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09-19-2012, 08:58 PM
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you guys are really acting dumb tonight but somethings been happening around here lately.....LOL
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09-19-2012, 09:00 PM
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or I guess just go see lexyexclusively
I mean that is the purpose of this fake thrAD ? correct.?...........to highlight how smart she is?
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Nope, I don't need to make up some tragic story to prove my obvious intelligence. I'm honestly flattered that you think I could. I know I'm wonderful with words and all, with that being said, if I could make up stories like that I would be on Oprah selling my books not here selling my charm. I enjoy being a smart ass and joking around on here. Boards are my source of entertainment opposed to celebs and facebook. I get a kick out of posting, messing around with people,flirting, and so on for shits and giggles. Unfortunately there is a serious side to the hobby and it should be discussed as well.
I (like most Gents I assume) honestly thought that being on a form of birth control was a no brainer and part of the job description for providers. I brought this topic up because it shocked me that there was someone out there that wasn't taking precautions. I am also in total disbelief that this girl chose not to take care of the problem at hand like (what I believe as well as other providers I talked with) a professional. I feel that this girl is a dangerous loaded gun and that she has no right working in this industry. I spoke with other vouched/verified Ladies on a few boards, they were in shock and reacted in the same fashion as I.
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09-19-2012, 09:01 PM
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Then I guess it is a good thing you retired, since I think this gentleman's reaction was nothing out of the ordinary.
No one ever said you could not post here, I was just curious is all as to why. What do mods deleting posts have to do with anything?
Not at all. Quite the contrary. I don't know what you were reading. I agreed that perhaps alert was too strong of a word to use, but the sentiment behind the argument for a warning/heads up still stands.
Nope, no money down, but it did make you reply as I expected!
You are making this sound like he is having sex with a girlfriend or wife and a mistake happened. This is called PAY 4 PLAY. Why in the world should he be held responsible because the provider is unwilling to have a backup form of birth control? That is clearly HER choice, not his.
No problems there...... then shouldn't the provider ALSO take responsibility as in secondary birth control? This is a 2 way street. You can't have your argument both ways!
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-If my posting after retirement was inappropriate then I was curious as to why the mods had not deleted my posts since obviously they would be out of place.
-I never said it wasn't pay 4 play or tried to akin this to an actual relationship involving feelings but as I mentioned in an earlier post: family law attorneys who file petitions for child support; judges who rule on such orders of support; and police officers who arrest dead beat dads (yes moms can be deadbeats too but for the sake of this debate we're talking about dads) who refuse to pay such orders don't particular care if you met your child's mother on match.com or backpage.
-Yes, I completely agree that the provider should take responsibility for birth control as should the client as. That was my point: that the client should take just as much responsibility as the provider. It wasn't an argument. It was you not understanding my sarcasm that I would think every man should get himself sterilized before a session.
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09-19-2012, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexxxy
Nope, I don't need to make up some tragic story to prove my obvious intelligence. I'm honestly flattered that you think I could. I know I'm wonderful with words and all, with that being said, if I could make up stories like that I would be on Oprah selling my books not here selling my charm.
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you cant sell anything to me but again no need to feel you have to explain your reasons for the fake thrAD
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09-19-2012, 09:10 PM
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This is not about the child, it is about a provider not taking the proper precautions. I am just saying that letting the gentlemen/customer know about her ahead of time. Then let them chose if they want to see her knowing full well what to possibly expect.
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In her opinion she was taking proper precautions by using a condom. It's your opinion that she wasn't. If the client was so concerned about her being on a backup form of birth control then why didn't he ask before he had sex with her? It's not as if she lied to him about being on something; she was honest about not being on something when he asked-after the fact of course.
I just don't think it's entirely fair to single out this girl when there might be plenty of other providers who are in the same position: not using any type of backup birth control. I think that instead of an alert/thread/heads up about her that clients who are concerened about this should simply ask the provider they want to see about her birth control habits.
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09-19-2012, 09:20 PM
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Here is an even worse nightmare scenario: woman hires male prostitute, gets pregnant by him and he is legally responsible for child support. As they used to say in law school: "Tough cases make bad law".
