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atlcomedy · 12-12-2010, 09:41 AM

Any of you Texas boys watch the ESPN documentary about SMU that debuted last night?

Watching it right now. Great stuff.

WTF · 12-12-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Any of you Texas boys watch the ESPN documentary about SMU that debuted last night?

Watching it right now. Great stuff.

I saw the last part...seems as if this Cam Newton situtation is just putting lipstick on that same pig.

Guest052115-1 · 12-12-2010, 11:03 AM

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I saw the last part...seems as if this Cam Newton situtation is just putting lipstick on that same pig.

I am no Auburn or Cam defender, but at this time I think it is two different issues. SMU was caught several times giving money and gifts to players. All that has been proven to date is that Cam's father was shopping him. The NCAA has found no evidence that Auburn paid him - yet. It would be like me sitting on the couch saying I was going to speed when I go to the office. You can't give me a ticket unless I actually do speed.

macdeft · 12-12-2010, 12:36 PM

Nobody gets busted on their first scam. People don't get arrested for DWI the very first time they get behind the wheel legally intoxicated. People start getting careless, losing the fear, think that can't happen to them. I could be wrong but more than likely the alleged acts of pastor Cecil Newton are just the tip of the iceburg.

TexTushHog · 12-12-2010, 07:14 PM

I didn't see the documentary, but I was at SMU when it happened. I hope the rerun the documentary. I hear it's almost all a rehash, but it would be interesting to see.

atlcomedy · 12-12-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TexTushHog

I didn't see the documentary, but I was at SMU when it happened. I hope the rerun the documentary. I hear it's almost all a rehash, but it would be interesting to see.

I think that is probably fair. Nothing new. The producer was an SMU guy and I don't think he was as probing as he could have been and I think their was kinda of a "kids gloves" approach with some of the principals...that is in exchange for their on camera participation no really tough questions or questions about their personal involvement.

All that said still very entertaining. Marcus Dupree & The U were much better in that series.

pipefitter73 · 12-12-2010, 10:15 PM

I seen it last night. I was a teen when it all happened and there wasn't the internet or as much media as today, so enjoyed learning more about the whole situation.

TexTushHog · 12-13-2010, 12:21 AM

The MSM is treating Endicott's confirmation that A&M bought Dickerson the Trans Am as "news". Frankly, that was common knowledge on campus, at least among those that knew the athletes, the time. The fact that SMU kept up the payments on it was widely assumed, if not an acknowledge fact, too, back then. How the hell else was he paying for it? It wasn't like he was going to take his "sugar money" and spend it on a car. So Endicott's "news" wasn't news at all to those who were around back in the day.

Texas Contrarian · 12-13-2010, 11:28 AM

The late Don Meredith must have figured he was born about 25 years too early!

Rudyard K · 12-13-2010, 12:09 PM

I haven't seen the program...but was fairly familiar with the situation when it was occuring.

Personally, I think SMU got screwed. But I don't really feel sorry for them. They took the attitude that..."Since everyone is doing it...We are not going to even try to be discreet".

They were right...everyone was doing it. But, I think they also proved that thumbing your nose at any sense of propriety is an unwise move.

You can be right...but still get it wrong.

discreetgent · 12-13-2010, 12:31 PM

After the NCAA saw how the penalty decimated the SMU program they never used it again. There were a number of schools (Alabama?) that could easily have been hit with it but seems NCAA decided taking that step was too draconian.

Texas Contrarian · 12-13-2010, 12:52 PM

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Personally, I think SMU got screwed. But I don't really feel sorry for them. They took the attitude that..."Since everyone is doing it...We are not going to even try to be discreet".

They were right...everyone was doing it. But, I think they also proved that thumbing your nose at any sense of propriety is an unwise move.

I agree.

The blatant, in-your-face attitude did not serve SMU well.

I thought one of the funniest stories involved former SMU Board of Governors chair Bill Clements (who also served a term as Governor of Texas).

When the untruthfulness of his earlier statements concerning cash payments to players became clear, he said, "Well, there wasn't a Bible in the room!"