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Old 02-01-2010, 03:22 PM   #61
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LOL WTF, I said "Time machine" not "Love machine".

Would a true Courtesan advertise? And if you really need to ponder/debate over if you truly are one, then clearly you are not
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:38 PM   #62
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RE: historical definitions, maintaining versus creating a privileged live

I too find Camille's post interesting, as a source of historical information. Wouldn't that depend on specific historical period and culture though? For example, many well-known Greek courtesans were former slaves...
The links in Wikipedia article lead to many other interesting terms that depict a wide diversity of similar occupations.
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Would a true Courtesan advertise? And if you really need to ponder/debate over if you truly are one, then clearly you are not
Nope. Word!
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Would a true Courtesan advertise? And if you really need to ponder/debate over if you truly are one, then clearly you are not
We're in the 21st century so yes she would advertise... very moderately of course. Though the majority of her clientele would come to her on a "referral only" basis.
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Though the majority of her clientele
I thought that a courtesan would be involved with only one man at a time. If that isn't the case what makes her so different from an escort?
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I guess it's the way how one perceives oneself.
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I thought that a courtesan would be involved with only one man at a time. If that isn't the case what makes her so different from an escort?
In my studies of the courtesans of old that wasn't the case. It seems common to have had one main patron that cared for their needs while still dabbling with others.

From old texts I think they were more the kind of woman you could take out proudly display on your arm at the gent only parties, while other women were regulated to their houses. They weren't the women you found in brothels or other places, with backgrounds of poverty or servitude/slavery. They were also generally educated in language and sciences beyond what women of their generation had access to. As a legal class they were amongst the few women allowed to own property or run a business, such as a salon. Often they came from wealthy backgrounds and refused to marry, or reached times of trouble and wanted to maintain their luxury lifestyles.

In Ovid's Amours he describes his mistress turned courtesan having a husband who was totally oblivious. So some did it just for adventure.

I don't think it means much in a modern context. I would say attitude is more the key, as it leads to all the other things. Treating it like an art form and career, not just a way to make an easy/quick buck (though one could argue it is neither easy nor quick).

All these lines are superficial in an era where hierarchy means almost nothing. It's come to a place of individual philosophy. Humans have the incredible need to classify and sub classify. People seem to need a name tag to know who and where they are.
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Just count me with the self-serving outsiders, rather than the cool kids who have sympathies to extend.

P.S. Imho, this it turning into a hi-jack... If you want to continue talking, PMs would be better.
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It would be nice if you and Thais would let us in on just what you agree on. So far all I have seen is "On one hand" followed by "On the other hand".

ps...Niv , do as you wish but I got zero out of the pm route in another place and time.
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I guess it's the way how one perceives oneself.
Wouldn't it be how others perceive me?
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Wouldn't it be how others perceive me?
Not necessarily.
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...Often they came from wealthy backgrounds and refused to marry, or reached times of trouble and wanted to maintain their luxury lifestyles.
And this is where I entered this industry. Things got so bad, I had to pay my maid with designer shoes. At one point I thought I would have to sell my house and live in my Lexus.
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Wouldn't it be how others perceive me?
Agreed. What you project is in the eye of the beholder, not the holder. Marketing 101.

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They weren't the women you found in brothels or other places, with backgrounds of poverty or servitude/slavery. They were also generally educated in language and sciences beyond what women of their generation had access to. As a legal class they were amongst the few women allowed to own property or run a business, such as a salon. Often they came from wealthy backgrounds and refused to marry, or reached times of trouble and wanted to maintain their luxury lifestyles.
Thais, Lauren might have something to reference to you for reading since we are on the same lines here. Unfortunately, I don't...it's been a while

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