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10-14-2014, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: May 23, 2010
Location: Grapevine
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Fake Reviews
There was recently a review on a provider that was disputed not only as inaccurate, as many are, but altogether fake. I obviously do not need to go into who it was, but I will say that I have a great deal of respect for a provider who will do that. Especially in light of the fact that it was a positive review. Normally something that a provider would welcome as good press. But this raises a few questions. How often do you think this happens and does not get reported, either because she does not notice or, worse, chooses to let it go? What is a lady's motivation to call someone out on a fake review? What ways, if any, are there to verify the authenticity of any single review?
I am a big believer in the value of an honest, informative assessment of a providers sessions. It is an invaluable aspect of this board and many of us rely on them heavily in our decision making. It's true, that many are more entertainment than information; full of testosterone induced rhetoric, but even those can be of some value. We all try to make them informative without being clinical, but it would be nice to know that what we are reading is not entirely a work of fiction.
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10-14-2014, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 28, 2013
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Unfortunately, Eccie does not have a checks and balancing system that lets the providers read their own reviews and say yes or no before the review is published, and you really cannot do it on a strip club review. There are some guys who take the review as fictional for legal purposes too far and make them up for whatever their reasoning is and nothing can really be done about it because of that except a few rare cases after the fact.
Some providers let it go because as long as it is a yes recommendation on the review, then she can add it to her count and the review is a big advertising tool as well to bait business in the door, look at most of the Relax2013 reviews when they first started out. Then you have the girls who are new on the board and there is a handful of guys that will swarm over them, asking for discounts or freebies making up a review for her so her phone will blow up with requests because he is a respected reviewer on Eccie along with other things that happen behind the scenes. I think a provider's motivation to call a fake reviewer of hers out is she wishes her reviews to be accurate and truthful.
I think Eccie should implement a system where a provider can see her own review, not to approve it for what is written, but to let the mods know if she did in fact see the reviewer before it is approved for PA, attached to said provider's profile and even published. That would cut out almost all those type of reviews from even being seen by anyone.
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10-14-2014, 03:40 PM
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Sanity Check...
Join Date: Mar 31, 2010
Location: North texas
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Probably happens more often than we think. A lot of girls only get on ECCIE for the ads and Showcases only. They never post, never see their reviews. Some don't even care about their reviews.
Fake reviews serve one purpose: free P.A.
You can ban the guy but he'll just come back with a different handle. It would be nice if the girls could verify their review but it's extra work.
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10-14-2014, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by davidfree986
Unfortunately, Eccie does not have a checks and balancing system that lets the providers read their own reviews and say yes or no before the review is published, and you really cannot do it on a strip club review. There are some guys who take the review as fictional for legal purposes too far and make them up for whatever their reasoning is and nothing can really be done about it because of that except a few rare cases after the fact.
Some providers let it go because as long as it is a yes recommendation on the review, then she can add it to her count and the review is a big advertising tool as well to bait business in the door, look at most of the Relax2013 reviews when they first started out. Then you have the girls who are new on the board and there is a handful of guys that will swarm over them, asking for discounts or freebies making up a review for her so her phone will blow up with requests because he is a respected reviewer on Eccie along with other things that happen behind the scenes. I think a provider's motivation to call a fake reviewer of hers out is she wishes her reviews to be accurate and truthful.
I think Eccie should implement a system where a provider can see her own review, not to approve it for what is written, but to let the mods know if she did in fact see the reviewer before it is approved for PA, attached to said provider's profile and even published. That would cut out almost all those type of reviews from even being seen by anyone.
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So she reads the review and it talks about her previously undisclosed gut or that she "phoned the session in," and goes oh no! I never saw that person.
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10-14-2014, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rew1256
So she reads the review and it talks about her previously undisclosed gut or that she "phoned the session in," and goes oh no! I never saw that person.
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What? IMO, I can see a provider who would say the session never took place if the recommendation was no, but many reviews that are fake are yes, and many of those are off the charts PSE sessions and at a discounted rate to boot.
There is no one that can verify that the session took place other than the two people involved, but one one disputes, it becomes, he said/she said. Then, you look at the history of each person and if there is a pattern, you go with that as your theory. In the case of Daphne Hart and MissileManXXX, it is he said/she said, but to this point, he is not talking, and that either says a lot or he does not live on the site like a many folks do.
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10-14-2014, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Sep 3, 2014
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What about a provider do fake reviews on her self??
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10-14-2014, 07:51 PM
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Location: Dallas
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What about a provider do fake reviews on her self??
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That's why you take all the reviews with salt. I always read the NO reviews first. (If there are any).
Then I start with the most recent ones.
