11-22-1963

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by Wakeup

I wasn't alive for that, but I was alive for Reagan getting shot...my reaction was a little different than crying and mourning though as I recall...

"You gotta rob to get rich in the Reagan era." - Nino Brown (Wesley Snipes, New Jack City)

Now that one....I do remember...as much for the reactions of my father as anything. He had just retired so he was home when I got in from school with the TV on...which was unusual for him as he never watched it much during the day. We watched it all afternoon as he talked about what it was like in the country when Kennedy was shot. He talked about the attempt on Truman's life at Blair House in 1950. He was there that day & the White House policeman who was killed in that attack was his friend. Interesting stuff that I doubt it ever would have occurred to me to ask him about otherwise.

I also remember the ABC anchor screaming at somebody off camera for handing him an inaccurate report that Reagan was dead. And Al Haig, of course...

What a bizarre day...

[Raphael]

Well, I don't remember where I was when John Kennedy was shot. But I remember where I was when John-John Kennedy was caught crawling under his daddy's desk; I was crawling under my daddy's desk. John Jr and I we had something in common.

John Kennedy was not effective legislatively but he created the image of an America that was young and dynamic, the can-do-no-wrong, winning America of Michael de Bakey and of James Dean and of Neil Armstrong and of Athletes who'd win all the Gold at the Olympics.

[Don T. Lukbak]

That was the day I separated from active duty. Most of that day I worried over whether they'd recall my ass. At the time I thought Lyndon Johnson was behind it, and figured he'd get the country into ass-deep kim-chee.

[bbkid]

I remember that moment just like it was yesterday. I was in 9th grade, in PE class, and Coach sat us all down and told us the news.

Such a sad day/era.

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

My mom was 13. She said they turned on the radio in her classroom and her teacher fainted when they announced he was dead.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Don T. Lukbak

That was the day I separated from active duty.

Then you knew "we" were in S.E. Asia when Kennedy took office ....

[Don T. Lukbak]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Then you knew "we" were in S.E. Asia when Kennedy took office ....

Ike was President when I got yanked off that bus and onto them footprints at Parris Island and I had never even heard of no Viet Nam. Indochina, yeah; Dien Bien Phu, yeah...but I was a clueless little rube mostly covered up in ignorance...

Later, one of the Gunnies who survived the Frozen Chosin in Nov-Dec 1950 told me that the brokedown Marines who had fought their way out ...their 1 Marine Division vs a Friggin' Commie Chinese PLA Army Group, not army, Army Group ... regrouped just after they cleared the final squeezed up pass before reaching a zone of relative safety, got their gyrene asses in formation, and marched in cadence back to the little town singing this little song that included something along the lines of "kicking commie ass in Saigon."

I never got shot at except by this civilian before I ever enlisted. The closest I came to action was in October, 1962....so-called Cuban Missile Crisis...I was just a stinking Lance Cpl but it appeared to me we were a cunthair away from going to Cuba. My whole reason for joining was to kill commies, so I was very happy. Told y'all I was ignorant.

1950!

[Smoke2nd]

One thing not often reported about JFK that feed the conspiracies whether theory or fact, is:

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

This, IMO must have played a role in his demise. Is it any wonder after the trillions of dollars going to banks from the bailouts who the REAL powers are in the world?

[TexasGator]

Originally Posted by bbkid

I remember that moment just like it was yesterday. I was in 9th grade, in PE class, and Coach sat us all down and told us the news.

Such a sad day/era.

9th grade? Damn you're old.


How can you call yourself bbkid? Is that like 350 lb guys named Tiny? Or bald guys named Curly? WTF?

Oh well, take solace in knowing you're not as old as BigTex. That sumbitch was in 9th grade when President McKinley was shot!