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09-19-2012, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JONBALLS
you cant sell anything to me but again no need to feel you have to explain your reasons for the fake thrAD
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*Yawns* Once again, I am flattered that you are giving me credit for being such an artful mastermind. I just got board poking you with a stick, move along dancing monkey.
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09-19-2012, 09:39 PM
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*Yawns* Once again, I am flattered that you are giving me credit for being such an artful mastermind. I just got board poking you with a stick, move along dancing monkey.
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never said it was any of that, just fake ..I know better, anyone could bounce off a prego thrAD
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eerrrrr **giggles** a couple hours ago I thought to be done and now I have my second wind
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09-20-2012, 04:56 AM
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-Yes, I completely agree that the provider should take responsibility for birth control as should the client as. That was my point: that the client should take just as much responsibility as the provider. It wasn't an argument. It was you not understanding my sarcasm that I would think every man should get himself sterilized before a session.
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So this is the only point we disagree on then. Hopefully everyone by now realizes this is the point in question. The child and who takes care of it is another debate.
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In her opinion she was taking proper precautions by using a condom. It's your opinion that she wasn't.
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She wasn't the one wearing the condom, HE WAS. SO HE was the ONLY one taking precautions.
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If the client was so concerned about her being on a backup form of birth control then why didn't he ask before he had sex with her? It's not as if she lied to him about being on something; she was honest about not being on something when he asked-after the fact of course.
I just don't think it's entirely fair to single out this girl when there might be plenty of other providers who are in the same position: not using any type of backup birth control. I think that instead of an alert/thread/heads up about her that clients who are concerened about this should simply ask the provider they want to see about her birth control habits.
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I guess from now on I am going to have to ask. It was one of those things I always ASSUMED was being taken care of. I can see now I was far to naive.
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09-20-2012, 06:32 AM
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The fellas around here can often outshine the paid entertainers...nice goin homies!
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09-20-2012, 06:33 AM
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Then I guess it is a good thing you retired, since I think this gentleman's reaction was nothing out of the ordinary.
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Not out of the ordinary for you. So in that regard, you're correct.
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No one ever said you could not post here, I was just curious is all as to why.
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Oh please. I guess that's why every time you bring up someone's legitimacy to post here, it's always in the midst of a disagreement.
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Perhaps sperm donors should start worrying about women tracking them down for child support?
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good analogy!
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Well, i suppose it would be a good analogy if there are no disclaimers or contracts signed that address this issue. So i'm guessing it's not.
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This is not about the child, it is about a provider not taking the proper precautions. I am just saying that letting the gentlemen/customer know about her ahead of time. Then let them chose if they want to see her knowing full well what to possibly expect.
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Heather is right in her point about singling out this one girl. This sort of topic is important, and it's probably a good thing that it came up. Nevertheless, it's also the sort of topic that could/should probably fall under a more general discussion like the ones about having hobby phones. Just another aspect we need to take into account when discussing the importance of "being careful out there".
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I guess from now on I am going to have to ask. It was one of those things I always ASSUMED was being taken care of. I can see now I was far to naive.
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I'm sympathetic to the argument that the customer who is doing the paying should be able to expect the "business person" to take care of all the business ends of the deal (including accounting for birth control). But like JB says, these are oftentimes girls we are dealing with, not seasoned business people.
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09-20-2012, 07:04 AM
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I'm staying outta this one!!!! I'm easy I paid $10 co pay for my permanet fixing!! Go OLD DR. STop!!!
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09-20-2012, 07:13 AM
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Well, i suppose it would be a good analogy if there are no disclaimers or contracts signed that address this issue. So i'm guessing it's not.
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I would argue that there is an aural contract, an understanding or a reasonable expectation, if you will, that the result of any pregnancy is the responsibility of the woman. Why would the supposed contract of a sperm donor have any more force of law than the above agreement?
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09-20-2012, 09:09 AM
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After DNA testing proves paternity, i'd love to see a guy try to weasel out of paying support by using the argument that he paid her for the sex.
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09-20-2012, 09:48 AM
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well Doove the fine could be cheaper errr would be cheaper at risk of doing time also.
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