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10-14-2014, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 12, 2014
Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by theshadow00
What about a provider do fake reviews on her self??
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What if she gets a guy does a review with plenty of pictures in the ROS. She gives him a free session and the flattering review makes the phone ring.
BTW, I am a pretty good amateur photographer and write effectively.
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10-14-2014, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by theshadow00
What about a provider do fake reviews on her self??
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That happens more than you think, just look at the new male handles who write a review and that is the last you hear from them. Usually when a provider has a no recommendation review, she will dispute that so it does not get attached to her profile. But, alas, as I said, reviews are known to be true or not by the two individuals alone, when one disputes the validity, usually the provider or her WKs, even if they are yes reviews, it is he said/she said.
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Originally Posted by OldLRRP
What if she gets a guy does a review with plenty of pictures in the ROS. She gives him a free session and the flattering review makes the phone ring.
BTW, I am a pretty good amateur photographer and write effectively.
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I think there is one or two guys that fit that description and to add to it, the providers contact the hobbyist(s) for a session and the guy puts it in his review and they are lined up down the block to do it, then has a session that is not only out of the world good, but ALL other guys who contact her for a session, do not get even remotely close to that experience and to top if off, has to pay more of a donation than what is REPORTED by those hobbyists.
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10-14-2014, 10:39 PM
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I have reported yes reviews that were fake... nothing was done about them. I have reported reviews with evidence of cancellations as proof as well, I guess as long as they don't use me as a reference t they won't get caught....
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10-14-2014, 10:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 21, 2010
Location: Fort Worth/Las Vegas
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BTW, I am a pretty good amateur photographer and write effectively.
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Well, if that's all it takes, part of my job description is being a photographer/journalist.
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10-15-2014, 05:25 AM
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Sanity Check...
Join Date: Mar 31, 2010
Location: North texas
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Originally Posted by OldLRRP
What if she gets a guy does a review with plenty of pictures in the ROS. She gives him a free session and the flattering review makes the phone ring.
BTW, I am a pretty good amateur photographer and write effectively.
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I volunteer to be your proofreader, lol...
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10-15-2014, 08:39 AM
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I volunteer to be your proofreader, lol...
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Actually, I like your reviews but you tell it like it is and don't write like a 50's dollar porn novel. Not nearly enough "throbbing members", "I pounded her sweet tight pu$$y for 30 minutes" or "finish it in her lovely mouth". Worse, If she fucked like my second wife, you would say so ....not the best advertisement.
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10-15-2014, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Jun 4, 2012
Location: Freedonia
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Originally Posted by davidfree986
What? IMO, I can see a provider who would say the session never took place if the recommendation was no, but many reviews that are fake are yes, and many of those are off the charts PSE sessions and at a discounted rate to boot.
There is no one that can verify that the session took place other than the two people involved, but one one disputes, it becomes, he said/she said. Then, you look at the history of each person and if there is a pattern, you go with that as your theory. In the case of Daphne Hart and MissileManXXX, it is he said/she said, but to this point, he is not talking, and that either says a lot or he does not live on the site like a many folks do.
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Are you speaking from personal experience...
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10-15-2014, 09:35 AM
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No Shame In My Game!
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Join Date: Dec 26, 2012
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My ECCIE Reviews
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Personally, I have had only one review which I had found to be fake.. it was reported as well. It was a yes review and after not getting a response back from reviewer, I had let it be known. This was a few years back.
Sense then, I had learned that no matter how many reviews a client may have on their profile, to always double check.
Also,just because the guy had a great time and had wonderful things to say, the providers opinion may be different as well. It is always wise to do your screening.
I have only had a handful of times, after checking with the reviewed ladies, that an apt was not a good idea.
It is also good to double check p411 ok's as well. It is always in the back of my mind sometimes, that with as many clients a lady may have, she may not even check if she has actually seen the guy and just check the OK, when sent a request. Or she just didn't remember him.
Has happened once a while back
In doing additional screening on p411, I also had a lady state that she gave ok because the gift was exchanged.. although went way over his time, talked the whole time about other providers, and bragged a lot as if would give a bad recommendation if she didn't run her session and time his way. Which was listening to him ramble on about how horrible providers are,,, LOL
So moral to this story!! Ladies Always screen, screen , screen.
If time was not so precious to us.. Why do we P4P by the hour,
If time away from your everyday Family,Friends, and Freedom is not that important to you.. and you like to play Russian Roulette with your life.. then you may as well just make it a free for all and take all concept of time out of the equation.
I think crazy people with bad agenda's are more scary than Ebola.
Same thing.. but scarier because most of the time, there are no symptoms.
Just a walking virus.
Hope everyone stays safe out there.. and good day to all
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