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09-28-2010, 05:09 PM
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I'm not anywhere close to being in the medical/dental line of work, but this seems a bit suspicious to me. I've never heard anything like this my entire life. All I've ever heard is that it is sugar or whatever else that attacks the tooth enamel thus causing cavities (or more correctly dental caries). A good ole fashioned tooth brushing followed with flossing should be enough to fight off whatever it is that causes cavities. To take kissing off a menu would be paranoia to the nth degree.
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09-28-2010, 05:11 PM
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Actually, the sugar and saliva in your mouth turn into bacteria that attacks your teeth. Having said that, if you brush and rinse after each visit, you are gonna be fine.
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09-28-2010, 06:22 PM
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Yeah, I found this a bit much. So if you quit kissing while providing that means you should quit kissing all together!
Honestly, this is ridiculous.
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09-28-2010, 06:28 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOO if thats the cause my teeth should be falling out! lol my teeth are very well in order and not any issues from such.. i have very straight n pretty white teeth.
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09-28-2010, 07:08 PM
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Yes, but...
Tooth decay is indeed contagious, but since you can get it even from casual (i.e. familial-type) kissing it's pretty rare that anyone makes it into his teens without contracting it. Most people get it from their parents in childhood.
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09-28-2010, 07:14 PM
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Actually, the sugar and saliva in your mouth turn into bacteria that attacks your teeth. Having said that, if you brush and rinse after each visit, you are gonna be fine.
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Actually, that makes perfect sense. After all, kissing-of the deep french kind-has to be a part of a session for me to get full enjoyment.
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09-28-2010, 08:00 PM
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Over the past four years I have contracted a nasty case of strep and a pretty serious case of pneumonia by kissing providers. But this is just one of the hazards of kissing any previously unknown woman.
However, tooth decay has not been an issue. Once I removed all sugar, all grains, all starchy roots, all milk products and all legumes from my diet ... the food upon which such bacteria depend was removed and tooth decay ended. (So did a lot of other problems.)
If you do some digging, you will find that our pre-agricultural ancestors had minuscule problems with tooth decay compared to the offspring of grain-based agriculture.
The issue is not the bacteria, but providing that bacteria with an hospitable environment.
There are many species of bacteria in the mouth and gut that have never been successfully cultured outside of the human body; but S. mutans can be cultured. I cultured specimens of S. mutans from 5 volunteers including myself; and varied the growing medium ingredients and measured the difference in the output of acid.
Sure enough, my experience made sense.
One thing few people realize is that enamel will regenerate from SMALL attacks. It won't regenerate from the constant and unremitting attack of S. mutans when fed a diet of starches and sugars; and then augmented by such nifty things as phosphoric acid in soda though.
So a diet composed of lean meats, vegetables, nuts and fruits simply doesn't concentrate enough sugars/carbs and acids in the mouth to make S. mutans a problem.
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09-28-2010, 08:37 PM
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Thanks for sharing though Brit, thats crazy stuff. Honestly, nothing surprises me anymore. All my flossing and all that at the end of the day and going crazy on the listerine after a guy leaves should be enough, no?
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09-28-2010, 08:46 PM
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I think I may start offering a new date package: dinner, dessert, and dental cleaning (you have to tip the dental hygienist extra, though).
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09-28-2010, 09:26 PM
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I've never heard anything like this my entire life. All I've ever heard is that it is sugar or whatever else that attacks the tooth enamel thus causing cavities (or more correctly dental caries). .
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Actually, there are MANY diseases caused by bacteria that were originally thought to be caused by food or lifestyle. GO look up H. pylori.
How many years went by before we finally STOPPED saying that stomach ulcers were caused by "spicy food and stress"?
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Actually, the sugar and saliva in your mouth turn into bacteria that attacks your teeth. Having said that, if you brush and rinse after each visit, you are gonna be fine.
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Nope, Nope, NOPE!!!!
BACTERIA are LIFE FORMS. YOU CANNOT MAKE THEM FROM SUGAR!
http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio114/spontgen.htm
The theory of SPONTANEOUS GENERATION was disproved 150 years ago.
Life begets life!
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09-28-2010, 09:39 PM
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Right, Brittany. The bacteria actually feed off of the sugars and other food particles. And some people's saliva is naturally a more friendly environment to the bacteria that cause plaque and tartar, and eventually, cavities.
Laurentius, are you by chance on a paleo diet? I've been looking into it, but damn, I love my whole grains.
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09-28-2010, 09:58 PM
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The bacteria actually feed off of the sugars and other food particles. And some people's saliva is naturally a more friendly environment to the bacteria that cause plaque and tartar, and eventually, cavities.
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I buy the fact that bacteria need a food source. I also understand that our mouths have normal chemical ranges, like the pH. Foods and genetics can affect this. I realize that ALL people have normal bacterial flora. No matter how much I brush and shower, I will still have a healthy population of normal bacteria all over my body.
Think about it this way:
An escort/client brushes her/his teeth prior the session. Brushing and flossing cause microlacerations on the gums. The other party has pathogenic bacteria in his/her mouth. They've just now infected themselves.
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09-28-2010, 10:25 PM
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Dental cavities CANNOT be transmitted!
I am in the dental community and have studied this stuff. Every person has an oral flora but it is particular to that individual. Just because you kiss someone does not mean you will get cavities. Once their bacteria has entered your oral cavity it most likely will not have the correct ingredents to survive or you already have that type of bacteria. This is how one partner can have gum disease and their spouse does not. Your genetic makeup and diet play a large role in gum disease and proneness to cavities. Hope this helps ease peoples minds.
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09-29-2010, 01:14 AM
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It is true that S. Mutans is the bacteria that causes cavities. No S. Mutans, no cavities. However, nearly all us us have this bacteria transfered to us initially by our mothers kisses. For the bacteria to cause cavities is must have the right invironment. Like plaque build up, foods like sugar feed the bacteria and when the bacteria eat the sugar they excrete acids that attack the teeth. Keeping the teeth clean with brushing, and FLOSSING, avoiding late night snacks, chewing gum containing xylotal reduce the ability of S Mutans to reproduce thus gradually reducing the number of bacteria and therefore cavities, certain mouth rinses all help prevent cavities. Genetics is very important. Some people just don't get cavites even in the with no oral hygiene while others do everything right and still get cavities. You don't have to worry to much about kissing as adults. The bacteria is usually introduced to the oral cavity when we are very young. In fact saliva in itself kills some of the bacteria. People with dry mouth syndrome from chronic sinusitus and use of antihistamines get more cavities. Kissing, especially DFK stimulates salivary flow and will help reduce cavities. And if your going to be doing some DFK you probably want to taste good so likely you will brush, floss and rinse first. Plus I do know for fact that DATY makes me salivate like crazy. Therefore I highly recomend lots of DFK and oral sex as great methods to prevent cavities. It is even possible that alchohol may kill some of the oral bacteria.
So have a few drinks, kiss passionately and enjoy oral sex. Think of all the money you will save by reducing the number of cavities. (ps. I am in the business and everything I said is the gospel truth)
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