New to the Hobby - terrible experience so far =/

[TravelingGentleman]

Hello.

I'm new to the forum, and new to the hobby. While I've researched, read, and been lurking for a while (here and elsewhere), that's the extent of it.

I wrote a lengthy thread over in Diamonds and Tuxedos titled "Where are the Classy Girls?, so I won't elaborate at length about what I think on men and women.

I've made three calls thus far, unsuccessfully. All three calls were for a dinner date - a requirement for an initial meeting that I don't plan on changing.

Call #1: She didn't show up at the restaurant, and when I called to confirm, the person at the other end said I had the wrong number. It was from a BP ad, and given that I was soliciting dinner conversation instead of sex, it made me wonder if it was a sting looking for johns.

Call #2: She didn't show up at the restaurant - I texted her to tell her what I was wearing and looked like 15 minutes prior to the arranged meeting, and she texted me back that her car was broken down outside of Houston and that she had to call her mother to pick her up. I asked if she needed help, or a ride, and she said that her mom had her covered. I told her that she was welcome to bring her mother to dinner with her as a chaperone, since I was intending a "G" rated conversation and was reimbursing her for her time and dinner conversation - nothing I'd be concerned with her mother seeing - she texted me back that it was weird, and went silent when I inquired about a reschedule.

Call #3: She *did* show up, but wearing something indecent. I politely thanked her for showing up, gave her $20 to cover gas, and explained that I didn't think what she was wearing was suitable for a dinner date, especially opposite a suit and tie, and told her that I didn't wish to pursue our date any further. We weren't at Morton's, but what she was wearing was still inappropriately undressed.

I'd welcome advice from anyone on how I should proceed. Should I make a post here explicitly explaining the type of woman I'm after? The few that that have caught my eye (I care first and foremost about a winning smile) are explicitly newbie unfriendly.

I don't want to "work my way up" the lists. I have zero interest in making the acquaintance of many women. I don't expect to ever have provider references - a woman can be the judge of me through appearance, conversation, attitude and behavior. I'm married - happily so for the most part. There are some things in life that she has no interest in, so I'm looking for a beautiful creature to explore some of those interests with.

If pressed for details, the single most important thing I'm looking for is someone who can sit across a restaurant table with me, look dazzlingly beautiful, and if she doesn't know that Petite Sirah originated in the U.S. from Durif grapes being crossed with Syrah pollen, she has the confidence to say that the most important part of being a wine enthusiast is drinking the wines that taste good.

Advice is most welcome.

[pink taco]

[Guest040816]

I find the best wine at a garage sale,,,, the taste and color wasn't up to my expectations. Expert on wine whine.

[Fancyinheels]

Oh, my, I am so sorry, hon, that your experiences so far have been distasteful. How are you making your choices for dinner partners? It may, indeed, be best to explain your criteria in a post within the ISO forum.

I would be happy to show you how an educated, responsible, "classy lady" acts in public (and how she dresses appropriate to the environment), but alas, while quite presentable and a confident conversationalist, I am not "dazzlingly beautiful," so would probably fall below your standards.

I also drink Irish whiskey at dinner. The grape never intrigued me, although I like a nice dessert wine occasionally, like Ceretto Moscato d'Asti Vignaioli Di Santo Stefano.

I understand what you are saying, and I sincerely wish you much luck in lust, but I don't think you understand how the world you've entered works. You stated, "I don't expect to ever have provider references - a woman can be the judge of me through appearance, conversation, attitude and behavior." I like that, but giving up a little initial info for research would still make a reputable provider more comfortable meeting YOU for dinner, and the fact is that this Hobby is largely based on the referral system. It will be difficult, but not impossible, to achieve your goal, but you will have to strain out a lot of what you find undesirable. Perhaps you ought to look on a site like "Arrangement Finders?"

[GlobeSpotter]

The "look dazzlingly beautiful" part might be hard to find here.

