell me I cant read don't get mad at what happens after that and run to the board spreading lies to try to gain an audience in your defense, handle it like a man! I have too much to do and too little time to waste on someone who I don't care to meet and could give 2 shits about. Not to mention, I consider myself to be a very nice looking woman, so I have no problems getting a date ANYWHERE! One thing about it, Ive been a member of this board since 2010 have a healthy clientele list and am far from desperate. Client privacy as well as my personal privacy is more important to me than anything. Discretion is my middle name... I have plenty of clients I have known for years that know this is a fact. My next concern is presentation. I invest a lot into making sure my presentation is always at 100% , that is extremely important to me. However, I have ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DISRESPECT. If you disrespect me, I will ALWAYS SHOOT BACK. If I feel like a client is playing on my phone, email, or inbox on the board I think its a waste of time, and address it as such. Some may say I have a CONDESCENDING ATTITUDE, I just call it zero tolerance for bullshit! So compare notes, and you will discover if you have 2 bullshitters and an asshole, they will find out they have everything in common! My reputation, presentation, and reviews speak for themselves. When I got into the verbal altercation with this individual, I didn't go run and try to slander his name on the board as he has attempted to do to me. There is too much pimp and police activity going on out here in the hobby to deem a personal vendetta as a threat to the privacy or pleasure of the next potential client. So DONT HATE, DISSIPATE! If you want to see me and we discover on the text or email or pm that we are not compatible to meet, don't go on the board trying to bad mouth a girl that you have NEVER MET, just move on to the next provider! You may be spoiling a good time for the next potential client that will meet and enjoy that provider! Not everyone is compatible, nor will everyone like the same girl, everyone has a preference. Also every provider has their own personal marketing style they are comfortable with. You can not put a price on something that doesn't belong to you. so when I say stay in a client's place and providers stay in a providers place all I am really saying is if you stay in your lane I will always stay in mine. I cant go to the white house and tell the president what to do, nor can the president come to my house and tell me what to do. But If I disrespect someone and they say something back, then I cant get upset because I was out of place! Yeah I pmed him and cursed him out, but only in response to the texts and pms that he sent me! Please believe if you are rude and disrespectful to me don't expect me to sit back and not say anything....I will defend myself! I always give the respect I expect in return. Gimme_that please be honest with your commentary ,you have no reason to have SUSPICIONS ABOUT ANYTHING. WE HAVE NEVER MET! So you haven't had the opportunity to turn me down on any occasion. If you set a pretend date, on numerous occasions, its safe to assume that you are simply just playing and wasting my time. I hate a time waster, and yes I will have something to say. Everything else is neither here nor there. Compare notes do what you please , just know I don't deal with bullshitters and time wasters. The ones claiming they hate drama are the main ones that start the drama..... gimme_that you been playing on my inbox since I joined the board, setting up fake appointments. So lets all get together and compare notes... 5 years playing on my phone and inbox! you are the main ones talking about privacy yet you want to implicate me in a forum... I have no problem with putting it out on the table because I HAVE NO REASON TO FABRICATE A STORY and have the proof to back that up. Im not sure what the ultimate goal was when jwin started this No means no thread, but I feel the same way, I have a no bullshit no games policy and that means no too. So don't get mad if you get called out and try to make me look bad, just look in the mirror and say that to yourself 5 times really fast--"No means no!"

[CocoBrown]

"Believe only half of what you see, and nothing that you hear" - Edgar Allen Poe (also, Benjamin Franklin)
And on this board, always be careful of what you hear about a provider... Rumours either come from a man that can't have her or a woman who cant compete with her... most of what you hear is an opinion, and is simply a perspective not truth.

[gimme_that]

I don't know how I got involved in your post Coffee. And definitely haven't received a pm from the original poster or anyone in regards to this. It doesn't really matter.

I have no beef or qualms with you or anyone. I have never booked and confirmed a day with you at all. What I did do was notice your availiability to me in nearby cities was most time short notice and never on the weekends which I preferred. So I commented to you that its harder for me to book than most. As far as I know we were amicable and I was still eligible to book. Only questions I was worried about were if you were GFE.....as you had certain disclaimers attached as to what you might offer versus what would happen service wise. I made sure that if I contacted you again Id be sure I was fully ready to book.

