Up at bat against the Low-ball.

[Goddess_Kc]

I hate when guys wanna play lowball but want to go extra innings and get treated like the mvp. You call it upsell. I call it fair exchange. Well last time i checked even at burger kind where there slogain is have it your way. If you want a hamburger its a flat rate. If you want cheese tomatoes onions pickles bacon and another patty thats going to be extra. You get what you pay for. You want a 60 to 80 dollar girl? Independence avenue has a slew of whores to choose from. Get off the internet with these streetwalker rates please. No offense to any of you specialist out there but its Sunday im bored and it was on my mind so i decided to share.

[skbinks]

To funny.

Most providers I have seen on eccie and IRL only offer some of the extra stuff, like GFE and greek if you pay for a hhr session and then some still need more for either. I'll ask, like I did (I know you aren't talking about me), but wouldn't get upset about it.

[GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead]

I have never understood trying to negotiate on rates. You ask for what you want and if I am willing to pay that I will. I would never ask for a lower rate and offend you because even if you agree, my service will suffer because I offended you.

As far as Greek and GFE goes, I will always refer to the ad and/or reviews to see what type of service I should expect. I would never expect Greek to be included and have only seen two ads that did include everything, but the price was set accordingly. As far as GFE goes, if it is not in the ad, I don't expect it. If it is extra you should state that because I am only showing up with what was agreed upon for your time.

[thebuffmantraples]

BK is a bad analogy! I bought a #2 today tx something something, it comes with everything unless you omitted what you don't like(pickles they're nasty).

Either you are GFE or not! If you become gfe from a price upsell that's a whole lot of 44oz jars of pickled worms you are opening up!
I think you are just talking some dumb ass lowballer and that's understandable! Some guys just can't seem to except the fact that they just can't afford it, been there too!
Oh, the many ways to avoid that from the running a business that don't offer low rate perspective. Cures that fast. I think some ladies have a low ballers DNS list too! But wtf do I know!
I still like big booty you know!

[skbinks]

Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

Either you are GFE or not! If you become gfe from a price upsell that's a whole lot of 44oz jars of pickled worms you are opening up!

I know when I was thinking it that I was thinking of Lariyah. But she lists all of it on her website. For 60 min it is either $200 or $240 with GFE/MSOG

[bigryan2222]

If you provide a service you are going to have people try to negotiate down. Complaining about it in sight of your potential client base isnt going to help you. There are girls that will negotiate, there are girls who do not negotiate. You need to find the best balance for yourself. You can always break off communication if you dont like where it is going.

Also, it is fucking stupid for girls use the "go to Independence Ave" comment, because it shows that you look down on them. In my opinion that stupid statement opens you up to all the judgemental dicks out there.

[JRLawrence]

Originally Posted by skbinks

I know when I was thinking it that I was thinking of Lariyah. But she lists all of it on her website. For 60 min it is either $200 or $240 with GFE/MSOG

I have no problems with Lariyah because she has always been honest with me and from the reviews: everyone else. Yes, I think the extra $40, and a tip, is worth it to get the special treatment of a real girlfriend and she makes the effort to put more of herself into the encounter.

For me the whole question is honesty. Some women have it, and some women don't. If you promise one thing, and then want more money once the session has started; it is upsell, and nothing else. Unless, of course a guy asks for something special, such as more time or etc.

With upsell, it is time to get dressed and walk out - never to return. You can be nice about it, but in your heart you know when the situation has gone badly. So let you big head do the thinking, and get out while you can - as fast as you can. Leave the money, it doesn't matter because you already know you have been cheated as a man. Write a review about the problem, she has it coming and all of us need to know so that we can avoid shopping at that store.

Don't get angry about it: get even. Turn the anger into fun.

If you were given a bogus address (That's what Goddess KC called it!), with no instructions to make a second call: you were lied to, it is time to drive away and never call her again. The guys might even make a file of those who you will not see - ever. (Burr, doesn't it make you shiver to know you might be manipulated?)

Have any of you guys noticed that some women have few to none regulars. While other women have a lot of guys who are repeat visitors.

Have you ever wondered just why that is? Think about it.
JR

[skbinks]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

I have no problems with Lariyah because she has always been honest with me and from the reviews: everyone else. Yes, I think the extra $40, and a tip, is worth it to get the special treatment of a real girlfriend and she makes the effort to put more of herself into the encounter.

I totally agree. I pay the for the GFE/MSOG just because I think she deserves it and mainly because I wouldn't get booted out the door if I popped after just 5 minutes with her. Of course being covered I don't have to worry about that. There are other benefits paying for GFE with her though. BTW, as far as I know, she wouldn't do that anyway. She'd just do conversation which is great with her. Love it.

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

For me the whole question is honesty. Some women have it, and some women don't. If you promise one thing, and then want more money once the session has started; it is upsell, and nothing else. Unless, of course a guy asks for something special, such as more time or etc.

With upsell, it is time to get dressed and walk out - never to return. You can be nice about it, but in your heart you know when the situation has gone badly. So let you big head do the thinking, and get out while you can - as fast as you can. Leave the money, it doesn't matter because you already know you have been cheated as a man. Write a review about the problem, she has it coming and all of us need to know so that we can avoid shopping at that store.

Pretty much agree with you again. I have seen several people talk on here about similar. For me, I was never promised greek at 30 minutes then find out it is only with the 60 minutes. I haven't been on here long, as you know, but from everything I have seen, that is usually only with 60 minutes or it is an additional fee so when I was told it was only with the 60 minutes, I didn't have an issue with that. No, I am not saying that there is no greek with someone at 15 or 30 minutes with anybody either. I just don't remember seeing it at a normal 15 or 30 price.