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IF I were old enough to remember that infamous day, I would have been playing in the front yard when a friend rode up on his bicycle and said "The President's been shot." Of course, I'm not that old so that didn't happen - just sayin'

[Jackie S]

Frank Sinatra made no secret about how much Joe Dimagio hated JFK, because of a personal insult in hitting on Marilyn Momroe while in Joe's presence. This of course lead to JFK's affair with Her, which added to the insult.

The Mafia loved Joe Dimagio. JFK was also screwing a Mafia Kingpins girlfriend, one Judith Extner, a beautiful brunette. This inflamed the Kingpin, who already harbored ill feelings because the Kennedys double crossed the Mafia after the election. The Mafia brought out the dead people to carry Chicago, which swung Il to Kennedy, thus giving him the electoral victory. The Kennedys then double crossed the Mafia by appointing RFK as AG, who then proceeded to go after Organized Crime.

Old Joe Kennedy then added futher insult by making it plain that the new President would have to stop associating with who he called a "saloon singer," Frank Sinatra. According to Peter Lawford, this absolutly inflamed Frank Sinatra.

In the mean time, Fidel Castro had a personal beef as well, since JFK tried to have him killed. The Mafia, through old Havana ties, linked up with Casto, and decided that this man needed to go. So, as a favor to Joe Dimagio, and Castro, they found a little ingrate, got him a Rifle, and placed him in the infamous Book Depository with a clear shot. They then had Jack Ruby get rid of Oswald. But that's another story.

So in the end, JFK was assissinated not only because he double crossed people who helped him, but because of personal insults to a Mafia Kingpin, Fidel Castro, and of course, two of their Heros, Joe Dimagio and Frank Sinatra.

In the God Father, it was never personal, it was always business. In this case, it just might have been personal,

People have been killed for less.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

... because the Kennedys double crossed the Mafia after the election. The Mafia brought out the dead people to carry Chicago, which swung Il to Kennedy, thus giving him the electoral victory. The Kennedys then double crossed the Mafia by appointing RFK as AG, who then proceeded to go after Organized Crime.

The Mafia, through old Havana ties, linked up with Casto, and decided that this man needed to go.

So in the end, JFK was assissinated ...

The relationship between "mafia" and the intelligence "community" grew out of the Sicilian connections who "snuck" spies into Europe through Italy, while at the same time the dock workers in the US (controlled by the mafia) kept an eye on who came and went in and out of the U.S. from "overseas." ... during WWII.

The Kennedy brothers also dismissed the intelligence "community" and minimized their influence in decision making ... publicly ...

.. that is not a good combination to have pissed at you.

Here's a "loop" ... Nixon learned of the "relationships" through his "associations" in Flroida and those "operatives" who were "unable" to enter and leave an office building without being detected (who had lawyers ready the next morning when they were arrested) opened the door to have him taken down and discredited.

There is more than one way to assassinate someone.

DTL ... "we" had about 8500 working SE Asia by the time Ike left ... and do not feel left out ... JFK wasn't told either until AFTER he was sworn. Cambodia and Laos were regular excursions and targeted.

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by TexasGator

Oh well, take solace in knowing you're not as old as BigTex. That sumbitch was in 9th grade when President McKinley was shot!

Rumors! Rumors, Rumors!!!

Not True!

It is time for me to set the record straight once and for all fer you yung whipper-snappers! FDR was in the final year of his 3rd term as President when I first entered the 9th Grade.


Harry Truman was in the final year of his 1st term in office before I finally completed all of my 9th grade classes!

And young feller: From this point forward, it is Mr. Sumbitch to you!

[Gator42]

The thing I remember about that day was wondering why my Mother and Grandmother were crying while they watched TV.
My Mom told me what had happened but I was 3 so it really didn't register with me.
Looking back it was a sad event ,one that should never happen to any US President.
I am not a fan of JFK (politically) but I regret that his life was cut short.

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

you remember when you were three?

[Gator42]

Originally Posted by luxury daphne

you remember when you were three?

Not everything but I do remember that day.