Personal Request

[Likinikki]

I see her request as more of a courtesy than anything else. Like she stated...everyone has their own idea of screening and giving a vouch.

I appreciate when a hobbyist sends a pm asking me to vouch for him...but, it's not one of my requirements. However, if a hobbyist is someone who I haven't seen in a year or more...I will always let the provider know...even if he's been a regular of mine prior to that.

I think her post was respectful...I don't see it as being "complaining." Her subject is helpful...as many of my clients have asked me the same thing.

One thing I will add...I use P411, however, I still contact providers on a profile to verify the client. I don't think anyone should just "assume" all is good simply because there's an "OK" given.

And...JSmith...at least you're a non-discriminating offender! I don't think you have to apologize for being offensive...if you don't want to!

[Rider-Tom]

Brit is spot on. Its only polite for us guys to keep in touch with the ladies that we ask to vouch for us so therefore a heads up and Oh BTW how are you? Would be like the good Southern Gentlemen that we are.

[GinaXXX]

Obviously, I think this is an EXCELLENT post!

Brittany has explained why a system like P411 makes checking references a lot easier for the ladies, and speeds up the screening process for the gents.

And for the guys who STILL think you will have to give up a whole bunch of private information to get an account, please know that with two solid provider references you need not give up any private info.... and you get a free 6 month trial (no strings) to boot.

Always,
Gina

www.preferred411.com

[atxdream]

Providers have tried and failed often to get a "common list" going. We HAVE a list, it's called p411 as stated in previous posts in this thread. Every provider has their own rules for screening and perhaps we should communicate better; however, p411 eliminates this process and pretty much makes it a uniform screening process. As Gina stated, it's not invasive as people think. When guys are concerned about privacy issues, I encourage them to ask questions. I have not had a single person come back to me to say they still think it's too invasive. This isn't an advertisement for p411, but simply a "vouch" that it works and is appreciated by most providers.

One bit of advice with p411 is to update your okays when you see a client again. This helps show they are current in the hobby even if they only play with the same few providers. Providers that want extra security can contact other providers that gave an okay.

I always give feedback to hobbyists on whether or not the provider got back to me with a reference. Feedback helps them understand who to use to cut down on the screening time.

[onehitwonder]

The women participating on this thread have much more patience than I ...........I'd handed him his head on the 2nd post, and never looked back. You girls are Class acts....no doubt. I was going to suggest that someone invite Ms Gina to the party but I see she has already graced us with her presence. She is yet another example of class and style and an outstanding business woman. IMO.........

Respectfully,
1hit/Cheri

[Mokoa]

Originally Posted by JSmith2010

You just always have something to complain about don't you? Whenever I read your posts I always think to myself, there are a hundred other providers that go through the exact same shit as her, why is she the one always complaining?

It is a legitimate topic.

If you do not like the thread, then do not read it. Go on to another thread. No one is forcing you to read threads that you do not like.

Take the drama elsewhere. It is not welcome here.

[gooose]

Hey, I agree. If you saw me, then yes, I can assume that you are going to use me as a reference. What I'M suggesting is that if a gentleman doesn't want to use p-411, that he emails the lady prior to using her as a vouch. 3 months from now, she might need a little help remembering the session. When a man emails her, his email history pops up. She thinks, "Oh yeah, I remember him. He brought me a bottle of wine. I asked him to stay a little longer. I had a nice time with him. I'd love to give him a vouch."

Its not so much about asking the lady for permission, as it is doing her a favor by helping her remember.

Will do from now on. Its been far too long Brittany...must remind self to make an appt with you.

Take the drama elsewhere. It is not welcome here.

Agreed. Take the drama to the Austin Forum. Its apparently welcomed there.

[spaceman181]

Yeah, JSmith, on some occasions I have agreed with you, but not this time. Brittany drops some really relevant and thought provoking posts in here from time to time and it reminds of what this forum is supposed to be about. If its not for you, feel free to "chime out". There are those, who shall remain nameless here (but everybody knows who I'm talking about), that needlessly inflame these topics. Brit isn't one of them.

Brittany, when are we gonna meet?

[Guest031811]

Originally Posted by spaceman181

Brittany, when are we gonna meet?

When you ask me on a date

[Kourtney_Kupps]

Thank you Brittany, I have been wanting to post this for a while, my way was just really straight forward and I was concerned I would ruffle some feathers.