[SweetDulce]

A dinner date from a BP girl is not going to happen. I'm on Bp but only do dinners with P411 guys

[Guest030816]

Sir,
I again refer you to the Newbie Friendly List. I understand what it's like to be new here, but there is just so much the ladies are willing to do to verify you.
I also understand your desire to find a great "quality" provider. But you have to understand, these ladies are in high demand. You will need to bend to their screening requirements if you wish to see them. References are a must around here.
If you wish to see them for dinner and hope that will appease their security concerns, then expect to pay full price for their time, $250-400 per hr. IJS
Since you insist on your screening method just get ready for a lot of disappointments. Meeting for dinner is no guarantee either, even Uncle LEO has to eat.
Also be prepared for the fact that this hobby may not fit your lifestyle.
You can always check out some sugar baby website...
Or just take up golf. Traveling like you do, you could visit some fantastic courses across our great country. It's good exercise too.

[mr666]

Dude you are really overdoing this.

[Russ38]

OP.....no offense but it doesn't seem like this is the right hobby for you....this shit isn't eHarmony, it's a cash for gash operation where you should be more concerned with feeding them hard dick, not dinner.....

[TravelingGentleman]

Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

If you wish to see them for dinner and hope that will appease their security concerns, then expect to pay full price for their time, $250-400 per hr.

Interestingly, I've been explicitly clear that I'd pay their hourly rate for dinner. I'm selective with looks, so screening (where photos aren't clear) is a little more selective.

Granted, I'm new to the idea of the hobby...but I'm boggled that someone wouldn't go out of their way to not only have a free dinner and drinks with a gentleman,but be paid for their time doing it.

[TravelingGentleman]

Originally Posted by Russ38

OP.....no offense but it doesn't seem like this is the right hobby for you....this shit isn't eHarmony, it's a cash for gash operation where you should be more concerned with feeding them hard dick, not dinner.....

*laughing* I honestly laughed at your response. It COULD BE. This could entirely be the wrong hobby for me. I'm new, have no idea what I'm talking about....you could be right. Time will tell.

[Fancyinheels]

It is boggling. There is a psychology, and time and experience will give you insight to it. Much also depends on the lever pf escort you are seeking. What's your price range? Age and body type restrictions?

There are a few lovely ladies on BP who are also (like myself) on ECCIE and P411, but for the most part, I have to agree with Dulce in that you are unlikely to find a suitable dinner date there.

[Guest032117]

I love food and I love getting paid to eat. Do more research before you continue. It never hurts to ask if you aren't sure if a lady is newbie friendly. I am friendly but cautious.

[Mr. Romantic]

Originally Posted by mr666

Dude you are really overdoing this.

+1

You need to be on Ashley Madison, not here

[TravelingGentleman]

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

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I also drink Irish whiskey at dinner. The grape never intrigued me, although I like a nice dessert wine occasionally, like Ceretto Moscato d'Asti Vignaioli Di Santo Stefano.

Fancy - can I make a recommendation? Think of Moscato as three steps down from Champagne, not quite bubbling wine (which is for all carbonated and fermented grape beverages not from Champagne, France), but not quite Ice Wine.

Ice Wine is especially sweet (uncarbonated) wine that is fermented from grapes that have been frozen - crystallizing the sugar inside the grapes and producing an extremely sweet wine. If you stop into Target or Specs, you can find an ice wine - probably in the $30 range at the low end, although even the lowest grade of ice wine is an extravagant flavor boutique.

I've read your profile and gather that you're a RenFen connoisseur. When you go this fall, stop by the German food boothes and ask for Mead. Dessert Mead - Viking Blod, not to be confused with Honey wine. Honey wine is fermented grape beverage that has been flavored with honey, while actual mead - the real deal - is fermented honey. It smells and tastes like honey. It doesn't pour quite as thick, but if it did, it would be hard to drink. It's what vikings and Arabs drank long before homo sapien discovered that yeast and hops could ferment wheat to create beer - and sadly a mostly forgotten art and beverage. But...one of the tastiest things you'll ever sample.