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Old 10-07-2017, 08:06 PM   #91
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Ok, that is what I was wondering.

So the cease and desist will precede the protective order and the cease and desist along with evidence of his stalking/harassing behavior will secure the protective order with the police/judge.

So basically this is how you get the police to take you seriously.

Because even as Amiliah has stated, that even though a woman may be in the adult industry, once a protective order is issued the police must follow through with any necessary action against the stalker despite her chosen occupation.

I decided to put that part in red for the ladies reading this thread.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:07 PM   #92
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But how many years of experience do you have dealing with whores who have been stalked harrassed & etc?
I haven't dealt with any cases involving whores. However, I've dealt with cases involving harassment, stalking, and extortion of providers for my entire career.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:14 PM   #93
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I haven't dealt with any cases involving whores. However, I've dealt with cases involving harassment, stalking, and extortion of providers for my entire career.
Well said, sir.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:19 PM   #94
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Are you trying to earn 3 clients, or are you offering your services, i.e., that call that works 99.99% of the time, pro bono?
A member wrote me and asked me to comment. I commented. I've had no contact with the providers in question. I often do work here for free. But I would never make a blanket offer to represent someone without even talking to them.

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I think the gals should carry bear spray as non-lethal self defense in case this bloke accosts them out of the blue. Would you disagree with that advice?
I think every woman should have a can of legal anti-masher spray in her purse. And a can of Cheese Whiz. And some Ritz crackers.
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The problem with those advocating "self defense" in this thread, is that when the police arrive, you never know whose story they are going to believe. And a lady in this profession lacks credibility.

One party may go to jail, or both.

It is expensive to hire an attorney for an assault charge, and never mind any existing warrants and lost wages for jail time plus bail.

And if the lady herself gets charged with assault it will be even more difficult to take any action against the stalker.

Of course self defense is necessary when physically attacked, but never a good idea to go looking for a fight. Better to have the necessary history that documents what the stalker has done to you, such as the cease and desist letter and protective order, to protect yourself from ending up in jail yourself in the event you do have to physically protect yourself.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:27 PM   #96
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Ok, that is what I was wondering.

So the cease and desist will precede the protective order and the cease and desist along with evidence of his stalking/harassing behavior will secure the protective order with the police/judge.

So basically this is how you get the police to take you seriously.

Because even as Amiliah has stated, that even though a woman may be in the adult industry, once a protective order is issued the police must follow through with any necessary action against the stalker despite her chosen occupation.

I decided to put that part in red for the ladies reading this thread.
In big cities, like Houston and Dallas, the police don't play a part in the protective order application process. The applicant does intake with a social worker in victim services. If the social worker thinks the applicant has evidence meriting the issuance of a protective order, the applicant files a petition in the specialty court for protective orders.

The criminal justice system treats my provider clients the same way it'd treat any other person. I can't speak for other providers' experiences.

Again, is the guy you're talking about on probation?
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In big cities, like Houston and Dallas, the police don't play a part in the protective order process. The applicant does intake with a social worker in victim services. If the social worker thinks the applicant has evidence meriting the issuance of a protective order, the applicant files a petition in the specialty court for protective orders.

Again, is the guy you're talking about on probation?
But what I am saying is that many people in this thread are telling the ladies to just go call the police, but the police won't do anything.

But if the lady is able to secure the protective order, then the police have to help.

No, he is not on probation, he accepted a plea and a guilty charge so that he could walk, scot-free. So he thinks that since he is scot-free now, he is well within his right to send me nasty messages, etc.
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Old 10-07-2017, 08:36 PM   #98
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It's chick, dude.


Chic is a word to describe that fur coat of yours....

Please don't diss huggy bear by associating him with the valet.... lol

And to answer AR question....any stalker who is that "dedicated" will most likely already have that information...
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But isn't true that if you get such order that the person you are getting the order against will then know your RW name?
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^^yes. lol at shyster jon. both parties will be up in each other's biz, so to speak. lotta it is about something called "due process." it's almost like suing someone.

getting jon's 99.99% effective call for a reasonable fee for professional services may be a better option for parties seeking a certain level of "discretion." btw, can I get my referral fee? ha ha

honestly, after this thread, i think the offending party may re-think his MO. He's gotta worry about getting "hammered" by SC, getting "hammered" by Shyster Jon, and whatever mix of the two px can throw in for good measure. lol. it takes a village.
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But isn't true that if you get such order that the person you are getting the order against will then know your RW name?
Of course. The order can't list "The Winky Whisperer" as the protected party.
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Of course. The order can't list "The Winky Whisperer" as the protected party.
That's exactly why I say dont go that route...
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And to answer AR question....any stalker who is that "dedicated" will most likely already have that information...
Yea I am gonna assume that if a lady is already at the point of paying for an attorney and attempting to secure a protective order, things have already gotten pretty bad and most likely very personal.
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Yea I am gonna assume that if a lady is already at the point of paying for an attorney and attempting to secure a protective order, things have already gotten pretty bad and most likely very personal.
That's right. The stalker knows RW information about the provider. Often, the stalker hacks her computer. The challenge is to find out the stalker's RW identity.
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Shyster Jon, I have a couple of questions.

Can you give us the difference between a protective order and a restraining order? A restraining is used only after physical violence has occurred?

Also, I got a persistent bugger that once obtained an assault charge after attacking me. He still persists in sending me messages of a harassing nature even after being charged. What protection does the cease and desist order provide? If I have one sent to him and he continues contact me, is that enough ammunition for me to take to the police?
Is your persistent bugger.... SistineChapel ?

Cause it sure sounds like he is throwin shade at the lawyer and trying to deflate the counselor's point of view....

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Simply making an observation..[to AR below]... read carefully the posts like I do and you will see that he and PMSmcdouche are the ones trying to negate the counselor's argument ......
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