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oleguy · 01-31-2010, 09:03 PM

I like this thread. Good comments on both sides. If I lived in Dallas, I'm sure once I settled on who I wanted to see I would want something like this type arrangement also. I'm more than happy to see one woman exclusively as variety is just not what I'm looking for. Once trust is established with the right woman I would not have any problem prepaying on a monthly basis if that's what she needed. I know this goes against what a lot of the other guys say. I plan my viists with a lady ususally at least a month ahead of time and these visits are normally overnights. For longer get to togethers I may make plans 2-3 months in advance. Again, I see ladies that are successful, have been in the business for some time and are all extremely attractive. Spinners are my weakness.

Guest100513-2 · 01-31-2010, 09:11 PM

sounds just like priceline for providers.
good luck O2D

ElisabethWhispers · 01-31-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by omaha2dallas

I just want to respond to a couple of things that have been said here by Elizabeth and Honey. (It's funny how the Guys approve, and the Ladies disapprove of the idea in the comments so far)

First of all, as to the "Bullshit" factor, I have a good reputation with the Providers I see, and if you have ever followed my posts or reviews, you could see that I like to keep seeing the same Girls over and over. I actually took some criticism over on ASPD for reviewing the same Providers too many times. Anyway, I really like to see the same Girl on a regular basis, it makes her seem more like a Girlfriend for me that way. ...

For the record, I'm on your side and would love for you to find that special someone to spend time with. And I just knew that me saying the word "bullshit" would cause comment. But the sentence mentioned "many men" not all of them.

There are plenty of men out there who could tell me something and I would believe them completely. I'm just trying to suggest to others reading your thread that many of "us", the ladies, have been asked to give discounts because the potential client was wanting to find someone regular to see and often it's bs. That's all. No harm and no foul.

And I know the potential for giving a lady extra funds and never seeing her again is completely plausible as well.

Just wanted to throw my thoughts out there. Again, wishing you well on your quest. Wish there were more men like you who would like to have someone to visit on a regular basis and not just always flit from petal to petal on many flowers. But even those that bounce around and visit many different ladies have their charm as well.

Warmly,
Elisabeth

bigbobftworth · 02-01-2010, 12:14 AM

first rule I learned in the hobby was to never pay up front, never loan money you can afford to just give up. Not slamming anyone, but I have heard stories from so many hoobyist how the lady promised to meet if the money could be provided first, and then her cell phone fell in the toilet, her child had to go to the emergency room and the list of excuses go on and on. I know that hobbyist call and schedule with a provider and then either the hobbyist cancels or no shows and the provider looses an opportunity to make money.

I think there is no easy answer to the situation of Omaha2Dallas proposes. Just my 2 cents worth.

dentonseek · 02-01-2010, 12:47 AM

If there were a form of "Hobby Escrow" accounts, this would work out very nicely.
I'll look into it.

travelling_man · 02-01-2010, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

the best thing to do would be to pay her for a couple of visits, or a month's worth, upfront. At least initially.

Good luck!
Elisabeth

Hold on there.....do you know the best way never to hear from a girl again no matter how many times you've seen her? Give her money up front for sessions (or give her a "loan"). I'm sorry, but that is a bad, bad, bad idea. I don't even give a girl money up from at the beginning of a session after I'm there. The last time I did that the girl took the money, left the room and never came back. I can imagine what would happen if I gave the girl money up front and then expected her to answer the phone when I called. Actually I know exactly what happens because I've been there - even though I paid up front I kept being pushed back and rescheduled because she had a "paying" client. Once she gets the money in her hands she looks on your sessions as doing a freebie because she's already been paid and you will be absolutely last on her priority list. If I got back all the money from providers that I have pre-paid or "loaned" money to I could have a string of overnights with several of my ATFs.

I like his approach here. You can tell from how it was worked that he has a few ATFs that he would love to accept his offer but it would be rude to ask a particular girl directly to accept a rate lower than what she normally asks. By posting it how he did it allows the girl to volunteer to accept the rate so it does not offend anyone.

Now for the girls that he has seen - if you like this guy and want to see him you had better jump on this offer quick. I can guarantee that with the economy the way it is SOMEONE is going to take him up on the offer. So if you want to guarantee on the income you'd better act fast.

fortwortholdguy · 02-01-2010, 06:03 AM

I agree with Travelling Man. Last Monday I was scouting around for new talent close to home and I contacted a provider on this board with excellent reviews. She asked me to come over and meet her right away. I had something going on later that day with my UTR ATF so I said we can't have a session today; she said come on anyway, my kids are here but we can meet and talk.

When I got there the electricity was turned off in the house and her young daughter had just woke up and was running around with nothing on but a diaper. She told me she needed $245 to get her lights back on. We chatted a while and agreed to meet a little later in the week, and being the Good Samaritan I am, I advanced her $80 towards getting her lights back on.

Started contacting her Wednesday and it was one excuse after another...I'm doing my taxes, I need to work to get rent money, I'm at my grandmothers...etc. Finally told her Friday I'm not gonna chase you around like a dog chasing a rabbit thru a cornfield, just let me know when you have some free time. She reassured me Friday afternoon that this would get settled up this weekend.

Wanna guess if she has made any attempt to contact me this weekend? Oh well I'm not worried, I won't be living under a bridge or moving down to the homeless shelter just because this girl scammed $80 out of me...

TexasStarr · 02-01-2010, 06:52 AM

I really hate seeing a good post go bad. And this one seems to be headed that way..

I've got opinions on most everything here and I'm sure there are some that will not like what I have to say. First off, I'm not one to ever cause drama. I haven't in the 6 yrs I've been around and I don't plan on starting now.

O2D - I think you have a great idea. And if I wasn't over 40 I would have responded to you via pm about making some arrangements.