Then when I was ready to book (when you were out of town recently) somewhat semi recently maybe about two months ago. Your original overnight rate increased from the original amount we set although it was the same on your site. I also asked if you required a deposit.........which even if ladies don't require one I always supply to ensure I have a booked solidified date. I don't appreciate you slandering me and telling me I booked a date and then cancelled. I don't cancelled overnights. And if I did especially touring ladies Id always offer money to accommodate a cancellation if necessary.

So please don't try to slander me saying I booked you and then cancelled. I always give ladies a confirmation days at least 24 hours before a date to confirm I will be in fact off that day and night. I don't do that and I value peoples time same as mine.

So here's what I can do.

I'm actually seeking an overnight now for the next few weekends. Let's let bygones be bygones and just take our frustrations out on each other body to body for 12 hours. When I book I will book on board and via p411 appointment form.

And If I cancel I would have no issue paying a 200-400 dollar cancellation fee. Ill even write that in a pm on p411 to you.

But first you have to admit that I've never booked a date on you and cancelled short notice or done you anything remotely disrespectful. I didn't deserve to be spoke about in this thread as I have done nothing to you. Worst I did to you was show interest and not find a day on one of your short notice sporadic tours where I can book you. I have never lead any lady astray and not confirmed a meeting. And I didn't do that to you. Last time I tried to book I was even trying to use western union as an option for your travel.

Yes I in fact got the brunt of your pm hate mail. Id never post a thread about stuff like that.....because it was no ones business but mine and yours. Threads are sorta dry snitching. Figured you needed to vent so I read and replied. I apologized about the confusion we had, but I left it at that. So if I book you now..........how do you think this would affect your mood in session. I'm worried you might bite it.........

Truce please. I don't want no part of this posting stuff. It hard enough to book ladies over in this part of the country.

[jwin]

Originally Posted by CocoBrown

when you have a client that attempts to a provider and the provider wont entertain them in their cat and mouse pursuit, the client may get upset and try to bad mouth the provider. ive been on the board for years and never have issues with drama, or gossip. Unfortunately after this incident I guess Im not able to say that any more... a client that has been pming me since 2013 "trying to set up an appointment" got angry because of the rate that I quoted him. Instead of saying he wasn't interested, and moving on in a polite professional manner, he chose to say some choice comments to me that I felt were disrespectful and out of place. One thing for sure I do not care to hear rude advice on how to run my business from someone I don't not know or care to meet. if you call me slut and whore the response you will get will be even worse... He hopped on the board and flipped it around posting threads saying I was bothering him sending him 5 to 6 messages a day, like I was so hard up to see him. That is complete bullshit. If you call me a dumb whore and tell me I cant read don't get mad at what happens after that and run to the board spreading lies to try to gain an audience in your defense, handle it like a man! I have too much to do and too little time to waste on someone who I don't care to meet and could give 2 shits about. Not to mention, I consider myself to be a very nice looking woman, so I have no problems getting a date ANYWHERE! One thing about it, Ive been a member of this board since 2010 have a healthy clientele list and am far from desperate. Client privacy as well as my personal privacy is more important to me than anything. Discretion is my middle name... I have plenty of clients I have known for years that know this is a fact. My next concern is presentation. I invest a lot into making sure my presentation is always at 100% , that is extremely important to me. However, I have ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DISRESPECT. If you disrespect me, I will ALWAYS SHOOT BACK. If I feel like a client is playing on my phone, email, or inbox on the board I think its a waste of time, and address it as such. Some may say I have a CONDESCENDING ATTITUDE, I just call it zero tolerance for bullshit! So compare notes, and you will discover if you have 2 bullshitters and an asshole, they will find out they have everything in common! My reputation, presentation, and reviews speak for themselves. When I got into the verbal altercation with this individual, I didn't go run and try to slander his name on the board as he has attempted to do to me. There is too much pimp and police activity going on out here in the hobby to deem a personal vendetta as a threat to the privacy or pleasure of the next potential client. So DONT HATE, DISSIPATE! If you want to see me and we discover on the text or email or pm that we are not compatible to meet, don't go on the board trying to bad mouth a girl that you have NEVER MET, just move on to the next provider! You may be spoiling a good time for the next potential client that will meet and enjoy that provider! Not everyone is compatible, nor will everyone like the same girl, everyone has a preference. Also every provider has their own personal marketing style they are comfortable with. You can not put a price on something that doesn't belong to you. so when I say stay in a client's place and providers stay in a providers place all I am really saying is if you stay in your lane I will always stay in mine. I cant go to the white house and tell the president what to do, nor can the president come to my house and tell me what to do. But If I disrespect someone and they say something back, then I cant get upset because I was out of place! Yeah I pmed him and cursed him out, but only in response to the texts and pms that he sent me! Please believe if you are rude and disrespectful to me don't expect me to sit back and not say anything....I will defend myself! I always give the respect I expect in return. Gimme_that please be honest with your commentary ,you have no reason to have SUSPICIONS ABOUT ANYTHING. WE HAVE NEVER MET! So you haven't had the opportunity to turn me down on any occasion. If you set a pretend date, on numerous occasions, its safe to assume that you are simply just playing and wasting my time. I hate a time waster, and yes I will have something to say. Everything else is neither here nor there. Compare notes do what you please , just know I don't deal with bullshitters and time wasters. The ones claiming they hate drama are the main ones that start the drama..... gimme_that you been playing on my inbox since I joined the board, setting up fake appointments. So lets all get together and compare notes... 5 years playing on my phone and inbox! you are the main ones talking about privacy yet you want to implicate me in a forum... I have no problem with putting it out on the table because I HAVE NO REASON TO FABRICATE A STORY and have the proof to back that up. Im not sure what the ultimate goal was when jwin started this No means no thread, but I feel the same way, I have a no bullshit no games policy and that means no too. So don't get mad if you get called out and try to make me look bad, just look in the mirror and say that to yourself 5 times really fast--"No means no!"