Its so typical of a male to automatically accuse you of complaining, instead of actually reading and realize you are trying to address frustration and helping guys by explaining dos and donts of how to book an appt the quickest.

I want to see clients as much as you want to see me!
It gets frustrating when any of the booking process turns into a million phone calls or mails. For me the back and forth takes a little away from being excited to meet you.

The more information gent gives in his request makes things simple!
Leave a message include YOUR NAME! I get messages all the time and guy doesnt even tell who to call back. If name, handle, time or times is better, date, references, call back instructions are in the message....When I call back its to confirm your appt and we are off to having some fun!

I'm not a secretaty, I dont wanna make a bunch of calls/mails.
I wanna dress up like a secretary and be naughty as quick as possible!!

Its interesting to me...would you call a dr office or any other business to make an appt and not leave your name, number, ect!!

Knowledge is power!! ♥ Kourtney

[anita]

Originally Posted by brittanylennox

Gentlemen,
I love spending time with you! This is a hobby, so it’s supposed to be FUN! I realize that each lady is unique, and we all run things slightly different. I cannot make this request for all providers, but I think some would agree with me. Can you PLEASE give the lady you plan on using a “heads up” prior to using her as a reference? Or perhaps, you could provide details that will “jog” her memory. What's even better? Consider a p-411 membership.

In this world, we survive on vouches. Vouches can make or break an appointment. I know that the hobby is different for every gentleman. Some men hobby once a week; others hobby once a year. Either way, a vouch is a vouch. However, I find that scheduling an appointment is much less of a headache for everyone when the gentleman has notified his reference ahead of time, has provided significant “memory jogger” information, or uses a p-411 request.

I realized that some men are opposed to automated screening like preferred-411 or date-check. However, I swear by these websites. They are your friends. Even more so, they are my friends. My only analogy for this is the “ez-pass”. In the northeast, they have turnpikes. While there is much debate over whether the 50 cents you pay to drive 30 miles is actually worth it, you still have to pay the toll to drive on the road. You have the option of paying in cash or having an electronic system (ezpass) posted in your vehicle that keeps track of the fees you owe. The people who want to pay in cash have to wait patiently in line for the toll road attendant to figure out how much each vehicle owes. Imagine rush hour and there are 3,000 other people waiting to pay the attendant. Now, imagine the EZ pass lane. The EZ pass in your vehicle gets scanned as you drive by. No slowing down or stopping necessary. No ridiculously long periods of time waiting for the shithead in front of you to count out 3 dollars and 25 cents in pennies.

The hobby is similar. You can be in the “cash only line”:
Mr. Hobby: I’d like to schedule a date
Me: Great! When
Mr. Hobby: Today at 1.
Me: Fantastic . Do you have a vouch?
Mr. Hobby: yes. Her name is Sara.
Me: Great! Which Sara? There are 50 of them on Eccie.
Mr. Hobby: Oh. She isn’t on Eccie. I found her on backpage.
Me: Sir, can you please send me her website so I can validate that she is a reviewed escort.
Mr. Hobby: I think I have her phone number somewhere. Her full name is Sara Sue.

Me: Did you see Mr. Hobby?
Sara Sue: Maybe? What does he look like?
Me: I donno.
Sara Sue: Well, how long ago did I see him?
Me: I donno
Sara Sue: Did he tell you which city I saw him in?
Me: Uh, no?

Me: Sir, can you please provide a description of yourself or some other identifying information such as the approximate date and location of your date with Sara.
Mr. Hobby: Why? Does she not remember me?
Me: Sir, please do not be offended. We ladies try not to keep detailed records in order to preserve your anonymity.
Mr. Hobby: Tell her that I was the guy in Miami with the big dick.

Me: He said that you met in Miami and that he has a large penis.
Sara Sue: Which time in Miami? Was he the white guy? How old was he? Did he say which hotel?

Me: (Slaps hand to forehead) [Thinks: Christ almighty! This is impossible.] Sir, I regret to inform you that I am unable to schedule an appointment with you at this time. Sorry for the inconvenience.



Do you see my point? With p-411, I get a single notification with the date, time, location, and duration of the desired session. I see that the gentleman has 2 okays. Perfect. Done deal. Ez-pass scanned.



Try not to flame me for this post. I am at home under the weather. I will probably read this tomorrow and think, “Gee… I should get more sleep before posting…”

I agree. The more details is given the faster the screening will be. Also to let the provider know she will be used as a reference makes it way easier.