EW - You are very correct also. So many (men and WOMEN) out there are such loosers. All they want to do is see how much they can get out of someone without giving in return. This kind of person really chaps my ass. I was just talking about this type of person yesterday dealing with the Sugardaddy/sugarbaby type arrangement. The "so called" sugarbabies take as much as they possible can without ever giving in return. And then "so called" Sugardaddies will try to push for as much sex as they can and then never giving that poor lady what you promised her. It's a two way street and ends up screwing everyone in the long run. This is why a trust has to be built and all arrangements need to be out on the table.

traveling_man - I can only speak for myself here. I am one of the MOST trust worthy people around. And if something goes wrong (which RARELY does) with paying back what I owe someone it ERK's the shit out of me. (refer to my response to EW). And when it does (it may be timing is off with Aunt Flo or something), I will contact that gentleman, let him know what is going on and we make other arrangements. There are somethings that we just have no control over.

I have a gentleman that I have seen every month of almost 2 yrs. And there have been MANY times he has fronted me money so I could get my internet bill paid, Or go buy groceries, or pay my rent. And EVERY time he does, I'm always ready when he is. I have NEVER put the man on the back burner and I NEVER will. I hate when I see post like this where the girl puts the guy off.

Ladies, you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you. For the next time you need help, you won't be getting it.

Moral of this story.... TRUST... We need it, You need it, without it you have NOTHING!

ElisabethWhispers · 02-01-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fortwortholdguy

I agree with Travelling Man. Last Monday I was scouting around for new talent close to home and I contacted a provider on this board with excellent reviews. ...

...Started contacting her Wednesday and it was one excuse after another...I'm doing my taxes, I need to work to get rent money, I'm at my grandmothers...etc. Finally told her Friday I'm not gonna chase you around like a dog chasing a rabbit thru a cornfield, just let me know when you have some free time. She reassured me Friday afternoon that this would get settled up this weekend.

Wanna guess if she has made any attempt to contact me this weekend? Oh well I'm not worried, I won't be living under a bridge or moving down to the homeless shelter just because this girl scammed $80 out of me...

Good lord. That's terrible and probably worthy of some sort of alert at least in the men's section of this site. I always hate that things like this happens to anyone, male or female.

Now since thinking about it, perhaps I shouldn't have responded at all. I sincerely thought that I was offering a sage perspective. Oh well. Sigh.

I'll throw in the white towel on this one.

Take care,
Elisabeth

P.S. TexasStarr, great response! Hugs!

DFW5Traveler · 02-01-2010, 08:10 AM

This is the reason I would never front money to anyone, provider, freind or family for that matter. Being burned by people, including family, is a sure fire way to become a cynic. Trust is something you earn over time and I can count on my digits the number of people I trust.

I like O2D's idea and would truly like to find one provider with whom I had an exclusive arrangement. There is something to be said for familiarity. Strange is nice, but I have trust issues.

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Originally Posted by fortwortholdguy

I agree with Travelling Man. Last Monday I was scouting around for new talent close to home and I contacted a provider on this board with excellent reviews. She asked me to come over and meet her right away. I had something going on later that day with my UTR ATF so I said we can't have a session today; she said come on anyway, my kids are here but we can meet and talk.

When I got there the electricity was turned off in the house and her young daughter had just woke up and was running around with nothing on but a diaper. She told me she needed $245 to get her lights back on. We chatted a while and agreed to meet a little later in the week, and being the Good Samaritan I am, I advanced her $80 towards getting her lights back on.

Started contacting her Wednesday and it was one excuse after another...I'm doing my taxes, I need to work to get rent money, I'm at my grandmothers...etc. Finally told her Friday I'm not gonna chase you around like a dog chasing a rabbit thru a cornfield, just let me know when you have some free time. She reassured me Friday afternoon that this would get settled up this weekend.

Wanna guess if she has made any attempt to contact me this weekend? Oh well I'm not worried, I won't be living under a bridge or moving down to the homeless shelter just because this girl scammed $80 out of me...

TAHGorch · 02-01-2010, 08:43 AM

Not a bad idea considering the current economy.

littlebit0808 · 02-01-2010, 09:58 AM

Hello read this post and I would love to have seeking Arrangements with a man
it would make things for me plane and simlpe I would like to see him 4 times a mth
I live in north richland hills and i only do outcalls.
so send me an e-mail nubbin3899@aol.com or a message
Hope to here from you soon

Chevalier · 02-01-2010, 11:52 AM

Most of the denizens of our little outlaw community are sure that they can be trusted -- and often attribute that trust-worthiness to others of their gender. But are very unlikely to extend the same trust to the other side of the aisle.

Personally, I think it is possible to develop trust of particular members of the other side of the transaction. Maybe that's from reading their posts. Maybe that's from lots of reviews by respected clients (of the ladies) or a plethora of P411 OK's or references from respected ladies (of the clients). Maybe it's from past dealings with them. But if you argue that, e.g., there's a objective basis that ladies should trust you, you also should admit the possibility of an objective basis that should suffice for you to trust certain ladies. (And vice-versa.)

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Originally Posted by w900l

I beg to differ with you EW there is NO BULLSHIT FACTOR(low or high) from me, what I say you can take to the bank!!

And how, exactly, can a lady who doesn't know you personally be sure of that?? Would you accept at face value a similar statement by an escort you don't know much about?? If you wouldn't, why should escorts accept your statement at face value??

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This is a general observation, not aimed at any particular person who commented in this thread. I used one particular quote as an apt starting basis for an observation, not because of anything specific about that individual.

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I don't expect people to automatically trust me or consider me beyond question either. I don't always trust myself.

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YOMV. And probablly will.