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

If you were given a bogus address (That's what Goddess KC called it!), with no instructions to make a second call: you were lied to, it is time to drive away and never call her again. The guys might even make a file of those who you will not see - ever. (Burr, doesn't it make you shiver to know you might be manipulated?)

I'm am NOT arguing about this because I can see where you are coming from. Each person looks at it a little different. For a first time meeting they normally ask you to go to an area or place (that is not theirs) then call or text them again from there. For me, whether they give me an address of a gas station or just the name of the gas station (house, church, etc.), it is all the same to me. I know it is not my final destination unless they actually say it is. The address actually is easier to put into the gps (at least mine for me). If she didn't say there would be a second call but also didn't say it was the final destination, I would assume it and I have only been on here a couple months now. But she also could have made a mistake or the client might not have heard it or heard it correctly. Not sure since I am not him or her.

Constructive criticism for her, especially because she is new, might have been better. Just letting her know that giving a place (address, building, etc.) and actually telling them it is not the final place might have helped her more then for someone to yell at her for it. I don't know who originally jumped on her and don't care. A lot of you guys on here have been here for a long time and could help new people (like you have me after you all realized I wasn't someone else with a new handle) by teaching instead of getting mad. Now, if she had been doing this for 10 years, well she should have already been taught.

BTW, no, I am not WKing her. These would be my thoughts even with someone I have never met. I just might not speak out about it though since I didn't know the person.

[JRLawrence]

I'm am NOT arguing about this because I can see where you are coming from. Each person looks at it a little different. For a first time meeting they normally ask you to go to an area or place (that is not theirs) then call or text them again from there. For me, whether they give me an address of a gas station or just the name of the gas station (house, church, etc.), it is all the same to me. I know it is not my final destination unless they actually say it is. The address actually is easier to put into the gps (at least mine for me). If she didn't say there would be a second call but also didn't say it was the final destination, I would assume it and I have only been on here a couple months now. But she also could have made a mistake or the client might not have heard it or heard it correctly. Not sure since I am not him or her.

Constructive criticism for her, especially because she is new, might have been better. Just letting her know that giving a place (address, building, etc.) and actually telling them it is not the final place might have helped her more then for someone to yell at her for it. I don't know who originally jumped on her and don't care. A lot of you guys on here have been here for a long time and could help new people (like you have me after you all realized I wasn't someone else with a new handle) by teaching instead of getting mad. Now, if she had been doing this for 10 years, well she should have already been taught..........

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I take the blame for yelling at her, and I agree with you.

I got on her after her posting because she just don't seem to understand that communication is a two way street. She talks to the guy about a small part of the directions. You do not know, and no one else knows that that is not the final destination, even though it probably is not.

Got it! I do. For example, when a lady, after 3 or 4 calls tells me it is a certain hotel and to call her when I get to the parking lot for more information; that is straight communication.

But, then I get a no answer when I get to the hotel. Wait about 5 minutes and call again and she says she will be at the hotel in another 15 minutes. Guess what, we are being played with because we have been strung along.

Time to leave if you recognize you have been lied to. That is exactly what she was complaining about. Some guy left before meeting her. She spooked him, and he was behaved safely. Then, she came on the board and complained about him. Sorry, after reading her postings; I call it her fault and I stand by that. It was her fault. Because of her postings I believe that she is a person to be avoided. The more she writes the more the evidence points to her receiving satisfaction from manipulation.

For both men and women, if anything doesn't feel right, it is time to leave. Don't ever let your little head do the thinking.

JR

[DallasRain]

Most guys should be able to "research the reviews and see what each gal offers"...and if he likes what he reads,then he should go for it and MOST likely will recieve it!

[normalguy21]

Originally Posted by DallasRain

Most guys should be able to "research the reviews and see what each gal offers"...and if he likes what he reads,then he should go for it and MOST likely will recieve it!

I,am ready to Re - research you in person dallas !

[CaptainKaos]

Originally Posted by Goddess_Kc

You want a 60 to 80 dollar girl? Independence avenue has a slew of whores to choose from. Get off the internet with these streetwalker rates please. No offense to any of you specialist out there but its Sunday im bored and it was on my mind so i decided to share.

Truth be told, a lot more gals with a streetwalker mentality have been showing up on the Internet. I personally thunk that low balling is pretty dumb, but when anyone with a smart phone can post pictures and name their rates on here, we're all going to have to deal with a little bit of the streets in here.

[Wizard of Ahhhhs]

Does Burger King charge differently for dine-in vs. take-out?

[swarmyone]

Originally Posted by bigryan2222

If you provide a service you are going to have people try to negotiate down. Complaining about it in sight of your potential client base isnt going to help you. There are girls that will negotiate, there are girls who do not negotiate. You need to find the best balance for yourself. You can always break off communication if you dont like where it is going.

Also, it is fucking stupid for girls use the "go to Independence Ave" comment, because it shows that you look down on them. In my opinion that stupid statement opens you up to all the judgemental dicks out there.

Well said and exactly what I was thinking. I don't care to haggle over price on anything and certainly wouldn't try with a provider.

However I found her little rant extremely off-putting.

[bigcockpussylicker]

Originally Posted by swarmyone

Well said and exactly what I was thinking. I don't care to haggle over price on anything and certainly wouldn't try with a provider.

However I found her little rant extremely off-putting.

depends
if a provider is unique and offers exactly what you want, then you might not want to offer less then she asks for because is is holding all the cards
if she's just the average provider, then why not haggle? there are too many options/other girls not to. you are holding the cards....why would you pay $100 for a CBJ?


from what you said,"never haggle" you must buy cars at sticker price...LOL< well, that's one way to do things... a way Im certain most people would say is wrong.