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Old 06-10-2012, 11:05 AM   #31
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Olivia you stumbled onto a truth. Repeating the same lie over and over again makes it the truth. Who said that originally?

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”--Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister


Oh, that's where I heard it.
Actually that is misattributed...

http://bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm

This is the one you right wingers love....


“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

santiz Hermann Goering quotes
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:51 AM   #32
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The public sector is shrinking because it has been overbloated (staffing and budgets) and public governments are saddled with employment/retirement commitments they can't afford, despite increased revenues coming into state and local coffers.


If they don't cut back, local governments will go broke. Does Californicaiton convice you? Probably not.
I won't argue one way or the other, but if that's what you believe, then let me ask you this.

Supposing Romney wins and the House stays Republican, do you honestly not think that he'll use the public sector to grow the economy to make himself look good?

If you really believe what you say, and you really care about it as you say, then what you should be hoping for is a divided Government.

But then, i think what you say you care about is, in reality, fleeting.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:57 PM   #33
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We need to dramatically cut federal spending. If you can't see that the federal government is too big and spends too much at this point, you're beyond hope. Europe's economy is disintegrating, as we speak, because of big spending socialists like you. Socialists are like junkies, with ruined lives, that won't stop using; their drug of choice is socialism instead of heroin, but the end result is just as devastating. At least the junkie is only killing himself; socialists destroy entire countries.
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:44 PM   #34
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We need to dramatically cut federal spending. If you can't see that the federal government is too big and spends too much at this point, you're beyond hope.
I'm willing to cut about $600B out of the federal budget....tomorrow. How about you?

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At least the junkie is only killing himself; socialists destroy entire countries.
Don't the Reaganites like to claim that it was military spending that brought down The USSR?
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:56 PM   #35
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I will see your $600B and raise you another $1 trillion.

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