The old saying once again holds true, a hit dog will holler.. Normally I would reply with anecdotal evidence to the fact that you are lying but I've learned to follow the advice given by the great Mark Twain — 'Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.'

[CocoBrown]

if you didn't spend so much time playing in my inbox, there would be no problems. SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY.... mad because you messaged me numerous times over the span of 2 years pretending to want an appointment, and I finally got upset and read you your rights. I guess you are right about one thing: I was the fool for not blocking you from the beginning! Believe if I for one minute knew it was 100% bullshit, I would have never replied to your messages and I would have blocked you. I never have met you! So please stop trying to prove that this is about you "not wanting to see " me because I REALLY DONT CARE!!! Im a very pretty black woman and never have to chase clients, I have plenty! If I were fat and ugly, you might sound convincing.... but based on my track record and reputation, any man with a brain can see you are clearly mad that you didn't get any COCO so you're mad and have something to prove! You think you are above the working girl which is why you told me you pay more in monthly taxes than what I make..you think you can get whatever you want and didn't this time, so you are just plain upset. When you got mad I wouldn't see you for a lower rate, you attempted to tell me how to market my business. I told you where to stick your opinion and you called me cheap whores and other things, and I blew on your ass. You are not famous, don't have an advertisement up, and I was not inquiring about your services.. You not wanting to see me matters no more to me than your mother's birthday. I never gave a fuck or 2 shits. I have plenty of things to do... but when you go to calling me whores and sluts that's when the situation went south. Like I said. with me, disrespect begets disrespect. So just move on already I don't want to see you you don't want to see me Im okay with that. Just stop lying to your fellow hobbyists in the mens room. We had a negative exchange of words when you called me a whore and attempted to tell me what I should charge and how to market my business. So keep trying to convince yourself that you are telling the truth. You said what you said, then got mad when I replied in a not so friendly fashion. If you call me a whore then tell me to stop texting you, your wish will not be granted! YOU ARE THE FOOL to think I wont have anything to say. Im glad you went in the mens room IN your sad attempts to slander my name or make me look bad that way anyone else who see's this will know call me out of my name and yes I will have something to say to defend myself. Now find something else to discuss and kick rocks JWIN....