P411 "okay" criteria?

[the_chewtoy]

Seriously...are you really attempting to use a lady you rated as 'maybe' as a reference??? And you have the temerity to be upset about it (at least enough for a thread)? An okay is essentially a referral/recommendation on the providers' part. If they don't have discretion to say no, what good is the okay? Reference that other thread where I think it was Kaylee who was super uncomfortable and wanted to withdraw an okay.

Go see another provider. Have fun. Ask HER for an okay. If more providers were stingy with their yesses we would probably have fewer of the dickheads short-changing providers, being rude, mean, threatening newbies with false bad reviews, etc. Weed out the dicks and you have happier, less angry/suspicious providers! We all benefit!

I find it sad that most of the ladies I've met say im far and away one of the nicest guys they've met. If I'm making the standard...guys, we fail! Badly!

You didnt get an okay. If you're trying to force one...you are proving you didn't deserve it. Go see someone you click with and enjoy your resulting yes, my friend.

[Kayleehotchick]

Well, maybe she DIDN'T think you were "okay" and that is why she is NOT giving you one. Maybe YOU THOUGHT you were nice and it was a decent session and maybe SHE DIDN'T. There has been times, I've seen a guy who was a total jerk and I didn't give him okay. He didn't hurt me, he didn't rip me off or stand me up. But that is NOT GROUNDS of a "okay" in my book.

I feel like you are pressuring this chick to give you a "okay" when she doesn't want to.

The day that "okay" are pressured out of providers (which I KNOW GINA WILL NOT DO) is the day I'm leaving the hobby.

[Copierguy0]

Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick

Well, maybe she DIDN'T think you were "okay" and that is why she is NOT giving you one. Maybe YOU THOUGHT you were nice and it was a decent session and maybe SHE DIDN'T. There has been times, I've seen a guy who was a total jerk and I didn't give him okay. He didn't hurt me, he didn't rip me off or stand me up. But that is NOT GROUNDS of a "okay" in my book.

I feel like you are pressuring this chick to give you a "okay" when she doesn't want to.

The day that "okay" are pressured out of providers (which I KNOW GINA WILL NOT DO) is the day I'm leaving the hobby.

Exactlly Kayleehotchick, I would rather EARN my OK then create a thread that might pressure her into doing something that she don't want to do. Just like the saying in gambling: Money won is twice as sweet as money earned. Well, if you conduct business the right way and you are a gentleman, you should have no problem getting your OK. I can confirm that I have NEVER had a problem from any provider that i seen, to get an OK. 99.9 % of all providers with a P411 account are very good at giving you, you're OK if you are in fact OK. some providers take longer than others and some might forget but once you remind them, it is usually never a problem. An OK Earned and Given is twice as sweet as an OK that you have to BEG or pressure her for. If i had to go through all this to get an OK, I would not even want it. MOVE ON DUDE.

Besides that, an OK is just part of it, lets say you are successful in pressuring this lady to give you an OK. The next lady you see, will see that OK, and call her for a Reference. What kind of Reference do you think you will get? and besides all that, by creating this thread, you just alerted all the providers that reads this, that MAYBE your NOT ok. domino effect snowballing down a dangerous hill.

Just MHO,
CG

[aka]

Just because I generally don't write reviews unless I feel compelled to extoll the virtues of a provider or unless I have explicitly promised a review does not mean that I wasn't an good visit.

On the other hand, IMO, any hobbyist is due an OK as long as he wasn't an asshole, regardless of whether his reco was yes, no, maybe or non-existent.

BTW, I haven't handed out any formal "No" report cards and yet I experience this pesky little problem that seems quite pervasive. Even from some of my regulars.

[happyndallas45]

Originally Posted by happyndallas45

I hope this is not the case. I much prefer the standard that Kaylee mentioned in an earlier thread, which is, and I paraphrase, "if I would see him again, then he's 'ok'". Just like hobbyists research and visit similar types of girls, why would this provider give one an "okay" if she, and you even said yourself, wouldn't want to see the other again, so other providers would see that you and she were "okay" together, and you end up having other "maybe" sessions. Makes no sense to me for either the hobbyists or providers for providers to be forced, under fear of suspension, to have to "okay" anybody they would rather not to for any reason.

What he said

[skydiver]

Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick

Well, maybe she DIDN'T think you were "okay" and that is why she is NOT giving you one. Maybe YOU THOUGHT you were nice and it was a decent session and maybe SHE DIDN'T. There has been times, I've seen a guy who was a total jerk and I didn't give him okay. He didn't hurt me, he didn't rip me off or stand me up. But that is NOT GROUNDS of a "okay" in my book.

I feel like you are pressuring this chick to give you a "okay" when she doesn't want to.

The day that "okay" are pressured out of providers (which I KNOW GINA WILL NOT DO) is the day I'm leaving the hobby.

Oh I completely agree with you. A guy shouldn't deserve an okay if he's rude, pushy, aggressive, etc. But my review is technically completely independent of how *I* as a client acted during an appointment. To me, an okay should be given if I was nice, cordial, was easy going, was on time, paid, etc. Just because it wasn't the greatest session I had shouldn't be grounds to withhold on the okay.

[The Motley Fool]

@OP.

Nothing wrong with your post, you had a legit question,, sadly you may never get the answer you seek. Having said that, I don't think you're trying to pressure her into giving you a "okay."

And ... for anyone else to assume otherwise is unfounded and counterintuitive.-

MF

[skydiver]

Originally Posted by The Motley Fool

@OP.

Nothing wrong with your post, you had a legit question,, sadly you may never get the answer you seek. Having said that, I don't think you're trying to pressure her into giving for a "okay."

And ... for anyone else to assume otherwise is unfounded and counterintuitive.-

MF

Exactly. The only correspondence we had since the appointment was my P411 okay request, and a text to her, she asked if I was skydiver on eccie and that was all the communication that was had. At any rate, I guess it's a lesson learned.

[Kayleehotchick]

Well....there is other porviders and other okays to be had. If she doesn't want to, that is her right.

I say, go find another hottie to put a smile on your face and earn a okay that way!!!

Happy Hobbying Mr Skydiver! xoxoxoxoxox