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09-04-2012, 07:54 AM
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I didn't catch your hidden meaning WTF. Are you saying you want to be raped??? I'll send a message to CJ and that should take care of your problem.
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What ? I'm not Middle Eastern enough for you? My Irish heritage
must have given it away!
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Do you really think that Social Security is in surplus??? I mean really? In 1967, Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled Senate and House merged the surplus with the general fund to hide the full cost of the Vietnam war. There is no surplus and there has been no surplus for 45 years. I guess you drank the Gore Kool Aid and never got over it.
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I have posted that fact way befor you. Several time on aspd in fact. Many times on here He merged it because SS is in surplus you moron. Do you not understand accounting?
There has been a huge Surplus in SS payments. The military took the surplus and spent it.
That is the question I would ask the country if I were team Obama.
Are you ok with the military spending your retirement savings on wars we have did not borrow for? Wars that we borrowed from your SS savings and Medicare savings (that is going broke btw)
http://www.socialsecurity.org/pubs/ssps/ssp26.pdf
But history has shown
that Social Security surpluses have, if anything,
led to more spending, not saving. As demonstrated
by Kent Smetters, a leading economist
and Treasury Department official, surpluses in
the Social Security accounts have enabled the
non–Social Security side of the budget to spend
more and run larger deficits than otherwise
would be the case. 4 Moreover, even if politicians
were able to resist the siren song of a
Social Security surplus and simply allow such a
surplus to reduce the overall deficit, the effect
on saving and economic growth would be
uncertain. And beyond that there is no way to
guarantee that any fruits of economic growth
reductions or both in the publicly held debt
would be turned over to Social Security by
future legislators. (See below for further discussion
of this point.)
In sum, Social Security surpluses that accumulate
as reserves in the trust fund do not build
real assets that can be counted on to fund future
shortfalls, either directly or indirectly. The surpluses,
however, are a source of current revenue
for the government to use for whatever purpose
seems most pressing at the time. It would be difficult
if not impossible to determine whether the
use made by the government of the surpluses has
made it easier or harder to pay the benefits of
future beneficiaries.
Why then does the Social Security program
have a trust fund? It was established by the
1939 amendments and, as John Cogan, an
economist with the Hoover Institution and a
member of the President’s Commission to
Strengthen Social Security, put it, it was “a
labeling device designed to provide political
protection against the charge that the funds
were being misspent.” 5 It is a misleading label,
however, and gives workers the false sense of
contributing to an account held for them in a
fund. When in fact there is only a record of how
much the government has borrowed from
future recipients. The trust fund may help back
up a promise that funds will be raised to pay
benefits in the future when deficits occur. But
depending on conditions of the day, keeping
that promise may not be possible.
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09-04-2012, 07:59 AM
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09-04-2012, 08:08 AM
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[QUOTE=CuteOldGuy;3147802]Better off? Click the links to find out.
http://jenkuznicki.com/2012/09/better-off-now/[/QUOTE]
I do not need to click a link to know that I am ten times better off today than I was in 2008.
The country is trending better today than it was in 2008 for sure.
There are some folks that are not better off , my prayers are with them.
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09-04-2012, 08:15 AM
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Was that because of, or in spite of, Obama?
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09-04-2012, 08:20 AM
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"Trending better".......................
Great campaign slogan for Obama.............
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09-04-2012, 08:28 AM
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"Trending better".......................
Great campaign slogan for Obama.............
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Are you better off Whirly?
Or have we cut funding for retards?
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09-04-2012, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF
Are you better off Whirly?
Or have we cut funding for retards?
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you are gonna get tossed outa the PC, liberal, diversity officer, quota world on two counts....
typing a sentence that even mentions cutting spending in any context whatsoever
and retard? come on now
i think you have severe flaws in your liberaldomness
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09-04-2012, 08:36 AM
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Poor Whirly, they musta cut funding to his rubber room.
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you are gonna get tossed outa the PC, liberal, diversity officer, quota world on two counts....
typing a sentence that even mentions cutting spending in any context whatsoever
and retard? come on now
i think you have severe flaws in your liberaldomness
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More than several!
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09-04-2012, 08:40 AM
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Keep pimping for Obama WTF;
"Trending Better".............your too fucking funny.
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09-04-2012, 09:46 AM
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Keep pimping for Obama WTF;
"Trending Better".............your too fucking funny.
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I see Whirly, Obama must have cut your retard funding.
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09-04-2012, 02:08 PM
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It's funny how even Axlerod doesn't see it the way you do, TTH.
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- When asked on Sunday talk shows if Americans are better off today than they were four years ago, senior advisers to President Barack Obama didn't say yes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D200340
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09-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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Romney and Ryan are both much better off than they were in 08
and theyre stupid enough to ask the public that question ?
that'll go over like a turd in a punch bowl to the middle class
snick
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09-04-2012, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ7
Romney and Ryan are both much better off than they were in 08
and theyre stupid enough to ask the public that question ?
that'll go over like a turd in a punch bowl to the middle class
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Read the article, CBJ7. It was ABC and Fox News that asked the question, and neither David Axelrod nor David Plouffe could muster a "yes".
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09-04-2012, 02:56 PM
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Read the article, CBJ7. It was ABC and Fox News that asked the question, and neither David Axelrod nor David Plouffe could muster a "yes".
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read it
now lets ask Romney and Ryan ... youre good with that arent you?
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09-04-2012, 03:01 PM
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Again, with the class warfare CJ; why don't you Dumbocrats drop it.....it ain't working.....
Recent Poll Results:
Are you better off?
51% No
31% Yes
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