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Old 11-28-2010, 09:35 PM   #16
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Prove it.

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No. I can prove that the current parties are sound by pointing to many years of stability and even prosperity when the right people were in office.

You prove that a libertarian agenda at this point in time wouldn't lead to the ruin of what this country has achieved, imperfect as it is. Show me where it's working. Anywhere. My mind is open. The only country I know of that is currently Libertarian is Somalia.

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Old 11-28-2010, 09:37 PM   #17
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Then you are very well acquainted with the terms "naive" and "delusional", very well indeed, sir. Good night.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:37 PM   #18
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I agree that you should vote libertarian if you are otherwise going to vote Republican. But if you're otherwise going to vote Democratic, please, don't throw your vote away.
Huh??? Doesn't this work both ways???
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:42 PM   #19
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Then you are very well acquainted with the terms "naive" and "delusional", very well indeed, sir. Good night.
Ha ha... no response. Run away, run away!

Actually, this is not the right forum for this topic anyway. If you want to continue, and you can show me some strong examples of working libertarian governments, please post in the Sand Box. Cheers.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:47 PM   #20
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Huh??? Doesn't this work both ways???
No. A Republican vote is currently the worst choice, but a libertarian vote is a wasted vote because they won't (and shouldn't) win. The Democratic vote is the best of bad choices at this point in time.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:38 PM   #21
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Old 11-29-2010, 05:24 PM   #22
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Only libertarians (please don't read a capital L in that word) can change this. Otherwise, I vote for anarchy. Right now, a government that is incapable of governing is best. Of course, that gives us more time to copulate aggressively and frequently.
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:04 PM   #23
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Huh??? Doesn't this work both ways???
Not if you're a Democrat and you want Republicans to waste their vote.
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Old 11-29-2010, 09:55 PM   #24
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Highly recommend being independent and voting for the candidate that is more liberal on social issues but conservative on economic issues. If you are naive enough to think any politician in Texas will support prostitution, send me a PM, I got some ocean front property for sale near Amarillo.
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The quote sounds nice, but the problem is that libertarians are like 5-year-olds – incredibly naive and somewhat delusional. Given any kind of control, libertarians would push this country off a cliff into a mess of chaos and anarchy.

The Republican and Democratic parties are both broken right now, but the principles upon which they were both founded are sound. When a toilet is plugged up with shit, you don't look for a new toilet, you plunge the toilet and get back to business. We (the voters) need to plunge Washington and get people installed there who are more interested in governing than in getting paid by lobbyists or getting blowjobs in airport toilets. Too bad that won't happen until the country goes bankrupt and our debt holders force some economic medicine on us, just as is happening to Ireland right now. That will be a humbling moment for America (just as it was for Russia) and it's inevitable unless some serious changes are made.
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:29 AM   #26
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Just don't vote for the party that wants to redistribute income and wealth from the producers of society to the moochers.
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Just don't vote for the party that wants to redistribute income and wealth from the producers of society to the moochers.

I like this post the very best of allll the choices.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:22 PM   #28
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Just don't vote for the party that wants to redistribute income and wealth from the producers of society to the moochers.
Well one of the two parties has engaged in the past 29 years in an unprecedented upward redistribution of wealth (primarily through the tax code) and nobody seems to mind. There is more wealth concentrated in the top 1% of high wealth household in the U.S. than at any time since 1928. I gather from what you type that you're regularly voting for them. Or is it only the top 1% (those making over $235,000 a year) that are "the producers" to whom you refer.
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Old 12-03-2010, 07:45 PM   #29
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This week demonstrated that the Republicans are unwilling to approve an extension supporting the unemployed who are actively looking for jobs 'until we understand how it would be paid for', and yet they staunchly defend tax break extensions for those making more than $250,000 per year even though we KNOW that we can't afford it and it will result in BILLIONS more debt.

That is just wrong. These people are sick in the head.



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Old 12-04-2010, 03:22 AM   #30
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The class warfare routine is so out of vogue. We don't have a tax problem. We have a spending problem. We have a government that grows relentlessly like a cancer no matter which party is in charge. We have a government that wants to regulate the dust on our farms, the light bulbs we use, a government that wants to tell ISPs how to allocate their bandwidth that they paid for, a government that wants to control how and when we see doctors, a government that wants to force people to commit to private insurance contracts and then dictate the terms of those contracts. The USA is courting socialism while red China is courting capitalism. Like weeds in a garden it is slowly choking our productivity, sapping the life out of our economy, killing ambition, creating an entitlement mentality, and making it more difficult for people to become rich through a lifetime of hard work. Capitalism creates wealth; government just destroys it.

I will now step off my soapbox.
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