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Old 07-03-2012, 01:03 AM   #1
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Default America says let's move on!

Wouldn't you know it? Just when I was starting to embrace the idea of impeaching Chief Justice Roberts, America says let's put the health care debate behind us!

Damn, I wanted to know who Obama was going to nominate to take Roberts' place!

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Poll: Most Want Obamacare Opponents to Move On

By Chris Good | ABC OTUS News – 10 hrs ago


Now that the Supreme Court has upheld President Obama's health-reform law, a new poll suggests most people want the law's opponents to drop their repeal efforts and move on to other problems.



In the latest survey by the Kaiser Family Foundation, 56 percent of respondents said they prefer Obamacare opponents "stop their efforts to block the law and move on to other national problems," while 38 percent said they prefer those opponents "continue trying to block the law from being implemented."
Kaiser, a nonprofit, independent foundation that studies health policy and opinions, polled 1,239 adults beginning last Thursday, when the Supreme Court upheld Obama's health law under Congress's taxing power.
Predictably, responses broke down on partisan lines, but independents who do not lean toward either party also preferred Obamacare critics drop their repeal push by a margin of 51 percent to 35 percent. Respondents favored the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the law by a margin of 47 percent to 43 percent, Kaiser found.
Republicans, including presumptive presidential nominee Mitt Romney, have campaigned on a plan to repeal the law after November's election.
Get more pure politics at ABC News.com/Politics and a lighter take on the news at OTUSNews.com
While the health law remains unpopular, Kaiser found a bump in support for it after the Supreme Court's decision. In Kaiser's polling, the respondents were, 41 percent to 41 percent, on whether they support or oppose the law. That was an increase in support from May, when Kaiser found respondents opposed the law 44 percent to 37 percent.
A Reuters/Ipsos poll released today corroborated that bump, with opposition slipping from 57 percent to 52 percent and support increasing from 43 percent to 48 percent.
The health law saw a similar bump when it passed Congress in March 2010. The law was unpopular before Congress passed it and Obama signed it, but Gallup showed a brief moment in which poll respondents favored the law immediately after its victory. A week later, it was unpopular again.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:10 AM   #2
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Yes, lets definitely run the country by polls. I do believe that the majority of citizens were against the bill before, during, and after they voted on it. Where was your post then Big tit?
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Old 07-03-2012, 10:12 AM   #3
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If the polls are in your favor you will trumpet them.If they are against you they will be scorned..
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:02 PM   #4
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Yeah bigtex...lets move on....Everyone's already made up their mind on health care. Vote for BO to keep it. Vote for Romney to repeal it.

Ok..back to the shitty economy and high unemployment numbers....
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:15 PM   #5
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romney cant get enough dems on his side to re-peal the toilet paper stuck to his ass

but he wont mention how many it would take to erase Obamacare off the books does he?


kinda like he wont mention how his plan to save the economy adds around 25% to Obamas current debt numbers either

speaking of the economy

lets move on.
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Simple majority in both houses, since it is now a tax.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:36 PM   #7
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thought it has to be filibuster proof.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:47 PM   #8
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Simple majority in both houses, since it is now a tax.

the penalty is now a tax ... romney said repeal Obamacare, a LAW

that takes a 2/3rds vote accross the congressional board


we all know that will happen dont we
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:45 PM   #9
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Where the hell did you get THAT misinformation, CBJ7? It doesn't take 2/3 to repeal a law. Idiot.
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if congress comes up with an amendment and the prez vetoes it, what has to happen to override the veto
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President Romney won't veto it.
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ok fine, where will the 13 republican seats in the senate come from then?
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thought it has to be filibuster proof.
Obamatax is now considered to be a revenue bill, since the court has ruled that it's funded by a tax. That means it can be passed by reconciliation, which only requires 51 votes.

It's going to be sweet. Vote Obama out of office and then overturn his great legacy bill.

I can hardly wait.
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Obamatax is now considered to be a revenue bill, since the court has ruled that it's funded by a tax. That means it can be passed by reconciliation, which only requires 51 votes.

It's going to be sweet. Vote Obama out of office and then overturn his great legacy bill.

I can hardly wait.



Reconciliation matters because in today's sharply polarized political climate, most legislation can't clear the 100-member Senate without a filibuster-proof of majority of 60 votes. Right now, the Republicans control 47 Senate seats. While most political analysts believe the GOP has a decent shot at a net pickup of four seats this fall, almost nobody believes the Republicans can gain 13 seats
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I don't think reconciliation bills are subject to filibuster.
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